2017 Offseason Thread

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I think hes a far worse fit, and ive never been a fan. Talk about no spacing.

Aldridge avg 5 shots a game from 15-19ft and shot 42% on those attempts in a down year for him.

Blake avg 6 shots from 15-19ft and shot 33% in one of his best shooting seasons

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Aldridge was second in the league in post up percentage behind Al Jefferson. Last season he was fifth. 40% of his shots came inside of 10 feet this season. He used the same percentage of possessions as a PNR roll man as DJ did this season. Dj was in the 99th percentile and Aldridge the 34th. His eFG% on spot ups was a miserable 45%, ranking in the 45th percentile.

Hes a catch and shoot big, who scores from the elbow down, is really bad in the PNR, and is going to be an ugly fit next to Jordan.

Say what you will about Blake's shooting, but his ability to create offense off the dribble, play in the PNR, and his elite passing for a big make him the much better fit.

Interesting. I never would've guessed his post up rate was that high. Id be interested to compare his Portland numbers to his SA numbers. Where do you get those numbers from?

From the eye test, i see teams close out on LMA and teams sag off on Blake giving him that shot all game

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[TucsonClip]

Where do you get those numbers from?

Stats available to the public can be located at: http://stats.nba.com

[nickhx2]

the advanced stats and sorting/filters is pretty good on the nba site

[Ranma]

Despite the "Chris Paul Effect" generally giving his teammates a bump in statistical production, I did always feel that the Clippers under-utilized J.J. Redick. Now part of that may be because he couldn't maintain his constant-motion movement on the court for more than 30 minutes/night for the entirety of the season. However, there were definitely times where we didn't go to him early in games and, in essence, wasted the looks he worked to get. On the other hand, he's also had a history of disappearing in the playoffs and fading in the 4th quarter. Not to mention that he was fairly easy to neutralize when teams keyed in on him, which significantly limited our offensive prowess.

Enjoy the East Coast, J.J.

Kevin O' Connor, TheRinger.com (6/26/17)

Even though the Clippers have been consistently competitive since Paul’s arrival in 2011, the grass may indeed be greener on the other side — and that’s especially true for Redick.

Multiple league sources I’ve spoken to expect the Sixers and Nets to make a hard push at Redick. Were he to go to either of those teams, Redick could receive an opportunity unlike anything he’s had before. He is one of the greatest 3-point shooters in league history, and is coming off a season in which he averaged a career-high six 3-point attempts per game. That’s a lot of triples, but it’s not enough. Even Sixers swingman Robert Covington averaged more last season, at 6.1 per game, and he shot only 33.3 percent. A gunslinger of Redick’s caliber should be averaging about 8.5 treys, in the same range as Klay Thompson or Eric Gordon. Had Redick taken 8.5 3s last season and posted the same 42.9 percent clip, he would’ve averaged 18.2 points per game. Redick could receive those chances with the Sixers or Nets, all while living within close proximity to his home in Brooklyn.

Paul George, Blake Griffin, and More Unanswered NBA Questions

[ejftw]

Yeah, didn't realize stats had LMA in the post that often, never mind on him being a better fit I guess.

[Ranma]

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Justin J. Page, ESPN Stats & Info (6/27/17)

If Paul returns and Griffin leaves

If Paul returns and Griffin heads elsewhere, the Clippers won't be able to simply go out and replace him because they'd be left with under $1 million in cap space. Should that occur, LA would likely operate as an over-the-cap team, meaning the most they'd be able to offer a free agent outside of their own would be the non-taxpayer mid-level exception, which has a starting salary of $8.4 million.

If Griffin returns and Paul leaves

A similar situation would occur should Griffin return and Paul leave, as LA would be left with just $5.5 million in salary cap space. Again, the Clippers would likely operate as an over-the-cap team and would be able to offer an outside free agent a starting salary of $8.4 million.

If both Paul and Griffin leave

Should both Paul and Griffin leave, the Clippers would have about $34.4 million in salary cap space.

Simplifying Clippers' Convoluted Cap Situation

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Just saw this, know it's old, but damn, why would they pass up on netting firsts for Michineau?

[Ranma]

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Just saw this, know it's old, but damn, why would they pass up on netting firsts for Michineau?

It's a joke in reference to the tweet it cited (see below) as well as Minnesota's history of drafting point guards. During the 2009 NBA Draft alone with David Kahn at the helm as GM, the Timberwolves drafted Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn, Ty Lawson (later traded), and Nick Calathes (also traded). Since then they've drafted and traded both Kris Dunn and Zach LaVine, who was thought of as a combo guard at the time. Even post-Kahn, it seems like they can't shake their habit of having wandering eyes for other point guards.

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[Ranma]

Jerry West can make the argument that Neil Olshey passed on him in the 2010 draft to maybe mend bridges for him to play for his favorite team growing up. Plus, West himself was a strong advocate of Klay Thompson's in Golden State, so the Logo should have some influence in his decision as a free agent after the 2018-19 season. Along with LeBron James, who's to say the Clippers can't get any combination of those aforementioned 3 star players?

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[ejftw]

Well, the fact that wasn't a serious offer makes me a feel a bit better. I fell for it ha.

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Would LOVE to have Iggy fill that wing spot but is that actually realistic? Lol i mean other than Jerry West, what reason does he have to come here? We have no money, no prestige to hold over the Warriors heads as well. Would love it, but not sure thats really a viable option at this point

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[Ranma]

I've been reluctant to express this thought despite my proliferation of posts lately, but I'm going to do so anyway only because if it hits, I can come back and cite this to puff my chest a little.

Before I engage in my thoughts of whimsy on Gordon Hayward, I have to acknowledge that it's the longest of shots (almost Wammy-like ) since we don't have the cap space nor the assets to go after him unless we can spin DJ into gold and leverage BG into a S&T deal in the aftermath of a lowered projected salary cap. Plus, Chris Paul and Hayward weren't exactly fond of each other during their last meeting when they got entangled and exchanged some emotional choice words with each other, but couldn't the same be said of CP and his teammates. On top of all that, we wouldn't be able to offer an immediately competitive situation compared to Boston given what we'd have to do in order to get him.

Whatever the case may be, today's Baketball Analogy podcast [start at 59:00 timestamp] got me to thinking more on my fancy for Hayward even if it didn't exactly help my cause. First, there was some doubt expressed on whether the Clippers would offer Chris Paul 5 full years on a contract extension with the comment that it was far from a sure thing even though he was likelier to get a longer deal than Blake Griffin. Second, given Gordon Hayward's age, he may actually be more inclined to accept a 4- or even 3-year deal, which would allow him to be a free agent as a 10-year veteran who could get another max contract in his prime.

Jerry West has gone on record as wanting to pair Stephen Curry with a tall shooting guard capable of defending as well as shoot the lights out as a perfect complement for the Warriors' backcourt. The same principle would apply for Gordon Hayward filling the role of Klay Thompson to Chris Paul's Steph Curry.

Back in the day, it wouldn't be surprising to see the Logo come up with a shocking blockbuster trade/signing out of nowhere. Unfortunately, he not as involved now and significantly older as a newcomer to an organization. Still, would it be too much to hope for some more Logo magic to come from a guy who says that he still has the energy and passion to make a difference? Again, it's a pipedream but one that allows for hope with West on our side.

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These things always interest. What money will the Clippers have to go after him? The Clippers would only be going after him if at least one of Blake or Paul is back, so what money will they have for that?

[Ranma]

These things always interest. What money will the Clippers have to go after him? The Clippers would only be going after him if at least one of Blake or Paul is back, so what money will they have for that?

Justin J. Page, ESPN Stats & Info (6/27/17)

If Paul returns and Griffin leaves

If Paul returns and Griffin heads elsewhere, the Clippers won't be able to simply go out and replace him because they'd be left with under $1 million in cap space. Should that occur, LA would likely operate as an over-the-cap team, meaning the most they'd be able to offer a free agent outside of their own would be the non-taxpayer mid-level exception, which has a starting salary of $8.4 million.

If Griffin returns and Paul leaves

A similar situation would occur should Griffin return and Paul leave, as LA would be left with just $5.5 million in salary cap space. Again, the Clippers would likely operate as an over-the-cap team and would be able to offer an outside free agent a starting salary of $8.4 million.

Simplifying Clippers' Convoluted Cap Situation

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Yea, exactly, the MLE, lol. Austin and Jamal make more than that, Clippers aren't even in play with that much.

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Thats the non-taxpayer MLE, which assumes he would still want to sign here without one of Blake or CP3 on the roster. Thats even more unlikely than it is assuming they both re-sign.

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