Knicks sign Hardaway

Polk377 · Post #1181 » by **Polk377** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:31 am

AmazingJason wrote:
stuporman wrote:Dotson >

Is Hardaway even as good as Dotson right now?

Watch on YouTube

I kid, I kid

Them together though?....they can both look great in Hornacek's uptempo system.

BrOnXKing1 · Post #1182 » by **BrOnXKing1** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:32 am

Tron Carter wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
this isn't joakim noah bad so lets do it

lol this contact aint even in the same ballpark as noah's. phil gave noah the worst contract in the league.

Yup Nosh was coming off two injury plagued seasons and was on the decline. It is the worst contract in the league.

Hardaway is improving and will be at his peak next 4 years

levendis · Post #1183 » by **levendis** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:32 am

Greenie wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
levendis wrote:Getting rid of Lee is a must if the Hawks don't match

Again we won't be negotiating from a position of strength.

Sure we will.
We can simply keep both.

KP
Melo
Lee
Timmy
Frank

See how easy that was?

Having close to 30 mill committed to 2G possition every year is incredibly dumb. Dotson would be a fine backup 2.

Yankeeknickfan · Post #1184 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:32 am

Greenie wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:Timmy improved, but not $71 Million Dollars worth of improvement!

Yeah.

Look around the league.

They would've been better off giving JJ Reddick 2 yrs, or giving him a lot for one, if they wanted a SG

Marty McFly · Post #1185 » by **Marty McFly** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:33 am

knicks need to change their team name from the Knickerbockers to the Culottes. this team is so **** culo.

robillionaire · Post #1186 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:33 am

BrOnXKing1 wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
this isn't joakim noah bad so lets do it

lol this contact aint even in the same ballpark as noah's. phil gave noah the worst contract in the league.

Yup Nosh was coming off two injury plagued seasons and was on the decline. It is the worst contract in the league.

Hardaway is improving and will be at his peak next 4 years

I would say Chandler Parsons is far worse but Noah's is up there as worst in the league.

AmazingJason · Post #1187 » by **AmazingJason** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:33 am

Polk377 wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
stuporman wrote:Dotson >

Is Hardaway even as good as Dotson right now?

Watch on YouTube

I kid, I kid

Them together though?....they can both look great in Hornacek's uptempo system.

That system relies on PG play and we have none. Baker is a 3rd-string combo guard, we have no idea if Frank can even play PG in the NBA, and Randle should never be the PG.

If we were acquiring players for Hornacek's system, it seems like it would have made much more sense to draft Dennis Smith Jr.

DrCoach · Post #1188 » by **DrCoach** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:35 am

Hardaway had a PER of 3.8 in the playoff...3.8

xNewYorkMadex · Post #1189 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:35 am

On a positive note, I do like Timmy's work ethic.

I dont consider him that good of a player, but he did rebound last yr. Showed some signs in his rookie yr, then took a giant step back in his 2nd season. He was a pretty terrible defender when he was with us. He did improve a bit with Atlanta, but I dont think he was a near 18 million dollar improvement.

He needs to continue shooting effciciently from the floor. 45% from the floor is pretty solid for a guard. Does need to improve his 3pt percentage, its too average. He should be near 40% from 3 to be more impactful.

Defense will be the key for Timmy though. Its the main reason why I disliked him when he was here. It was really that bad. Just be average on that end of the floor, just be average. All im asking for.

whocares1 · Post #1190 » by **whocares1** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

shtolky wrote:When the Hawks realize a sg in this mold is going to cost you that type of money, and the fact that he's only 25, I think they match it.

They already have Bazemore locked up for big money and he's really not a 3. Atlanta doesn't necessarily draw big crowds either so I'm not sure they'd want to add that type of money to a player that doesn't move the needle in Atlanta. It's not like he was a fan favorite. At this point I'm just hopeful he continues to get better in a Knicks jersey.

ezmoney707 · Post #1191 » by **ezmoney707** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

Btw the Hawks gonna match this deal I can't see them letting him walk knowing this type of deal was possible.

YaMomsEx · Post #1192 » by **YaMomsEx** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

THJR & Cleanthony both played well I'm summer league...... Give the kid Dotson some time b4 you crown him please smh

nedleeds · Post #1193 » by **nedleeds** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

God please **** match and save us from ourselves ... Let Dodson play, lose, draft good players. THJ is a chucker.

whocares1 · Post #1194 » by **whocares1** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

shtolky wrote:When the Hawks realize a sg in this mold is going to cost you that type of money, and the fact that he's only 25, I think they match it.

They already have Bazemore locked up for big money and he's really not a 3. Atlanta doesn't necessarily draw big crowds either so I'm not sure they'd want to add that type of money for a player that doesn't move the needle in Atlanta. It's not like he was a fan favorite. At this point I'm just hopeful he continues to get better in a Knicks jersey.

Adelheid · Post #1195 » by **Adelheid** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

Por pabor save us!

Quiet-Dude · Post #1196 » by **Quiet-Dude** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 am

Hahahaha.

DrCoach · Post #1197 » by **DrCoach** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:37 am

xNewYorkMadex wrote:On a positive note, I do like Timmy's work ethic.

I dont consider him that good of a player, but he did rebound last yr. Showed some signs in his rookie yr, then took a giant step back in his 2nd season. He was a pretty terrible defender when he was with us. He did improve a bit with Atlanta, but I dont think he was a near 18 million dollar improvement.

He needs to continue shooting effciciently from the floor. 45% from the floor is pretty solid for a guard. Does need to improve his 3pt percentage, its too average. He should be near 40% from 3 to be more impactful.

Defense will be the key for Timmy though. Its the main reason why I disliked him when he was here. It was really that bad. Just be average on that end of the floor, just be average. All im asking for.

Rebound ??? He avg 2.8

xNewYorkMadex · Post #1198 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:38 am

DrCoach wrote:
xNewYorkMadex wrote:On a positive note, I do like Timmy's work ethic.

I dont consider him that good of a player, but he did rebound last yr. Showed some signs in his rookie yr, then took a giant step back in his 2nd season. He was a pretty terrible defender when he was with us. He did improve a bit with Atlanta, but I dont think he was a near 18 million dollar improvement.

He needs to continue shooting effciciently from the floor. 45% from the floor is pretty solid for a guard. Does need to improve his 3pt percentage, its too average. He should be near 40% from 3 to be more impactful.

Defense will be the key for Timmy though. Its the main reason why I disliked him when he was here. It was really that bad. Just be average on that end of the floor, just be average. All im asking for.

Rebound ??? He avg 2.8

Nah I meant rebound from the last time he played for us. Not actually rebound.

AmazingJason · Post #1199 » by **AmazingJason** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:39 am

DrCoach wrote:
xNewYorkMadex wrote:On a positive note, I do like Timmy's work ethic.

I dont consider him that good of a player, but he did rebound last yr. Showed some signs in his rookie yr, then took a giant step back in his 2nd season. He was a pretty terrible defender when he was with us. He did improve a bit with Atlanta, but I dont think he was a near 18 million dollar improvement.

He needs to continue shooting effciciently from the floor. 45% from the floor is pretty solid for a guard. Does need to improve his 3pt percentage, its too average. He should be near 40% from 3 to be more impactful.

Defense will be the key for Timmy though. Its the main reason why I disliked him when he was here. It was really that bad. Just be average on that end of the floor, just be average. All im asking for.

Rebound ??? He avg 2.8

I think he meant rebound like he bounced back, not rebound as in grabbing boards in a game :lol:

whocares1 · Post #1200 » by **whocares1** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:39 am

Yankeeknickfan wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:Timmy improved, but not $71 Million Dollars worth of improvement!

Yeah.

Look around the league.

They would've been better off giving JJ Reddick 2 yrs, or giving him a lot for one, if they wanted a SG

JJ doesn't make sense. Tim is 25 and hasn't reached his prime yet. He's young and athletic and could fit in Hornacek's offense.