We need shooting. Who do we get?

[thinktank]

So dump Aldrich for Milos.

[prefuse73]

I don't think there is any team that would just absorb Aldrich for cap. Centers are dying in front of our eyes.

[minimus]

Yes, but they can only be signed for minimum.

You lose the right to pay 20% on top of their previous salary when they are renounced to make room for Teague and Gibson. This may cause Rush to walk to a bigger payday than the 9 year vet minimum of $2.1 million. Rush made $3.5 million last season.

Rush and Casspi won't actually be renounced until the paper work with Teague's and Gibson's signature's can be submitted to the league office. It's sort of simultaneous, but one preceeds the other, technically, by a millisecond.

Crap... I thought we can afford 4.2 mil to Rush which is a fair deal. To Casspi I'd offer only a vet.min. So Thibs better to start hunting player who are willing to accept minimum offers.

Rush is not worth 4.2 million period!

In comparison with Jordan Hill and Adrian Payne he is worth every cent.

[MN7725]

I don't think there is any team that would just absorb Aldrich for cap. Centers are dying in front of our eyes.

I don't think any team would for Dieng either

Guys like Valuncunias and Vucevic have been available forever and can't be moved

[Worm Guts]

So dump Aldrich for Milos.

As much as I would love to take a shot at Milos I have hard time spending resources on a backup PG when we have no backup wings.

[Loyal[]Wolf]

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Looks like we are still after him.

[KGdaBom]

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Looks like we are still after him.

I've never been a fan, but based on last years stats he would be a bargain for the room exception. Shot over 40% from 3 on good volume.

[Howard Cosell]

Now that Gordon Hayward is signing with Celtics it's time for Thibs to get on phone with Ainge and offer...

Deing + 2018 1st RD Pick (OKC) for Crowder + Bradley or Smart.

C's need a BIG

Let's go!!!

[Maefteda]

Celtics need to trade someone to fit Hayward's max in there. Crowder being the most likely one. There are probably a couple of deals in place already, so there might be something announced later today.

[shrink]

I don't think there is any team that would just absorb Aldrich for cap. Centers are dying in front of our eyes.

I don't think any team would for Dieng either

Guys like Valuncunias and Vucevic have been available forever and can't be moved

I would make a small distinction.

I agree that the market for traditional 5's is drying up, as many teams go smaller. It's nice to have a big on the end of your bench when match ups demand it, but now you can probably get them pretty cheaply (and when we signed Cole in 2016, his contract WAS "cheaply.") So guys like Valuncunias, Vucevic, Kanter, and Okafor are not worth what hey once were. Those guys can score in the post, but they can't switch, get out to a three point shooter, or most importantly, defend the rim.

Cole is smart, can defend a little, play some pick and role, and protect the rim a little. He isn't as immovable as the other guys because he has a use. I agree that a team wouldn't absorb him into cap space, but he has a use with a team's plan, and so I think he isn't immovable like the other guys.

As for Dieng, $14-17 for a traditional center is a lot right now, but Dieng does so many important little things, that I don't consider him a bad deal. I don't think Taj is going to start over Gorgui. And Dieng is a particularly good fit for what Thibs is trying to do. I wouldn't mind seeing the wolves get off his money, but I think to Thibs and his two-big line ups, he has more value to the Wolves than to most other teams, and is unlikely to be traded.

[KGdaBom]

I don't think there is any team that would just absorb Aldrich for cap. Centers are dying in front of our eyes.

I don't think any team would for Dieng either

Guys like Valuncunias and Vucevic have been available forever and can't be moved

I would make a small distinction.

I agree that the market for traditional 5's is drying up, as many teams go smaller. It's nice to have a big on the end of your bench when match ups demand it, but now you can probably get them pretty cheaply (and when we signed Cole in 2016, his contract WAS "cheaply.") So guys like Valuncunias, Vucevic, Kanter, and Okafor are not worth what hey once were. Those guys can score in the post, but they can't switch, get out to a three point shooter, or most importantly, defend the rim.

Cole is smart, can defend a little, play some pick and role, and protect the rim a little. He isn't as immovable as the other guys because he has a use. I agree that a team wouldn't absorb him into cap space, but he has a use with a team's plan, and so I think he isn't immovable like the other guys.

As for Dieng, $14-17 for a traditional center is a lot right now, but Dieng does so many important little things, that I don't consider him a bad deal. I don't think Taj is going to start over Gorgui. And Dieng is a particularly good fit for what Thibs is trying to do. I wouldn't mind seeing the wolves get off his money, but I think to Thibs and his two-big line ups, he has more value to the Wolves than to most other teams, and is unlikely to be traded.

We all know that teams are going with more small ball lineups. However, there is a very true saying in sports. Big and talented beats small and talented most of the time. Durant would not be as successful as he is if he were 6'5" instead of 6'9". If LeBron was 220 instead of 250 he wouldn't do as well either. So if a team can put bigger lineups with as much or more talent than smaller lineups the bigger team is going to win most of the time.

[Loyal[]Wolf]

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Looks like we are still after him.

I've never been a fan, but based on last years stats he would be a bargain for the room exception. Shot over 40% from 3 on good volume.

Career 37.6% from 3PT.

[shrink]

I would make a small distinction.

I agree that the market for traditional 5's is drying up, as many teams go smaller. It's nice to have a big on the end of your bench when match ups demand it, but now you can probably get them pretty cheaply (and when we signed Cole in 2016, his contract WAS "cheaply.") So guys like Valuncunias, Vucevic, Kanter, and Okafor are not worth what hey once were. Those guys can score in the post, but they can't switch, get out to a three point shooter, or most importantly, defend the rim.

Cole is smart, can defend a little, play some pick and role, and protect the rim a little. He isn't as immovable as the other guys because he has a use. I agree that a team wouldn't absorb him into cap space, but he has a use with a team's plan, and so I think he isn't immovable like the other guys.

As for Dieng, $14-17 for a traditional center is a lot right now, but Dieng does so many important little things, that I don't consider him a bad deal. I don't think Taj is going to start over Gorgui. And Dieng is a particularly good fit for what Thibs is trying to do. I wouldn't mind seeing the wolves get off his money, but I think to Thibs and his two-big line ups, he has more value to the Wolves than to most other teams, and is unlikely to be traded.

We all know that teams are going with more small ball lineups. However, there is a very true saying in sports. Big and talented beats small and talented most of the time. Durant would not be as successful as he is if he were 6'5" instead of 6'9". If LeBron was 220 instead of 250 he wouldn't do as well either. So if a team can put bigger lineups with as much or more talent than smaller lineups the bigger team is going to win most of the time.

I agree with you. In a game of match-ups, being more talented trumps all. This is why contracts would be huge for the best players, and necessitated the max deal rules.

[KGdaBom]

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Looks like we are still after him.

I've never been a fan, but based on last years stats he would be a bargain for the room exception. Shot over 40% from 3 on good volume.

Career 37.6% from 3PT.

That's solid. However, maybe on a team like ours that can get him more open shots than he got In LA he can keep up the 40%. Even though he annoys me, I would have no problem with us signing him.

[Biggsohnasty]

I'm shocked that Thibs would want Nick Young. Unless it's just playing in L.A where every little dumb thing gets magnified and all we hear about Young is the clown show but there's a lot more to him that goes unnoticed maybe.

On paper his shooting can fit. Does he guard anybody? I've always felt like Young is just a player who makes losing plays. Maybe there's a lot more to him though.

I'd prefer they take the route of sign two wings - one vet and one youngster.

Vets I'd like (for room exception most likely): Afflalo, Miles, Sefolosha, Dunleavy, Young, Jeff Green
Youngsters I'd take a shot at (minimum deal as 4th wing): McDaniels, Young, Bullock, Jerami Grant

I also don't think it's wise to just hand the backup PG keys to Jones. I like him as a third guard but there a number of professional backup PGs that I'd rather pay to run a second unit than even a true backup wing. Lots of teams play multiple PGs on the floor.

If you have a bench of 'backup PG', 'Backup Wing', Bjelica and Dieng you can stagger your rotations and maybe play Teague and backup Pg at the same time.

Guys I'd look at to either be the backup or at least compete with Jones and serve as a parachute include Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, Aaron Brooks, Sessions, Stuckey

[Ace_Rockola]

For a backup wing, I just don't care about defense. The best defender in the league does what? Drop a 40% 3pt shooter to 37%? Make them work a little harder? They're going to score anyway, we need someone who will hit shots and keep pace with them.

[C-Dub47]

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Looks like we are still after him.

Sign me up. Prefer Miles, but he'd fit the bill.

[Biggsohnasty]

For a backup wing, I just don't care about defense. The best defender in the league does what? Drop a 40% 3pt shooter to 37%? Make them work a little harder? They're going to score anyway, we need someone who will hit shots and keep pace with them.

Depends on what you want in your backup

If your backup wing is playing 20 minutes a night, a sieve on defense can tank a game for you.

If Butler or Wiggins sustains an injury and miss a couple weeks - backup wing has to start - if they are a sieve defensively you are now in big trouble.

They obviously aren't going to find an elite shooter+defender at this point but if they can find someone who is professional on both ends, I'd take that over a guy who's 'elite' (relative to what is available at this point) at one or the other.

The team was atrocious defensively - adding two good defenders isn't going to suddenly fix that. Yes they need more shooting. They also need a roster that will get more stops.

[prefuse73]

Hayward now on his way to Boston. Dieng and Pick for Crowder and Bradley would be nice if at all possible... I don't know. Sign Udoh into our room exception. Dunleavy for vet min.

Towns - Udoh - Aldrich
Gibson - Bjelica
Butler - Crowder - Dunleavy
Wiggins - (Butler / Bradley)
Teague - Bradley - Jones

[Biggsohnasty]

^ that would be amazing thought I'd be shocked if Boston didn't have better offers for both Bradley and Crowder.

Killer small ball lineups there too with either four of Bradley/Butler/Wiggins/Crowder/Teague on the floor late game plus KAT.