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Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#901 » by Knox » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:23 pm

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NYKfan77 wrote:You guys aren't getting it for 3 years Phil had no structure and acted like an Fing idiot running his mount, having Rosen hit piece players and tweeting a bunch of stupid crap. A couple things off of that statement. 1- Can expect your players to act any different then the way you are acting... 2- After 3 years can all the sudden turn into a hard *** and say you are trying to build a culture or structure 3 - You can't have a player go AWOL in the middle of the season without punishment...

Doesn't work that way in real life.



You can't expect Phil to fix decades worth of F***ery in three years. The one thing we are overlooking is Phil has to deal with Dolan as much as he has to deal with fixing the franchise. I am sure keeping Dolan away is a big pain in the butt. All I know this is the best position the Knicks have been in years. We don't have to many garbage contracts, we have our draft picks, and we have a man willing to uphold our franchise despite star players turning turncoat diva on us



What stuff carries over from decades to decades. He has turned this roster over multiple times. So no players are carry overs. So now we are saying Phil failed because the drama that was here from years before him?


I am saying it takes time to change the culture of an environment that has been as unorganized, toxic and mediocre. We still have the same owner contributing to this problem. Phil has to convince Dolan, his players and his staff to buy into the new culture he is trying to establish. Dolan alone is a workout to deal with. So I am giving him some space for error as he is progressing as a rookie executive. No matter who you have there will always be growing pains. I am willing to accept these lumps from Phil because I believe he will only get better in the long run. Had we had IT at the helm we would of given up KP a draft pick for Jaylen Brown , a 7th and a bad contract. I feel Phil at his worst is still better then the goons we have had in Knicks Past
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#902 » by rammagen » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:23 pm

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NYKfan77 wrote:If Boston makes a deal for 7 then trade is a go. They aren't doing that just because



All joking aside if we get the 3 and 7 and keep the 8. Who's available at 7? We get Jackson at 3, monk at 7 and frank at 8?????? That's a trash team wth no bigs

That's why I think Suns deal makes more sense since they get Chriss in it too who is good young big with potential. Take Chriss, take #4, take Warren who is Melo replacement, take Miami's unprotected 1st rd pick next year and dump Noah.
nope pas on that because neither player is close to being the same player KP is and just to dump Noah pass
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Re: RE: Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#903 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:23 pm

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Sark wrote:What would Bill Belichick do if a player skipped out on an exit meeting with him, and didn't return his calls?

What would Gregg Popovich do if a player skipped out on an exit meeting with him, and didn't return his calls?

Phil is not the coach. It's a big difference.


Did KP attend a meeting with Jeff and not Phil?

Also, it's not a big difference since Pop is also the President of the Spurs.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#904 » by NYKAL » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:24 pm

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As they SHOULD be. You want to be blown away by any deal that includes Kris. It should also help Kristaps ego knowing that NY wanted the House and all the appliances, including the kitchen sink for him. Shows we weren't looking to dump him, just doing the job a GM is SUPPOSED to do. He never should have let the media get knowledge of it but, he is doing nothing he isn't supposed to be doing by listening
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#905 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:25 pm

Rotten Apple wrote:We can expedite this rebuild

Brown- The Asset
2 lottery picks this year
2 lottery picks next year
Hernangomez
Maybe a 2019 lottery pick as wel

That's 7 potential core players if we don't f*ck up


If you draft really well and you're lucky (those picks panning out), that might be a nice core of surrounding talent. Now if we could only find a franchise level talent that we could surround with those guys...
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#906 » by PORZINGAAAWDD » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:25 pm

Porzingus was a soft euro last year. Settled for jumpers most the time and got used a lot. Don't expect a haul for him. His ego is bigger than his game at this point
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#907 » by Fat Kat » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:26 pm

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#908 » by Amsterdam » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:26 pm

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Phil's tryna take everything :lol:



Wow Phil is playing master head games now.

If Ainge balks, Phil will let KP know: "hey Boston felt you wasn't worthy, now what you gonna do?"

KP should have a HUGE chip to kill opponents.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#909 » by TankCommander17 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:26 pm

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Rotten Apple wrote:We can expedite this rebuild

Brown- The Asset
2 lottery picks this year
2 lottery picks next year
Hernangomez
Maybe a 2019 lottery pick as wel

That's 7 potential core players if we don't f*ck up


If you draft really well and you're lucky (those picks panning out), that might be a nice core of surrounding talent. Now if we could only find a franchise level talent that we could surround with those guys...

That is what the nyets pick and our own pick are for.

There are some really intriguing bigs next year that have franchise player potential.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#910 » by Rotten Apple » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:27 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
Rotten Apple wrote:We can expedite this rebuild

Brown- The Asset
2 lottery picks this year
2 lottery picks next year
Hernangomez
Maybe a 2019 lottery pick as wel

That's 7 potential core players if we don't f*ck up


If you draft really well and you're lucky (those picks panning out), that might be a nice core of surrounding talent. Now if we could only find a franchise level talent that we could surround with those guys...


Jackson, Ntilikina, Porter Jr., Ayton. There's talent there.

KP isn't the end all be all
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#911 » by Dkillanyk4lyf » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:27 pm

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#912 » by JXL » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:27 pm

PORZINGAAAWDD wrote:Porzingus was a soft euro last year. Settled for jumpers most the time and got used a lot. Don't expect a haul for him. His ego is bigger than his game at this point


Phil's ego is bigger than the NBA right now.

LeBron, Melo, Michele Roberts, KP, the Cavs, the Warriors, your mom, everyone he has tongue lashed against he comes up on the losing end.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#913 » by Amsterdam » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:28 pm

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Lmao, Phil fkn with Ainge now, while PK is sweating it out...jaja

"Your move Ainge"

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#914 » by Knox » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:29 pm

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Lmao, Phil fkn with Ainge now, while PK is sweating it out...jaja

"Your move Ainge"

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Do you think Boston will forgive him for passing up on the next closest thing to Larry bird in the Modern era :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#915 » by Maury2423 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:30 pm

What if Phil contacted KP and told him that he's not being traded and to not believe the rumors he's going to hear because Phil just wanted to troll every GM in the league.


Basically Phil told KP "Hold my beer"
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#916 » by NYKAL » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:30 pm

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Phil's tryna take everything :lol:



Wow Phil is playing master head games now.

If Ainge balks, Phil will let KP know: "hey Boston felt you wasn't worthy, now what you gonna do?"

KP should have a HUGE chip to kill opponents.



I'm glad Phil is sticking to his huge price. Ainge has been raping GM's for so many years, if he wants Proz, make him pay out the ass for him
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#917 » by PORZINGAAAWDD » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:30 pm

JXL wrote:
PORZINGAAAWDD wrote:Porzingus was a soft euro last year. Settled for jumpers most the time and got used a lot. Don't expect a haul for him. His ego is bigger than his game at this point


Phil's ego is bigger than the NBA right now.

LeBron, Melo, Michele Roberts, KP, the Cavs, the Warriors, your mom, everyone he has tongue lashed against he comes up on the losing end.



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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#918 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:31 pm

TankCommander17 wrote:
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Rotten Apple wrote:We can expedite this rebuild

Brown- The Asset
2 lottery picks this year
2 lottery picks next year
Hernangomez
Maybe a 2019 lottery pick as wel

That's 7 potential core players if we don't f*ck up


If you draft really well and you're lucky (those picks panning out), that might be a nice core of surrounding talent. Now if we could only find a franchise level talent that we could surround with those guys...

That is what the nyets pick and our own pick are for.

There are some really intriguing bigs next year that have franchise player potential.


Potential is the key word. The only thing they have is potential. Meanwhile, KP is already a somewhat proven commodity. He has proved that his floor is at the very least an All-Star, and on top of that he still has that franchise player potential.

Maybe this video can illustrate my point better:

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#919 » by ITGM » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:31 pm

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#920 » by frogfood » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:31 pm

Maury2423 wrote:What if Phil contacted KP and told him that he's not being traded and to not believe the rumors he's going to hear because Phil just wanted to troll every GM in the league.


Basically Phil told KP "Hold my beer"


What does that accomplish besides pissing off other GMs, and making yourself look foolish and have the fanbase hate you.

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