2017 Draft Discussion Part 4: 3 Day Countdown!

MrMiyagi · Post #241 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:22 am

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King4Day · Post #242 » by **King4Day** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:28 am

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I wonder if Charlotte would make that deal to pair Walker with another scorer.

Mjee · Post #243 » by **Mjee** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:36 am

ray ray wrote:I think it's gonna be either Josh Jackson or Jayson Taytum with Fox being the dark house...

Hell yea!!!!

LukasBMW · Post #244 » by **LukasBMW** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:21 am

ray ray wrote:I think it's gonna be either Josh Jackson or Jayson Taytum with Fox being the dark house...

I'm hoping for Tatum.

kennydorglas · Post #245 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:50 am

sunsbum wrote:I have seen many games with JJ and his "bad handles" and that is an absolute smokebomb statement. I don't know why the Lakers are even posturing at this point.

yeah, JJ probably has better handles than most guards. You can call bull, unless he really tanked the workout.

sunsbum · Post #246 » by **sunsbum** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:07 am

So we pretty much know we are getting Tatum/jax/fox if McD really is drafting BPA. Isaac wouldn't be considered BPA above those guys at this point would he?

TOO · Post #247 » by **TOO** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:09 am

sunsbum wrote:So we pretty much know we are getting Tatum/jax/fox if McD really is drafting BPA. Isaac wouldn't be considered BPA above those guys at this point would he?

McD took dragan bender at 4 overall, so yeah, he could definitely view Isaac in the same BPA upside mold.

sunsbum · Post #248 » by **sunsbum** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:13 am

TOO wrote:
sunsbum wrote:So we pretty much know we are getting Tatum/jax/fox if McD really is drafting BPA. Isaac wouldn't be considered BPA above those guys at this point would he?

McD took dragan bender at 4 overall, so yeah, he could definitely view Isaac in the same BPA upside mold.

True. I guess he's the judge and jury when it comes down to it.

JayBenzy · Post #249 » by **JayBenzy** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:27 am

I'll pick Tatum any day over Isaac or even Josh Jackson.

GeraldsGreenery · Post #250 » by **GeraldsGreenery** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:34 am

JayBenzy wrote:I'll pick Tatum any day over Isaac or even Josh Jackson.

I really like Tatum, but it would be hard to pass on Jackson

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SlovenianDragon · Post #251 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:27 am

I feel like this video shows a lot more of Tatums explosiveness and also defense that people question:

Watch on YouTube

Also I'm so scared that the Celtics are going to take him at 3.....

Please let the suns get him!

Revived · Post #252 » by **Revived** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:22 am

It's so hard to tell what Tatum can bring to the table that Warren doesn't....I guess he's a slightly better 3pt shooter than Warren.

People are amazed by Tatum's scoring but it's important to remember that Warren was a big time scorer too before his head injury.

Warren and Tatum do the same thing...score and shoot well from mid range.

I like Jackson more than Tatum because Jackson can do things that Warren can't....like defend at a high level and shoot 3s.

I'd be shocked if Ainge passed on Jackson. I wish he would, if anything to throw a bone to McD for the IT trade.

TOO · Post #253 » by **TOO** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:34 am

They get their offense in completely different ways, Warren relies on others, Tatum can get his own. I'm not sure why people keep overlooking that when they make that comparison. The 2 couldn't be any different offensively.

Saberestar · Post #254 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:48 am

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SlovenianDragon · Post #255 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:52 am

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Who are Pick and Young?

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #256 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:52 am

One of the year's must-listen podcasts - Pelton on Dunc'd On: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246338/Duncd-On-David-Griffin-Out-in-CLE;-Projecting-the-2017-Draft-with-Kevin-Pelton

KP's big board:

1 Ball
2 Fultz
3 Isaac
4 DSJ
5 Jackson
6 Fox
7 Anunoby
8 Tatum
9 Z. Collins
10 Monk
11 Markkanen
12 Mitchell
13 Hart

Some notes:

- Nate Duncan and KP are on the same page of DSJ > Fox. Despite ranking Fox (and JJ and Tatum) much higher than his stats suggest, KP is very scared of Fox because of shooting concerns.
- I have yet to see any advanced stat metric that doesn't have Isaac near the top. One big plus KP has in Isaac's favor over Tatum and Jackson is the fact that he'll play the 4 in time; one big minus for Jackson is his age (1 year older than other freshmen). Also worth noting that Duncan in his previous podcast with his usual partner (Danny something?) had Isaac way ahead of Tatum and Jackson.

thamadkant · Post #257 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:35 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:
Saberestar wrote:

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Who are Pick and Young?

umm.. Pick(s) as in draft picks...

Young as in Young Players from their team.

Teams are calling Lakers to offer to absorb Deng or Mozgov but Lakers need to give pick(s) or Young players.

nevetsov · Post #258 » by **nevetsov** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:41 am

Given that we have a few decent options at #4, I'm confident that with McD's recent draft history, that we will end up with a +1 talent at the spot, whether it be Tatum/ Jackson/ Isaac/ Fox. We will end up with the best of the remaining bunch.

I just hope it's a true SF.

Son of Ra · Post #259 » by **Son of Ra** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:59 am

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If true then the Lakers are set on Ball, whew. I was worried he would slip.

JMac1 · Post #260 » by **JMac1** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:28 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:I feel like this video shows a lot more of Tatums explosiveness and also defense that people question:

Watch on YouTube

Also I'm so scared that the Celtics are going to take him at 3.....

Please let the suns get him!

So your consolation prize is Jackson. Whoever we get out of the three (Ball, Jackson, and Tatum) Mc'D will say that was our guy all along.