Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

[El Poochio]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Unless there is already a deal agreed upon, or if Phil knows he is %100 not trading KP

If you are not trading him then what is the point of the press conference and the hit piece article?

To communicate with you

[Slicin N Dicin]

Phil trying to do his mindf*cks he used to pull back in the Lakers days...gotta understand that players these days are much more sensitive than he was used to when he was coaching.


Those Rosen pieces are trash and need to be stopped....no benefit of those

[thebuzzardman]

:lol: "I root for the front of the jersey." Christ. We ALL root for the team, the difference is some of us don't blindly follow a **** FO executive.

You always beat this drum, like Phil being a d*ck or KP being a d*ck are mutually exclusive.


Once again. Phil's been an ass. KP and crew are now matching him one for one. That said, that doesn't make me want KP dealt any more than it did the other day (well, maybe some), but if I can flip KP, a #4 pick, for another guy who was a top 5 pick, and then get a top 5 pick also, then to me, that accelerates the rebuild by at least a year.

Would I do Booker and #4 for KP? In a heartbeat, even if KP was my favorite player.

Because KP's been good, but potential is still a big question. He'll get better. But how much better? Who knows. All I know there are at least three tall guys I can name off the top of my head who looked way more advanced their first two years than KP - Durant, AD and KT. Now, obviously those are top of the draft guys. But it's not a given that KP will look significantly different as a player next year, or two years from now, then he does right now. Better? Yes. More developed? Yes. Will that crossover ever really be a true NBA ability and less of a sort of gimmick? Who knows. Will he ever develop a post game? Who knows.

[sol537]

Why would Rosen publish that hit piece on KP now? Couldn't he wait a day to do so? If he is indeed "taking orders" from Phil, it's dumb to devalue your own players time and time again. Phil thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but he's shown the opposite so far. It leads me to believe that, perhaps, his title teams mostly won in spite of him.

Because Phil doesnt want to trade the young man, but if someone offers a kings ransom then KP may go. There is no article in the world, by anyone, that would deter a club for making a huge offer.

What the Celtics would have to give give up would be in the neighborhood of this years and the better of next years pick, plus Crowder or Bradley.
We pick Jackson, move Melo to 4 and select another pick.

Jackson knows what he has and will extract what most pundits would agree was a great haul for New York.

Not to worry though, hopefully PK will get who the boss of bosses is. Phil is no puppet and to be fked with.

I hope you are right because Phil's handling of the Melo situation and several of his other actions/moves have been amateur hour so far. I'll hold out hope that he's learning on the job, but it's becoming more and more difficult with each passing day...

[April madness]

Jesus, he's only deadlifting 135? My 17 year old niece is doing that.

Your niece is lifting 135 kilos? Why????? Is she an olympic weight lifter or what?

[thebuzzardman]

I changed it because I liked it. I would change it again, but I'm out of switches...although I was thinking of asking to see if I can change it again. You're taking the avatar and name thing too seriously, dude.

Honestly, if Phil trades KP and stays, we will see what happens with me. Phil is a major issue for me. I'll still be a fan...but this is a HUGE issue for me...that's all I'll say. It has less to do with KP and a lot more to do with Phil running this franchise into the ground.

Hard to say he's running the franchise to the ground when we have Willy, KP and all our picks. Until he trades KP for trash I'll agree with you. But he hasn't done anything franchise damaging yet. That's a premature statement.

Not picking a direction, **** contracts, forcing triangle, bad trades, firing coaches, ghost writers, tweeting, pissing players off...

Trading KP would be the ice on the cake, but he's been bad...it's not premature at all, IMO.

You accuse people of tending to overreact to things being reported a certain way, but your list certainly has a bit of that flavor in it. Guys react to a reported thing, have an opinion about it, you say they are misinformed and overreacting. While your list is definitely more objective, there are a few items falling a bit into the conjecture territory that happen to dovetail with your opinion, so you are ok with it. Which is ok, but same thing.

[Crunchknicks1]

I'm a knick fan but it's wrong to trade a 2nd year player because of this. I can't take being the laughing stock of the NBA every year. Because we hire stupid people Like phil who put Prozingis on blast. And melo on blast why don't we just be normal for once. ??? Can't we do business the right way. Phil said they getting better how ? With what ? No record. Not coaching. Not free Agency. Not player development. Not with the fans. Not with the media. But we are to trust him how ?? Enough with phil already fire him today before he do yet another stupid move. Dolan stop this madness nothing got better with nothing. The only thing he did right was draft Prozingis now you want to undo that. Why can't we just do things the right way for once like one year the right smh I can't no more

[Yankeeknickfan]

Suns doing things right. Their young star is untouchable

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

Suns doing things right. Their young star is untouchable

It seems like kp is also.....

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[thebuzzardman]

Jesus, he's only deadlifting 135? My 17 year old niece is doing that.

Your niece is lifting 135 kilos? Why????? Is she an olympic weight lifter or what?

I'd hope KP is lifting kilos instead of pounds here, at 22 years of age. Kripes, my son benches 275 and he's 15. Then again, he's a bit of a freak strength wise, though that isn't that far beyond the norm. It's when he squats 460 that it's really freaky.

[matchman]

Phil is out of this world and should retire asap. His style simply does not fit this era, whether playing style or recruiting/retaining players.

[K_ick_God]

What do you do when Boston offers exactly what Phil asks?

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No. 'It's not quite what we're looking for at this time.' He's obviously bluffing. He's more annoyed at him and his brother than he is ready to trade him.

I hope you are right. I am very uneasy about the situation. To me, Phil sounded like he is trying to get fans ready for a deal that is already agreed on. I think he is really into Josh Jackson as reported and a deal with most likely Boston is already in place.

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I doubt he's got it in his mind to trade KP.

Hilarious that the Suns are now telling us what is off the table, reportedly. Booker is not even that good. I like him too but give me a break. That guy is not some great talent.

[thebuzzardman]

Read that Rosen article and I started getting angry because this is complete bs. KP´s attitude is a problem? What should´ve been the content of that "exit interview" anyway?!?! Jackson has a big ego problem and only wants to flex his muscles...

Welcome to the Melo crews world.
Melo should come out and defend Kris.

That would entail Melo displaying leadership qualities, = nevergonnahappen

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

Soo the sense im getting is most if not all of you guy's are kp and melo fans more so than you are knick fans.

Its truly sad.

LOL, coming from the guy who is a bigger Phil fan than a Knicks fan, this is rich.

Dude phil jackson is an 11 time champion. He knows what it takes to win.

Wtf has melo and kp won?? ***** nothing.

It boggles my mind how lost most of you guys continue to be.

[NBA Fan 1234]

:lol: "I root for the front of the jersey." Christ. We ALL root for the team, the difference is some of us don't blindly follow a **** FO executive.

You always beat this drum, like Phil being a d*ck or KP being a d*ck are mutually exclusive.


Once again. Phil's been an ass. KP and crew are now matching him one for one. That said, that doesn't make me want KP dealt any more than it did the other day (well, maybe some), but if I can flip KP, a #4 pick, for another guy who was a top 5 pick, and then get a top 5 pick also, then to me, that accelerates the rebuild by at least a year.

Would I do Booker and #4 for KP? In a heartbeat, even if KP was my favorite player.

Because KP's been good, but potential is still a big question. He'll get better. But how much better? Who knows. All I know there are at least three tall guys I can name off the top of my head who looked way more advanced their first two years than KP - Durant, AD and KT. Now, obviously those are top of the draft guys. But it's not a given that KP will look significantly different as a player next year, or two years from now, then he does right now. Better? Yes. More developed? Yes. Will that crossover ever really be a true NBA ability and less of a sort of gimmick? Who knows. Will he ever develop a post game? Who knows.

The way I see it, KP wouldn't be like this if Phil wasn't a twat - he is the sole reason why KP is "acting out." Also, just because he's not advanced doesn't mean he won't be there. He's significantly further ahead than KD and KAT are defensively at the same stage, so there's that. He's also not much further behind KAT, IMO. KD is a different beast in that respect, though. Dirk wasn't the same player he was in his second year as he was in his fifth year either. I'm not saying he'll reach Dirk's level offensively, but he's ahead defensively. I'm not willing to give up on KP and will 100% excuse his actions because of everything Phil has done (which I don't want to get into again).

[reub]

Phil is out of this world and should retire asap. His style simply does not fit this era, whether playing style or recruiting/retaining players.

What era is that? The era of snowflakes and safe spaces?

[david_james]

I'm at the point where I'm looking for any sign at all to make me feel better and KP just posted another Instagram video of himself working out and he's rocking Knicks' gear and the Knicks' t-shirt so take that for what its worth. It probably doesn't mean anything but I think I've convinced myself it means something. I hate this front office. I need a drink.

[thebuzzardman]

**** yeah. This is what matters at the end of the day. Leave that exit meeting **** behind.

What matters at the end of the day? That KP has time for cute social media pics while ignoring his coach and president?

KP. The Jen Selter of the NBA.

[Marty McFly]

Soo the sense im getting is most if not all of you guy's are kp and melo fans more so than you are knick fans.

Its truly sad.

what's sad is this **** post. if you can't understand why people would be upset about the kp situation, if you can't understand what he represents for the future of this team, you haven't been a knick fan long enough.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Soo the sense im getting is most if not all of you guy's are kp and melo fans more so than you are knick fans.

Its truly sad.

LOL, coming from the guy who is a bigger Phil fan than a Knicks fan, this is rich.

Dude phil jackson is an 11 time champion. He knows what it takes to win.

Wtf has melo and kp won?? ***** nothing.

It boggles my mind how lost most of you guys continue to be.

AS A **** COACH. Holy **** ****, dude, are you that dense that you don't know the difference between coaching teams to 11 championships with LOADED teams and being a FO executive? Seriously? He knows what it takes to win as a COACH, but just because he can COACH does not mean he will be a successful FO EXECUTIVE. JUST LIKE being a great PLAYER does not mean you will be a great COACH or FO EXECUTIVE. The jobs are **** different.

It boggles my mind how **** stupid people can be when they say "LALALA RINGZ RINGZ RINGZ."

Phil won't be here once his contract ends. KP WILL. He is the **** future of this team, not some senile egotistical twat **** who has no **** idea what he's doing.

Robert Horry has RINGZZZZZ he knows how to win, right? He'll be a better FO exec than everyone who has fewer RINGZ than him, right? FOH with that bull logic. THE JOB IS **** DIFFERENT. WHAT HE DID AS A COACH MEANS JACK **** TO HIIM AS AN EXECUTIVE.