2017 Offseason Thread

MartinToVaught · Post #461 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:03 pm

MartinToVaught · Post #462 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:12 pm

donemilio21 · Post #463 » by **donemilio21** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:20 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Now I'm actually interested in how we got beat out for Avery Bradley.

And I'm only interested in doing it to hate on Doc.
If Jerry suggested that we don't do the deal, it's fine.
/greenfont

we couldnt have struck a deal without a 3rd team getting involved. They had to shed around $3million in salary and we couldn't really take on more than a couple million.
not to mention we dont really have a player like Morris to offer. They probably would have been interested in Harrell, but salaries wouldnt have worked.

donemilio21 · Post #464 » by **donemilio21** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:23 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:

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is there no chance we can keep Mo Buckets?
DJ, Reed, Harrell are all are pretty bad FT shooters and they can't do anything other than set up screens outside of the paint.
I think I'd rather have a back-up big who can shoot.

nickhx2 · Post #465 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:00 pm

avery bradley would have been a huge get but i don't see how it was possible. we didn't have the assets or the situation to get him.

so basically i blame doc and i thank jerry west we didn't do something dumb like trade 3 first rounders for him.

kidding! maybe.

TucsonClip · Post #466 » by **TucsonClip** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:32 pm

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There doesn't seem to be any market at all for KCP. If he doesn't get an offer sheet and Detroit makes him unrestricted, I'm starting to wonder if he could be had for cheap on a short-term prove-it contract. Of course, knowing the Nets, they'll probably throw some insane offer sheet at him and then be stuck with him for way more than he's worth.

No chance. Hes gonna get paid, even if its only on a one-year deal.

Method28 · Post #467 » by **Method28** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:35 pm

TucsonClip wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:

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There doesn't seem to be any market at all for KCP. If he doesn't get an offer sheet and Detroit makes him unrestricted, I'm starting to wonder if he could be had for cheap on a short-term prove-it contract. Of course, knowing the Nets, they'll probably throw some insane offer sheet at him and then be stuck with him for way more than he's worth.

No chance. Hes gonna get paid, even if its only on a one-year deal.

Agreed. I wouldnt be surprised to see the Lakers, Nets, Hawks etc make a play for him. Decent young piece and the Nets and Hawks are hurting for talent

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MartinToVaught · Post #468 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 6:25 pm

nickhx2 wrote:avery bradley would have been a huge get but i don't see how it was possible. we didn't have the assets or the situation to get him.

The Pistons only had to give up Marcus Morris to get him, so I can't imagine the Celtics' asking price was too high.

MartinToVaught · Post #469 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:25 pm

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Withey is a good shot-blocker and overall rim protector, FWIW.

Forte IV · Post #470 » by **Forte IV** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:35 pm

I prefer Reed over Withey

Post #471 » by **mkwest** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:24 pm

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illastrate · Post #472 » by **illastrate** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:37 pm

nickhx2 wrote:avery bradley would have been a huge get but i don't see how it was possible. we didn't have the assets or the situation to get him.

so basically i blame doc and i thank jerry west we didn't do something dumb like trade 3 first rounders for him.

kidding! maybe.

Actually, the offer was Lou Williams for Bradley and Boston seriously considered it. It was down to us and Detroit. They chose Detroit.

nickhx2 · Post #473 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:50 pm

whoa really? wow. ok now that makes me feel bad

esqtvd · Post #474 » by **esqtvd** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:05 am

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I loved Ray, but the minutes just aren't here for him.

Plus his 3-point shot mysteriously vanished--37.1% before the All-Star break, 10.7% after [I kid you not]! 10.7%??????

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2753/raymond-felton

illastrate · Post #475 » by **illastrate** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:13 am

nickhx2 wrote:whoa really? wow. ok now that makes me feel bad

Yeah, I mean, I get it, Morris is on an insanely cheap at 5M for the next 2 years. But man, a Beverley/Bradley backcourt is the stuff All-Defensive dreams are made of.

Neddy · Post #476 » by **Neddy** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 3:39 am

illastrate wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:whoa really? wow. ok now that makes me feel bad

Yeah, I mean, I get it, Morris is on an insanely cheap at 5M for the next 2 years. But man, a Beverley/Bradley backcourt is the stuff All-Defensive dreams are made of.

yeah, it is nice to dream about, but in the end, we still got Milos with career 3point % at .385 with the last 3 seasons better than 40%, and Patrick beverly with 37.5% in his career. we will be fine with its perimeter catch and shoot. I worry about the overall team defense but not the offense it can generate.

Akklaim1 · Post #477 » by **Akklaim1** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 4:19 am

We lost both our starting and backup PGs this offseason!

Ranma · Post #478 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:26 pm

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Neddy · Post #479 » by **Neddy** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:48 pm

ha, some of those names brought me back some other names from the past.

anybody miss Olden Polynice?

Neddy · Post #480 » by **Neddy** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 7:00 pm

illastrate wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:avery bradley would have been a huge get but i don't see how it was possible. we didn't have the assets or the situation to get him.

so basically i blame doc and i thank jerry west we didn't do something dumb like trade 3 first rounders for him.

kidding! maybe.

Actually, the offer was Lou Williams for Bradley and Boston seriously considered it. It was down to us and Detroit. They chose Detroit.

that would have been huge.

Beverly and Avery would have lock'd em down.