2017 Hawks Offseason Thread

Post #261 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:29 pm

Post #262 » by **ATL Boy** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:47 pm

macd-gm wrote:I don't know. Not signing Sap to a 3 year deal where the 3rd year is team option just seems like a missed opportunity to keep talent. Talent that could be useful in trade later. The only explanation is that we are planning to be at the bottom of the league for a couple of years. I think the newer hawks fans will bolt and we'll be on a 5-10 year quest to build the brand....again.

This is my view as well. I was dumbfounded when I saw the team option aspect of that contract. Millsap will be at an all star level for the duration of the guaranteed portion of that contract.

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Post #263 » by **ATL Boy** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 8:30 am

How does a potential Crawford buyout affect our cap? We lose out on $16 mil of cap space with this S&T but do we get it back if we buy JC out of his contract?

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thamadkant · Post #264 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 9:13 am

Hi Hawk fans.

Just want to confirm exactly what Hawks are doing?

Are they going the 76ers way of tanking for a star?
Are they saving space for FAs?

I mean... Damn, from a 60 win team a couple of seasons ago to an entirely new roster with mostly unproven players save for a couple.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #265 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 9:31 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

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Reed would make a lot of sense.

Other option: Moreland (cheap)

Morse Code · Post #266 » by **Morse Code** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 11:04 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:TOR apparently shopping Valunciunis(sp?) in a salary dump. Fit? Thoughts?

I'm definitely in favor of acquiring Jonas V. But don't want us to pay much to get him in trade.

Can't say much for his fit with the roster still in flux. But he's a young, talented big that can put up solid numbers in a euro-style offense.

I have no idea on how he can J Collins would mesh in a front court together. But JV is a piece worth getting and figuring out the rest later.

NOTE: With so much in flux, I wouldn't risk either the Minny pick or the CLE pick in trade for him.

Well you're in luck because we are basically moving him to save ourselves from a ridiculous tax bill. Masai would want as little salary coming back as possible. We are reportedly trying to do the same with Cory Joseph, and Demarre Carroll as well.

MaceCase · Post #267 » by **MaceCase** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 11:47 am

ATL Boy wrote:How does a potential Crawford buyout affect our cap? We lose out on $16 mil of cap space with this S&T but do we get it back if we buy JC out of his contract?

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Depends on the terms of the buyout. Unlikely that Jamal is willing to forego much of the money just to get out of Atlanta though. That and his contract is a nice trade chip for a team trying to shave future salary.

jayu70 · Post #268 » by **jayu70** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 12:05 pm

1UPZ wrote:Hi Hawk fans.

Just want to confirm exactly what Hawks are doing?

Are they going the 76ers way of tanking for a star?
Are they saving space for FAs?

I mean... Damn, from a 60 win team a couple of seasons ago to an entirely new roster with mostly unproven players save for a couple.

Hawks are rebuilding but I don't think it's Philly style per se. Philly was trading off their young NBA vets for picks.

Post #269 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 1:28 pm

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Radioblacktive1 · Post #270 » by **Radioblacktive1** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 11:49 pm

Think we should make a play at Jamychal Green?

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JamesConway · Post #271 » by **JamesConway** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 12:12 am

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jayu70 · Post #272 » by **jayu70** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 12:28 am

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Spud2nique · Post #273 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 1:23 am

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I love Crowder. I think his dad played for us in the late 80's...tough hard nosed dude..but I hate trading with the Celts for obvious reasons lol

Spud2nique · Post #274 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 1:35 am

Crowder has 3 years and 21 million remaining and he's only 27...yes please.

Spud2nique · Post #275 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 2:07 am

Spud2nique wrote:
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I love Crowder. I think his dad played for us in the late 80's...tough hard nosed dude..but I hate trading with the Celts for obvious reasons lol

My mistake I guess his dad didn't play for us. Hmmm...somebody's dad did..lol

kg01 · Post #276 » by **kg01** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 3:00 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
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I love Crowder. I think his dad played for us in the late 80's...tough hard nosed dude..but I hate trading with the Celts for obvious reasons lol

My mistake I guess his dad didn't play for us. Hmmm...somebody's dad did..lol

You're thinking of Wes Matthews. Pretty sure hus dad played with Nique for a bit.

Spud2nique · Post #277 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 3:50 am

kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

I love Crowder. I think his dad played for us in the late 80's...tough hard nosed dude..but I hate trading with the Celts for obvious reasons lol

My mistake I guess his dad didn't play for us. Hmmm...somebody's dad did..lol

You're thinking of Wes Matthews. Pretty sure hus dad played with Nique for a bit.

Thank you!!!! Oh maaaan, it's been a long week.

Post #278 » by **ATL Boy** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 7:31 am

I'd love to bring over Crowder, but first want to see how much he'd cost in a trade.

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Post #279 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 11:20 am

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Spud2nique · Post #280 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 11:52 am

I'd really like Jae Crowder at the right price. Preferably meaning I'd not want to give up any of our first picks next year...definitely not our own pick or Minnesota's pick...maybe Muscala+the 2018 Rockets pick???

Also would love to get my hand on Willie Reed. Not sure how the market is for him but I'd be willing to do a 3 year 27-33 million for him.