official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[3toheadmelo]

Nets fan here.

We would take Melo off your hands with an unprotected 1st rounder attached for next year. Hell, we will even give you expiring Trevor Booker in return.
Melo gets to stay close to home atleast.

our first rounder or yours?

[Greenie]

Nets fan here.

We would take Melo off your hands with an unprotected 1st rounder attached for next year. Hell, we will even give you expiring Trevor Booker in return.
Melo gets to stay close to home atleast.

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[dakomish23]

Nets fan here.

We would take Melo off your hands with an unprotected 1st rounder attached for next year. Hell, we will even give you expiring Trevor Booker in return.
Melo gets to stay close to home atleast.

Take a hike.

[El Poochio]

I'm really stunned how disrespectful most of you are with our best player in the last 6 years. wow.

First you gotta pay your daily respects to the All Time Knick Great Stephon Marbury #St3ybury

[battabing10]

Staying close to his son might be #1 priority, but everything is a negotiation. If the Knicks cut him today and agreed to pay him every cent they owe him, I have a hard time believing he'd retire (or play for the Nets) to stay close to his son. He'd be on the next flight to Cleveland.

yeah it's a terrible idea to knuckle under to him for a buyout. if he feels trapped then good for the knicks-- they have leverage. we are going to have to be overpaid in any trade. if other teams thinks he is a good fit to help win now, then high 1st round picks are the only logical pieces to demand in return.

he should think about changing his role on the knicks as a backup plan, be the good soldier and accept a sixth man role. that would be the grownup thing for melo to do if a trade is not in the knicks' favor.

Who's starting at SF?

it doesn't really matter since we're trying to build something. and, since anyone they have will be a better defender------> the team defense for the starters will be much better without rose and melo out there together.

and, when dad melo comes in off the bench as a 6th man, he can devastate *their* bench, score points more efficiently, and help the knicks build leads or make comebacks as the case may be.

we need to establish a defensive identity which can then be taken on the road as we try to become a legitimate playoff team, since defense travels.

i think this is a GREAT scenario for both melo and the knicks, so please be kind and don't try and kill my buzz.

[DOT]

You're the one who brought up the Noah signing

I also brought up the Rose trade, but neither were the main argument, which y'all keep ignoring

Deflecting?

You mean like that time Phil told him we were gonna rebuild and asked him to waive the NTC, and Melo said nah, which led to us trading for Rose and signing Noah, because Phil thought Melo was still good enough to get us to the playoffs?

You said because of A, B happened.

I tell you B would of happened regardless of A and gave you proof of the interest PJax had.

Then you say wel that wasn't my main point.

You're the one deflecting. Not me. I stuck to what I said. You are not.

And if you had bothered to read my response to FPJax, you would have read that I agree with you on Phil probably wanting to bring Noah in regardless of Melo
Melo wanted to stay despite saying he wouldn't, so we decided to accomodate him by making win-now moves. This is not blaming him for the actual moves Phil made, but by reneging on his promise, he set the direction. Melo makes us too good to tank, so Phil wanted to try to make the playoffs. It didn't work.
And talking highly of a player you just got isn't "proof," it's standard procedure
So Melo is blameless for everything despite going back on his promise then, because he doesn't make the moves himself?
Phil takes the L for the actual moves, Melo gets it for refusing to do what he said he would

[Greenie]

I hope Phil doesn't waive or buy out his ass. We're going to suck, and I hope Melo has a front row seat. His career ranking is going to be greatly affected by staying in NY, but that's what he wants.

How?
If he's benched we look silly because we are talent deficient. If he plays, no one expects anything because we are talent deficient. If we win with him playing it's helps his "lore" because we are talent deficient.

[MadGrinch]

its hilarious in a way , according to phil melo is the reason the knicks suck
despite the fact the knicks are 2-16 in the games melo has missed the last 2 seasons

as someone already said melo is a scapegoat to cover up for phil's mistakes

mistakes like giving melo a NTC so carmelo would take less than the max to give the knicks more cap space after the 2nd year of his contract ...

cap space is good , using that cap space to sign aaron afflalo , not so good

melo being schrewd negotiated a trade kicker to give him back the money if he were to ever allow a trade, but until he allows it he is a knick and the only to get rid of him with out his permission is to cut him and pay him every red cent he is owed .

[Greenie]

yeah it's a terrible idea to knuckle under to him for a buyout. if he feels trapped then good for the knicks-- they have leverage. we are going to have to be overpaid in any trade. if other teams thinks he is a good fit to help win now, then high 1st round picks are the only logical pieces to demand in return.

he should think about changing his role on the knicks as a backup plan, be the good soldier and accept a sixth man role. that would be the grownup thing for melo to do if a trade is not in the knicks' favor.

Who's starting at SF?

it doesn't really matter since we're trying to build something. and, since anyone they have will be a better defender------> the team defense for the starters will be much better without rose and melo out there together.

and, when dad melo comes in off the bench as a 6th man, he can devastate *their* bench, score points more efficiently, and help the knicks build leads or make comebacks as the case may be.

we need to establish a defensive identity which can then be taken on the road as we try to become a legitimate playoff team, since defense travels.

i think this is a GREAT scenario for both melo and the knicks, so please be kind and don't try and kill my buzz.

You want Lance starting don't you?

Noah
KP
Lance
Lee
Rose

[dakomish23]

I also brought up the Rose trade, but neither were the main argument, which y'all keep ignoring

Deflecting?

You mean like that time Phil told him we were gonna rebuild and asked him to waive the NTC, and Melo said nah, which led to us trading for Rose and signing Noah, because Phil thought Melo was still good enough to get us to the playoffs?

You said because of A, B happened.

I tell you B would of happened regardless of A and gave you proof of the interest PJax had.

Then you say wel that wasn't my main point.

You're the one deflecting. Not me. I stuck to what I said. You are not.

And if you had bothered to read my response to FPJax, you would have read that I agree with you on Phil probably wanting to bring Noah in regardless of Melo
Melo wanted to stay despite saying he wouldn't, so we decided to accomodate him by making win-now moves. This is not blaming him for the actual moves Phil made, but by reneging on his promise, he set the direction. Melo makes us too good to tank, so Phil wanted to try to make the playoffs. It didn't work.
And talking highly of a player you just got isn't "proof," it's standard procedure
So Melo is blameless for everything despite going back on his promise then, because he doesn't make the moves himself?
Phil takes the L for the actual moves, Melo gets it for refusing to do what he said he would

Fair enough.

[King of Canada]

Nets fan here.

We would take Melo off your hands with an unprotected 1st rounder attached for next year. Hell, we will even give you expiring Trevor Booker in return.
Melo gets to stay close to home atleast.

Just in case you're not familiar with the norms around here, it's customary to write in green font so people know you're joking.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

KP is next... then frank

people call us "Melo fans" because we actually appreciate our best player. i think we all know who's the real Knicks fans here

People really don't get tgat this is what this actually is.

We see what's what.

I'm not **** on our best player because the Knicks lack team building skills.

im just sippin my tea at this point
they're like robots. they repeat the same bull every day 24/7

"melo is a cancer"
"melo is a bad team mate"
"you cant win with melo"
"trade melo for trash"
"melo doesnt pass the ball"
"melo is a coach killer"


every day 24/7 i read that. by the same people.

you can open up a thread from almost a year ago and find these exact same posts...some people are probably just copy and pasting at this point repeating the same sh*t day after day, week after week, month after month

[Greenie]

its hilarious in a way , according to phil melo is the reason the knicks suck
despite the fact the knicks are 2-16 in the games melo has missed the last 2 seasons

as someone already said melo is a scapegoat to cover up for phil's mistakes

mistakes like giving melo a NTC so carmelo would take less than the max to give the knicks more cap space after the 2nd year of his contract ...

cap space is good , using that cap space to sign aaron afflalo , not so good

melo being schrewd negotiated a trade kicker to give him back the money if he were to ever allow a trade, but until he allows it he is a knick and the only to get rid of him with out his permission is to cut him and pay him every red cent he is owed .

Melo and his agent should be applauded for that deal alone. Leon Rose is one of the best in the game.

[Thugger HBC]

We're rebuilding, just start Kuz at SF.

[dakomish23]

its hilarious in a way , according to phil melo is the reason the knicks suck
despite the fact the knicks are 2-16 in the games melo has missed the last 2 seasons

as someone already said melo is a scapegoat to cover up for phil's mistakes

mistakes like giving melo a NTC so carmelo would take less than the max to give the knicks more cap space after the 2nd year of his contract ...

cap space is good , using that cap space to sign aaron afflalo , not so good

melo being schrewd negotiated a trade kicker to give him back the money if he were to ever allow a trade, but until he allows it he is a knick and the only to get rid of him with out his permission is to cut him and pay him every red cent he is owed .

That's not even what he did. He signed LFT and Amundson deals over the vet min at 1.6 each so it cut into our cap space. Thats where that extra 3 mil went.

When you worship PJax he will make sure you get paid.

[mpharris36]

Nets fan here.

We would take Melo off your hands with an unprotected 1st rounder attached for next year. Hell, we will even give you expiring Trevor Booker in return.
Melo gets to stay close to home atleast.

[King of Canada]

its hilarious in a way , according to phil melo is the reason the knicks suck
despite the fact the knicks are 2-16 in the games melo has missed the last 2 seasons

as someone already said melo is a scapegoat to cover up for phil's mistakes

mistakes like giving melo a NTC so carmelo would take less than the max to give the knicks more cap space after the 2nd year of his contract ...

cap space is good , using that cap space to sign aaron afflalo , not so good

melo being schrewd negotiated a trade kicker to give him back the money if he were to ever allow a trade, but until he allows it he is a knick and the only to get rid of him with out his permission is to cut him and pay him every red cent he is owed .

Melo and his agent should be applauded for that deal alone. Leon Rose is one of the best in the game.

It's likely going to be a very long time until we see a NTC handed out again for anybody but a top 2 or 3 talent.

[Greenie]

We're rebuilding, just start Kuz at SF.

Phil threw him under the bus too.

He loves Lance though.

Noah
KP
Lance
Lee
Rose

[dakomish23]

Who's starting at SF?

it doesn't really matter since we're trying to build something. and, since anyone they have will be a better defender------> the team defense for the starters will be much better without rose and melo out there together.

and, when dad melo comes in off the bench as a 6th man, he can devastate *their* bench, score points more efficiently, and help the knicks build leads or make comebacks as the case may be.

we need to establish a defensive identity which can then be taken on the road as we try to become a legitimate playoff team, since defense travels.

i think this is a GREAT scenario for both melo and the knicks, so please be kind and don't try and kill my buzz.

You want Lance starting don't you?

Noah
KP
Lance
Lee
Rose

I like his premise. I just don't think we have the roster to make it work.

We do have a roster that could make a Melo KP 4/5 combo work though IMO.

[Greenie]

its hilarious in a way , according to phil melo is the reason the knicks suck
despite the fact the knicks are 2-16 in the games melo has missed the last 2 seasons

as someone already said melo is a scapegoat to cover up for phil's mistakes

mistakes like giving melo a NTC so carmelo would take less than the max to give the knicks more cap space after the 2nd year of his contract ...

cap space is good , using that cap space to sign aaron afflalo , not so good

melo being schrewd negotiated a trade kicker to give him back the money if he were to ever allow a trade, but until he allows it he is a knick and the only to get rid of him with out his permission is to cut him and pay him every red cent he is owed .

Melo and his agent should be applauded for that deal alone. Leon Rose is one of the best in the game.

It's likely going to be a very long time until we see a NTC handed out again for anybody but a top 2 or 3 talent.

It's hard as fuq to qualify for one.