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Re: Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 

Post#1261 » by Mukesh » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:30 pm

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King_Supreme wrote:Anyone listening to LeBatard right now?

Just turned it on. What did I miss?


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On the local hour, he was basically saying that this FA class isn't worth pursuing and that Riley should go all out for next year's crop.


Maybe we can sign JJ and Waiters for one year deals. If they play better for the full season they can get better contracts next year. Teams would be much more comfortable giving them bigger deals.
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Post#1262 » by Mars » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:31 pm

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Dr_Heat wrote:Blake has all star caliber skills but I don't think we should invest in a player that's injury prone and hasn't played a full season in his NBA career. I just don't want another Mcbob situation where we are paying for a player that's going to be on the sidelines a lot.

HIF wrote:You mean like dion?

Dion has played 70+ games in 3 of his first 5 seasons...

70 games in 2013-14
81 games in 2014-15
78 games in 2015-16



So are you saying that Dion is on a downward trend?

Pas du tout.
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Post#1263 » by EMC5466 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:39 pm

King_Supreme wrote:
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King_Supreme wrote:Anyone listening to LeBatard right now?

Just turned it on. What did I miss?


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On the local hour, he was basically saying that this FA class isn't worth pursuing and that Riley should go all out for next year's crop.

Typical Le Batard. He'll say the same thing next year.
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Post#1264 » by Rapaz » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:44 pm

LeBatard est une grosse tête de merde
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Post#1265 » by gom » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:46 pm

King_Supreme wrote:
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King_Supreme wrote:Anyone listening to LeBatard right now?

Just turned it on. What did I miss?


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On the local hour, he was basically saying that this FA class isn't worth pursuing and that Riley should go all out for next year's crop.


He's right in my opinion. I don't want Hayward or Griffin and top market prices. Being the best available players, they will command that price. Supply & Demand.

Next season the dam bursts open and teams will be bidding high on a wider variety of players. We can sign someone to play with Dragic and Hassan.
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Post#1266 » by puppa bear » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:10 pm

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Post#1267 » by Daffy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:10 pm

Next years FA class is trash too

Paul George (LA bound)
LBJ (Not coming here without another star being here)
Westbrook (as great as a talent he is I think he is hard to build around)
Demarcus Cousins (heard he doesn't get along with Whiteside)
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Post#1268 » by Mos_Heat » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:18 pm

King_Supreme wrote:
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King_Supreme wrote:Anyone listening to LeBatard right now?

Just turned it on. What did I miss?


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On the local hour, he was basically saying that this FA class isn't worth pursuing and that Riley should go all out for next year's crop.

next year's is weak too
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Post#1269 » by Wolfy1983 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:21 pm

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EMC5466 wrote:I also don't understand the obsession with JJ and Waiters, they've been disappointments their entire careers except for a three month stretch.


Let's ignore how poorly misused they were on those teams and let's focus on how better they became once Spo found they right line up and system for them to excel. When the hell did Blake Griffin become Tim Duncan all of a sudden? Some of you people popping your loads over his showtime dunks.

The same can be said for Blake though? Who is to say that he wont blossom in our system? Not trying to be a contrarian to your case for JJ as I really like him but blake has been solid his whole career. hes dissapointed with injuries sure but you cant blame the clippers failing in the playoffs all on him. CP3 is another one that has never done squat in the post season. I would take Hayward first, Blake plan B and JJ/Dion plan C



Blake was misused in LA? The way some here talk about him, you'd think Doc did a fabulous job. If CP3 didn't get the best out of him than I don't know how Miami can.
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Post#1270 » by Sgt P » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:23 pm

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Post#1271 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:23 pm

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Post#1272 » by balla345 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:26 pm

Blake is the best FA that we can probably get in the next 2 years. What I actually like about him is that he plays his heart out and will be a natural heat player on his first day here.
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Post#1273 » by heater4life » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:31 pm

When Tjs contract jumps up to 19M next season we won't have space to sign anyone of substance.

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Post#1274 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:37 pm

Wolfy1983 wrote:
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Wolfy1983 wrote:
Let's ignore how poorly misused they were on those teams and let's focus on how better they became once Spo found they right line up and system for them to excel. When the hell did Blake Griffin become Tim Duncan all of a sudden? Some of you people popping your loads over his showtime dunks.

The same can be said for Blake though? Who is to say that he wont blossom in our system? Not trying to be a contrarian to your case for JJ as I really like him but blake has been solid his whole career. hes dissapointed with injuries sure but you cant blame the clippers failing in the playoffs all on him. CP3 is another one that has never done squat in the post season. I would take Hayward first, Blake plan B and JJ/Dion plan C



Blake was misused in LA? The way some here talk about him, you'd think Doc did a fabulous job. If CP3 didn't get the best out of him than I don't know how Miami can.


This couldn't be further from the truth. Clips run a slower system, and one that revolves around the ball starting in the PG's hand. Blake is a point forward who is much better in transition and would probably be better is a system like ours that allows him to get a rebound and immediately push the ball down the court.

Blakes game is very similar to JJ's. I could actually see Blake thriving in our system.
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Post#1275 » by Wolfy1983 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:41 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
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Altered_Beast wrote:The same can be said for Blake though? Who is to say that he wont blossom in our system? Not trying to be a contrarian to your case for JJ as I really like him but blake has been solid his whole career. hes dissapointed with injuries sure but you cant blame the clippers failing in the playoffs all on him. CP3 is another one that has never done squat in the post season. I would take Hayward first, Blake plan B and JJ/Dion plan C



Blake was misused in LA? The way some here talk about him, you'd think Doc did a fabulous job. If CP3 didn't get the best out of him than I don't know how Miami can.


This couldn't be further from the truth. Clips run a slower system, and one that revolves around the ball starting in the PG's hand. Blake is a point forward who is much better in transition and would probably be better is a system like ours that allows him to get a rebound and immediately push the ball down the court.

Blakes game is very similar to JJ's. I could actually see Blake thriving in our system.


Still not a fan of the guys game for several reasons and his injury history is a concern. I'd rather resign a guy like JJ who already knows how the system works and thrived last year under it.
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Post#1276 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:43 pm

Wolfy1983 wrote:
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Blake was misused in LA? The way some here talk about him, you'd think Doc did a fabulous job. If CP3 didn't get the best out of him than I don't know how Miami can.


This couldn't be further from the truth. Clips run a slower system, and one that revolves around the ball starting in the PG's hand. Blake is a point forward who is much better in transition and would probably be better is a system like ours that allows him to get a rebound and immediately push the ball down the court.

Blakes game is very similar to JJ's. I could actually see Blake thriving in our system.


Still not a fan of the guys game for several reasons and his injury history is a concern. I'd rather resign a guy like JJ who already knows how the system works and thrived last year under it.


Totally agree on the injury history. However, I'm very interested to hear what these several reasons about his specific game are that you don't like.
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Post#1277 » by Daffy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:44 pm

Wolfy1983 wrote:
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Wolfy1983 wrote:

Blake was misused in LA? The way some here talk about him, you'd think Doc did a fabulous job. If CP3 didn't get the best out of him than I don't know how Miami can.


This couldn't be further from the truth. Clips run a slower system, and one that revolves around the ball starting in the PG's hand. Blake is a point forward who is much better in transition and would probably be better is a system like ours that allows him to get a rebound and immediately push the ball down the court.

Blakes game is very similar to JJ's. I could actually see Blake thriving in our system.


You do realize it took JJ signing with us in order to thrive in our system and get familiar with it?

Still not a fan of the guys game for several reasons and his injury history is a concern. I'd rather resign a guy like JJ who already knows how the system works and thrived last year under it.
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Post#1278 » by greg4012 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:59 pm

Wolfy1983 wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:
Wolfy1983 wrote:

Blake was misused in LA? The way some here talk about him, you'd think Doc did a fabulous job. If CP3 didn't get the best out of him than I don't know how Miami can.


This couldn't be further from the truth. Clips run a slower system, and one that revolves around the ball starting in the PG's hand. Blake is a point forward who is much better in transition and would probably be better is a system like ours that allows him to get a rebound and immediately push the ball down the court.

Blakes game is very similar to JJ's. I could actually see Blake thriving in our system.


Still not a fan of the guys game for several reasons and his injury history is a concern. I'd rather resign a guy like JJ who already knows how the system works and thrived last year under it.


We don't have a set in stone system. Our system is based on our personnel
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Post#1279 » by heatwillbeback » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:00 pm

Writers here seem to assume that if we get Hayward we would want JJ and that if we get Blake we would want Dion.

I actually hope we get Hayward and Dion. I want Hayward to be a stretch 4 next to Whiteside. I think traditional pfs are irrelevant in today's NBA and guys like Garnett, Duncan etc are all centers in today's game.

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Post#1280 » by Wolfy1983 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:15 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
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JustiseForMiami wrote:
This couldn't be further from the truth. Clips run a slower system, and one that revolves around the ball starting in the PG's hand. Blake is a point forward who is much better in transition and would probably be better is a system like ours that allows him to get a rebound and immediately push the ball down the court.

Blakes game is very similar to JJ's. I could actually see Blake thriving in our system.


Still not a fan of the guys game for several reasons and his injury history is a concern. I'd rather resign a guy like JJ who already knows how the system works and thrived last year under it.


Totally agree on the injury history. However, I'm very interested to hear what these several reasons about his specific game are that you don't like.


I don't like his footwook. His post game has issues at times. I don't like his jumper. He is not as good of a defender as JJ and if he is, I have yet to see video on it. He doesn't show up in crunch time. This is not a guy I want to give the max too. I'd rather resign Waiters and JJ. With Blake we can fill the void at PF, but we lose a reliable 2 guard in Waiter. Who is going to replace him? Do you want J-Rich to fill that spot? No thanks.
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