Around the league 2016-2017

[clownclownclown]

What does LMA have left on his contract? Is it just one season then a player option??

If the Sixers could get something thrown in might as well take a look, not that many teams have tons of cap space like the Sixers.

21.5 then 22.5 PO

[Unbreakable99]

Wow! Magic didn't hold back lol.

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[76ciology]

Wow! Magic didn't hold back lol.

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IMO it show he's pressure with the heat he's getting from the trade.

[PLO]

Wow! Magic didn't hold back lol.

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IMO it show he's pressure with the heat he's getting from the trade.

Still, he should have get his mouth shut - that's classless and its not exactly going to help you in FA, though its true the Lakers are an almost bullet-proof FA destination despite being one of the worst run organisations in the league.

[Kobblehead]

I really hope Dlo continues to get better and makes the Lakers regret moving him.

[Skates]

If the Celtics end up getting Paul George the Lakers will be screwed. They remind me a lot of the Knicks thinking they would surely get Lebron only to watch him go to Miami, then blowing their cash on Amare and company. Trading young assets without getting back a star in the deal is idiotic. Bad mouthing the kid after he leaves, no matter the problems Russell had, is classless. Magic deserves Lavar and all the BS that comes with him. I don't see Lebron going there, Jerry West will see to that.

[76ciology]

Been following Lakers and Celtics lately. I sense some stress on both Ainge and Magic. Feels like things arent going according to plan for them.

I also find Pelinka's reasoning for the DLo deal funny. This guy's a liar

[PLO]

I really want to give Ainge the benefit of any doubt - he has a very good record as a GM, though any GM with that one single trade involving the golden-goose Nets picks would have a very good record whatever else he did. However I cannot make head or tail of their strategy; maybe it will become clearer after FA - they could, and should have, seriously gone after a Jimmy Butler or Paul George during the season, they have more than enough ammunition.

OK, so you don't want Butler or George because you already have a lot of players of that type - what about Nerlens Noel? He would have been the perfect player to add and certainly would have helped a push this year and surely you could have topped the deal the Mavs got him for, even if you have to pay quite a bit more because you're trading in conference with the 6ers. Then they could have added Butler during the draft for basically chump change - but you're too tight fisted to let go of some of these assests you have. Then to add to this you trade out of the number one pick to get high-floor/similar ceiling Jayson Tatum? Who plays the same position as the guy you drafted last year? While your current lead guard is 5'9 and due to max-contract not far down the track? With injury issues? And the best guard prospect in some years is available to you and you can rookie contract him for years?

This entire thing makes little sense to me. Maybe Ainge is playing 8 D chess and I'm only used to 1D chequers or something but at this stage if I were a Celtics fan I would not be happy with what Ainge has (not) been doing.

[76ciology]

OK, so you don't want Butler or George because you already have a lot of players of that type - what about Nerlens Noel? He would have been the perfect player to add and certainly would have helped a push this year and surely you could have topped the deal the Mavs got him for, even if you have to pay quite a bit more because you're trading in conference with the 6ers.

I thought, considering everything, passing up on Nerlens turns out good for him. Atleast he can optimally use his cap for a Hayward or George while also ending up with Jaylen.

[eagereyez]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

[76ciology]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

Trade Wiggins and they're set. Hope they can trade Wigs for PG. That would punk both Celts and Lakers hahaha

[the_process]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

Wiggins is holding that team back. For as bad as they fleeced CHI... they probably are a better team if they had dealt Wiggins and kept LaVine. At least Zach provides spacing. You can sag off Wiggins. He's like a more athletic but non-passing version of DeRozan.

[Ericb5]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

You can't measure teams against the Warriors like that, especially young teams. I think that the Wolves are now ready to take the next step, up to a solid playoff team.

The growth in their team beyond that will likely come with how good Towns and Wiggins can get. Wiggins is behind the 8 ball right now, but I still think that he has a good chance of one day becoming an allstar. The superstar ship has sailed.

Towns is a pure franchise player, and he is the REAL difference maker there. If he can improve his defense some more(and I think he can especially if he plays the 4) then they could jump up into the mid 50's with wins in two years.

History is littered with elite teams with elite futures that didn't pan out. The Warriors don't have a clear horizon to keeping that team together by any stretch. They are underpaying that current team, and injuries can happen at anytime. It is very easy to be lulled into the sense that they are going to be the best team in the league for the next 5 years. History gives them very little chance to do that, but that is why we play the games of course.


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[Chris76]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

You can't measure teams against the Warriors like that, especially young teams. I think that the Wolves are now ready to take the next step, up to a solid playoff team.

The growth in their team beyond that will likely come with how good Towns and Wiggins can get. Wiggins is behind the 8 ball right now, but I still think that he has a good chance of one day becoming an allstar. The superstar ship has sailed.

Towns is a pure franchise player, and he is the REAL difference maker there. If he can improve his defense some more(and I think he can especially if he plays the 4) then they could jump up into the mid 50's with wins in two years.

History is littered with elite teams with elite futures that didn't pan out. The Warriors don't have a clear horizon to keeping that team together by any stretch. They are underpaying that current team, and injuries can happen at anytime. It is very easy to be lulled into the sense that they are going to be the best team in the league for the next 5 years. History gives them very little chance to do that, but that is why we play the games of course.


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Good points. The wolves should be exciting to watch, Butler fits well with them. Anyway, it's amazing how bb iq is hard to judge with players. For example, Wiggins is such a gifted player but seems to lack the bb iq to make his teammates better, so far. Whether it's an extra pass or better team defense. Maybe, he can improve his bb iq in the future. Furthermore, Simmons seems to have a very high bb iq and it should be interesting to see if he will make the Sixers better. Although adding teammates with the potential of Fultz, Embiid, and others should make that task easier.

[76ciology]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

You can't measure teams against the Warriors like that, especially young teams. I think that the Wolves are now ready to take the next step, up to a solid playoff team.

The growth in their team beyond that will likely come with how good Towns and Wiggins can get. Wiggins is behind the 8 ball right now, but I still think that he has a good chance of one day becoming an allstar. The superstar ship has sailed.

Towns is a pure franchise player, and he is the REAL difference maker there. If he can improve his defense some more(and I think he can especially if he plays the 4) then they could jump up into the mid 50's with wins in two years.

History is littered with elite teams with elite futures that didn't pan out. The Warriors don't have a clear horizon to keeping that team together by any stretch. They are underpaying that current team, and injuries can happen at anytime. It is very easy to be lulled into the sense that they are going to be the best team in the league for the next 5 years. History gives them very little chance to do that, but that is why we play the games of course.


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Good points. The wolves should be exciting to watch, Butler fits well with them. Anyway, it's amazing how bb iq is hard to judge with players. For example, Wiggins is such a gifted player but seems to lack the bb iq to make his teammates better, so far. Whether it's an extra pass or better team defense. Maybe, he can improve his bb iq in the future. Furthermore, Simmons seems to have a very high bb iq and it should be interesting to see if he will make the Sixers better. Although adding teammates with the potential of Fultz, Embiid, and others should make that task easier.

You see how GSW use McGee? That's how Wolves should use Wiggins. Just simplify his decision making. Which I think adding Butler would do. On offense, Rubio, Butler and Towns should make most of the playmaking and just let Wiggins be a pure scorer. Oh... And he really needs to lessen his post/iso game I don't care if he's even elite in it. Thats bad offense

[PLO]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

Wiggins is holding that team back. For as bad as they fleeced CHI... they probably are a better team if they had dealt Wiggins and kept LaVine. At least Zach provides spacing. You can sag off Wiggins. He's like a more athletic but non-passing version of DeRozan.

I think it was Lowe who described the TWolves post-Butler trade as an upgraded Thibs-Bulls team Same flaws in both teams

[ivysixer2000]

OK, so you don't want Butler or George because you already have a lot of players of that type - what about Nerlens Noel? He would have been the perfect player to add and certainly would have helped a push this year and surely you could have topped the deal the Mavs got him for, even if you have to pay quite a bit more because you're trading in conference with the 6ers.

I thought, considering everything, passing up on Nerlens turns out good for him. Atleast he can optimally use his cap for a Hayward or George while also ending up with Jaylen.

I just don't see how those 2 would help them, they are already loaded up at those positions.

They need a big man, and Noel would've at least helped them out a lil with that issue.

[eagereyez]

Wolves trade LaVine and a backup PG for Butler and yet I can't bring myself to get excited about that team. They're still getting swept by the Warriors for the foreseeable future.

You can't measure teams against the Warriors like that, especially young teams. I think that the Wolves are now ready to take the next step, up to a solid playoff team.

The growth in their team beyond that will likely come with how good Towns and Wiggins can get. Wiggins is behind the 8 ball right now, but I still think that he has a good chance of one day becoming an allstar. The superstar ship has sailed.

Towns is a pure franchise player, and he is the REAL difference maker there. If he can improve his defense some more(and I think he can especially if he plays the 4) then they could jump up into the mid 50's with wins in two years.

History is littered with elite teams with elite futures that didn't pan out. The Warriors don't have a clear horizon to keeping that team together by any stretch. They are underpaying that current team, and injuries can happen at anytime. It is very easy to be lulled into the sense that they are going to be the best team in the league for the next 5 years. History gives them very little chance to do that, but that is why we play the games of course.


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If the goal is to win a championship then you have to measure yourself against the best team in the league.

It's probably more likely that someone on the Wolves gets injured than someone on the Warriors. The Warriors are so dominant that they don't have to play heavy minutes. Last year Durant finished 25th in the league for MPG, a career low for him. Curry played even less minutes. The Warriors rest their players like the Spurs. They're on the low end for injury risks.

I don't think NBA history is littered with teams as dominant as the Warriors who fell apart due to the salary cap or injury. The Celtics with Larry Bird comes to mind. Shaq and Kobe broke up due to their egos. Am I missing anyone? There aren't many teams that have been to 3 straight finals with 4 star players under the age of 29.

[76ciology]

OK, so you don't want Butler or George because you already have a lot of players of that type - what about Nerlens Noel? He would have been the perfect player to add and certainly would have helped a push this year and surely you could have topped the deal the Mavs got him for, even if you have to pay quite a bit more because you're trading in conference with the 6ers.

I thought, considering everything, passing up on Nerlens turns out good for him. Atleast he can optimally use his cap for a Hayward or George while also ending up with Jaylen.

I just don't see how those 2 would help them, they are already loaded up at those positions.

They need a big man, and Noel would've at least helped them out a lil with that issue.

ivysixer2017 would say, you cant have too many wings nowadays

[shawn_hemp]

It's amazing to me how fast Isiah Thomas has gone from a potential MVP candidate to almost like an outcast on RealGM

I want him to leave Boston so I can actually root for him to do well. People forget how **** good of a shooter this guy is.