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Post#41 » by KidPistol » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:01 pm

The Lob City era is officially over.

I'm sad.
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Post#42 » by NoStatsGuy » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:21 pm

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RottenApple wrote:what do you say if melo gets baught out and joins the rockets for the vet min? would you guys like that? comming in peace, just to check on how you, the fans, like carmelo. i just read that might be in melos plans. dont know if legit so its just hypthetical

I thought Carmelo and D'Antoni basically hated one another



yea thats why i was shocked to read it at first. but then the situation is totally different, mike had nothing to work with in new york and the situation was bad, we were loosing and everything. i wonder if it was just blown up by the media now
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Post#43 » by DoItALL9 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:23 pm

KidPistol wrote:The Lob City era is officially over.

I'm sad.

Blame Doc.

"New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no," Eaves added. "That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team."
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Post#44 » by pageC4 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:54 pm

Hey guys,
Long time Clippers fan. Congratulations on acquiring Chris Paul. As you may guess, the trade has garnered mixed emotion among Clippers fans, but I myself am incredibly happy about it. I have been a season ticket holder now for over 4 years, so I have watched the Clippers and Chris Paul excessively. Let me know if you guys have questions about CP3. I know his strengths and weaknesses, and can break down his style of play pretty well.
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Post#45 » by zapatasblood » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:47 pm

Can't say I'm excited since the Spurs are the better team. I just hope we somehow get PG.


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Post#47 » by OrlandoHouston » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:27 am

Can someone explain the financial incentive of CP3 opting in and being traded versus being signed by us straight up?

B/c thats the only reason I can think of as to why we didn't try to package Beverly/Lou/Dekker for a first round pick (to a different team w/ cap space). Hell, I don't understand how the Clippers had enough leverage to get a first round pick from us??
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Post#48 » by moofs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:04 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
KidPistol wrote:The Lob City era is officially over.

I'm sad.

Blame Doc.

"New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no," Eaves added. "That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team."


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Post#49 » by DoItALL9 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:35 pm

OrlandoHouston wrote:Can someone explain the financial incentive of CP3 opting in and being traded versus being signed by us straight up?

B/c thats the only reason I can think of as to why we didn't try to package Beverly/Lou/Dekker for a first round pick (to a different team w/ cap space). Hell, I don't understand how the Clippers had enough leverage to get a first round pick from us??

He can now sign a 5 year $200+ million dollar deal with Houston next summer. Otherwise he could've only signed for about 4 years $150M this summer.

The Rockets did it to ensure they got CP3. No other team even got to get in front of him this way. Maybe the clippers knew that 5th year was truly important to CP3. That's the only leverage I can imagine they had. There are rumors they wouldn't give it to him and it factored into his decision to leave them. The Timing was against Houston, in their mind anyway.
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Post#50 » by KiDdFrESh » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:36 pm

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Yet our window is larger than it was before we got Christopher.
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Post#51 » by K_chile22 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:59 pm

OrlandoHouston wrote:Can someone explain the financial incentive of CP3 opting in and being traded versus being signed by us straight up?

B/c thats the only reason I can think of as to why we didn't try to package Beverly/Lou/Dekker for a first round pick (to a different team w/ cap space). Hell, I don't understand how the Clippers had enough leverage to get a first round pick from us??

This season his cap hit is over ten mill smaller, and this way the Rockets have the MLE (8.4 mil) and the BAE (3.2 mil) to use to fill out the roster as an over the cap team. Otherwise the Rockets would have had to send out similar to clear the capspace (Anderson would've likely taken the pick, Harrell, and seller to dump, then Lou would have to be dumped) and not had those exceptions to fill the roster out
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Post#52 » by ag3 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:19 pm

Paul, Wade, Lebron and Melo all could be free agents after next season. They have all said they want to play together at the end of their careers.

If it happens, it will happen after next season. Yes, Paul will try and get a 5yr extension after this season, but trust me, he opted in so that he could be a free agent at the same time as Lebron, Wade and Melo.
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Post#53 » by Mr. E » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:30 pm

According to Morey just now on 790 this was not the "ace up the sleeve" he had mentioned. The Clipper offer came as a surprise to the Rockets and they pounced on it as it was actually better for their flexibility.

Morey isn't perfect, but it is nice to have a GM who is quick on his feet and can adapt (mostly because he's planned things well).
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Post#54 » by Dupp » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:34 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
KidPistol wrote:The Lob City era is officially over.

I'm sad.

Blame Doc.

"New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no," Eaves added. "That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team."


If that's true that's insane in every possible way. That deal is truely awful for the Knicks. Rejecting that is incompetence at the highest level.
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Post#55 » by PocketRockets » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:37 pm

Can't wait for that ace. Prob makes the team more attractive as we now have a certified passing PG that doesn't mind deferring to the hot guy. I felt harden did a good job early in games but at times he did take bad shots/decisions. CP3 has enough clout to say, James I got this.
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Post#56 » by TMU » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:50 pm

Mr. E wrote:According to Morey just now on 790 this was not the "ace up the sleeve" he had mentioned. The Clipper offer came as a surprise to the Rockets and they pounced on it as it was actually better for their flexibility.

Morey isn't perfect, but it is nice to have a GM who is quick on his feet and can adapt (mostly because he's planned things well).


Yep. He saw an opportunity and took immediate actions to make it happen. I swear people always find a way to devalue his efforts whenever possible.
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Post#57 » by DoItALL9 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:24 pm

Dupp wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:
KidPistol wrote:The Lob City era is officially over.

I'm sad.

Blame Doc.

"New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no," Eaves added. "That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team."


If that's true that's insane in every possible way. That deal is truely awful for the Knicks. Rejecting that is incompetence at the highest level.

I've never had any problems with Doc the coach or GM. People give him a really hard time. I think he is a fine coach etc. but if that's true it's inexcusable imo.
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Post#58 » by moofs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:15 pm

Dupp wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:
KidPistol wrote:The Lob City era is officially over.

I'm sad.

Blame Doc.

"New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no," Eaves added. "That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team."


If that's true that's insane in every possible way. That deal is truely awful for the Knicks. Rejecting that is incompetence at the highest level.


Incompetence for whom?
Austin Rivers is making 11 million dollars.
Sure, the Knicks would have gotten fleeced and the Clippers would have made out like bandits, but this way, Doc and the Rivers family makes out like bandits, "and nothing else matterrrssssss!!!!"
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