2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

mithrandir17 · Post #101 » by **mithrandir17** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:53 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:It's becoming more and more likely that the Kings pick will be the one going to Boston. Lopez is better short-term for the Lakers and if they get George this summer then they won't be a playoff team but they'll win in the upper 30's.

If they get PG, they will probably be in contention for the 8th spot of the playoffs

XtremeDunkz · Post #102 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:55 pm

cksdayoff wrote:HOLY SHTTT

We could have gotten DLo for cheap

uhh Mozgov would ruin our cap flexibility.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #103 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:57 pm

mithrandir17 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:It's becoming more and more likely that the Kings pick will be the one going to Boston. Lopez is better short-term for the Lakers and if they get George this summer then they won't be a playoff team but they'll win in the upper 30's.

If they get PG, they will probably be in contention for the 8th spot of the playoffs

That's what upper 30's wins is...

But they really won't have much depth, so they'll likely fall short. That's a tough conference.

kriss73 · Post #104 » by **kriss73** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:59 pm

..soooo the #2 pick in the 2015 draft traded before the #3 pick in the 2015 draft!

LOL , what a time to be alive!

nitocobola · Post #105 » by **nitocobola** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:00 pm

mithrandir17 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:It's becoming more and more likely that the Kings pick will be the one going to Boston. Lopez is better short-term for the Lakers and if they get George this summer then they won't be a playoff team but they'll win in the upper 30's.

If they get PG, they will probably be in contention for the 8th spot of the playoffs

I don't think so, unless lonzo has a star perfomance being a rookie.

Indiana was a borderline playoff team this year

PhilasFinest · Post #106 » by **PhilasFinest** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:00 pm

mithrandir17 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:It's becoming more and more likely that the Kings pick will be the one going to Boston. Lopez is better short-term for the Lakers and if they get George this summer then they won't be a playoff team but they'll win in the upper 30's.

If they get PG, they will probably be in contention for the 8th spot of the playoffs

Lopez could also be used as a large expiring to ship off in a deal with Indy to absorb some of PG's money and offer the Pacers cap relief....so he may not be a sure thing to stay in LA this year.

Unbreakable99 · Post #107 » by **Unbreakable99** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:22 pm

kriss73 wrote:..soooo the #2 pick in the 2015 draft traded before the #3 pick in the 2015 draft!

LOL , what a time to be alive!

He has much more trade value. When the Lakers put Russell on the block they got a first round pick back. When the Sixers put Okafor on the block there were no takers.

kriss73 · Post #108 » by **kriss73** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:25 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
kriss73 wrote:..soooo the #2 pick in the 2015 draft traded before the #3 pick in the 2015 draft!

LOL , what a time to be alive!

He has much more trade value. When the Lakers put Russell on the block they got a first round pick back. When the Sixers put Okafor on the block there were no takers.

I agree but it's funny: months and months to talk about an Okafor trade and the first player to leave his own franchise...is Russell.

Ericb5 · Post #109 » by **Ericb5** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:26 am

Negrodamus wrote:
smittybanton wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246361/Lakers-Trade-DAngelo-Russell-Timofey-Mozgov-To-Nets-For-Brook-Lopez-No-27

Wow. That's crazy. To be fair, Mozgov is on a ridiculous contract.

I wonder how their going to get George now.

They had to trade Russell just to undo a mistake of a contract signed last year. Lol

Not signing those kinds of contracts contributed to Hinkie getting fired by pissing off the agents, but he was obviously right not to do so.

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Negrodamus · Post #110 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:49 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
smittybanton wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246361/Lakers-Trade-DAngelo-Russell-Timofey-Mozgov-To-Nets-For-Brook-Lopez-No-27

Wow. That's crazy. To be fair, Mozgov is on a ridiculous contract.

I wonder how their going to get George now.

They had to trade Russell just to undo a mistake of a contract signed last year. Lol

Not signing those kinds of contracts contributed to Hinkie getting fired by pissing off the agents, but he was obviously right not to do so.

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It's sad how right you are. We are really in a fortunate position. I'm also glad we are doing an organic build and not trading the house for a Paul George.

BigSleep333 · Post #111 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:15 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
kriss73 wrote:..soooo the #2 pick in the 2015 draft traded before the #3 pick in the 2015 draft!

LOL , what a time to be alive!

He has much more trade value. When the Lakers put Russell on the block they got a first round pick back. When the Sixers put Okafor on the block there were no takers.

we dont know anything. the only conclusion we can make is, nobody offered BC what he wanted. that doesnt mean nobody would take a flyer on okafor. im sure there are teams out there who would..

76ciology · Post #112 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:03 pm

Boston looking more and more like on the short end of the deal. Specially after the draft when the hype will start for kings with their 5th&10th pick.

Lakers will be with George-BrookLopez-Ball-Ingram

Kings will be with Fox-McLemore-Hield-Skal-Collins

PhilasFinest · Post #113 » by **PhilasFinest** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:06 pm

BigSleep333 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
kriss73 wrote:..soooo the #2 pick in the 2015 draft traded before the #3 pick in the 2015 draft!

LOL , what a time to be alive!

He has much more trade value. When the Lakers put Russell on the block they got a first round pick back. When the Sixers put Okafor on the block there were no takers.

we dont know anything. the only conclusion we can make is, nobody offered BC what he wanted. that doesnt mean nobody would take a flyer on okafor. im sure there are teams out there who would..

Agreed. Im sure there are a few teams that would take Okafor on the cheap and see if they can make something out of him. BC likely has a specific value he'd want in return, if its not met, he's fine with keeping him on his rookie deal. Worst case, his deal ends and we let him walk.

Okafor is likely never going to become a defender/rebounder or change much. But he's young, has talent, was a former #3 overall pick by us and was highly touted. If nobody is offering me a 1st rounder, decent player that fits OR he's not able to fetch you either in a package.....im holding onto him and seeing what you can get with more development. The risk of holding onto him is better then the reward in that case.

Winejk · Post #114 » by **Winejk** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:23 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Okafor is likely never going to become a defender/rebounder or change much. But he's young, has talent, was a former #3 overall pick by us and was highly touted. If nobody is offering me a 1st rounder, decent player that fits OR he's not able to fetch you either in a package.....im holding onto him and seeing what you can get with more development. The risk of holding onto him is better then the reward in that case.

At this point unless BC gets something he deems is good value for Okafor, might as well keep Okafor and hope for the best. If Okafor can accept his role as being a scoring big man off the bench he will be useful. I envision him being like James Edwards was in the Piston championship years (not the Ben Wallace/Hamilton/Billups version, but the Aguire, Thomas and Laimbeer version). Edwards would carry the team at times offensively if Aguire was on the bench. Also with a reduced role, Okafor might actually be able to put more effort into defense and rebounding. In the end the playoffs are about mismatches and scoring in crunch time. Okafor gives the Sixers another tool to potentially create mismatches.

plead.5th · Post #115 » by **plead.5th** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:05 am

So Lakers get #6 next year then Sac hits for 1 the following year could be ideal...

Post #116 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:26 am

plead.5th wrote:So Lakers get #6 next year then Sac hits for 1 the following year could be ideal...

Ideally they both win the lottery.

freshie2 · Post #117 » by **freshie2** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:34 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:
plead.5th wrote:So Lakers get #6 next year then Sac hits for 1 the following year could be ideal...

Ideally they both win the lottery.

Could you imagine!! Top it off with the sixers in the EC finals in '19!

eagereyez · Post #118 » by **eagereyez** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:49 pm

Nick Young opted out. So they lost Young, LouWill, and D'Lo. They are adding Lopez and a rookie. If Lopez goes down then LA is probably the worst team in the NBA. I don't see how the pick doesn't convey unless they trade for George or win the lottery.

eyeatoma · Post #119 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:08 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:
plead.5th wrote:So Lakers get #6 next year then Sac hits for 1 the following year could be ideal...

Ideally they both win the lottery.

Hold the phone!!! So if the Lakers get the #1 next year and the Kings the #1 next year, we would get both??? I thought that's what I read but I just wanted to confirm...

If that does happen, then the celtics get the sixers 2019 unprotected right?

Post #120 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:15 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
plead.5th wrote:So Lakers get #6 next year then Sac hits for 1 the following year could be ideal...

Ideally they both win the lottery.

Hold the phone!!! So if the Lakers get the #1 next year and the Kings the #1 next year, we would get both??? I thought that's what I read but I just wanted to confirm...

If that does happen, then the celtics get the sixers 2019 unprotected right?

Yeah and yeah.