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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1801 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:37 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Didn't know where to put this...

Read on Twitter


Weird ass stats. Hayward was extremely efficient last year on a bad offensive team and isn't on this list? 8th best scorer in the league- behind the likes of Durant, IT... etc. The guy was super good and he ain't even there.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1802 » by Baller1234a » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:39 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Didn't know where to put this...

Read on Twitter

No Horford ?
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1803 » by Disinformation » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:41 pm

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CrowderKeg wrote:Didn't know where to put this...

Read on Twitter


Weird ass stats. Hayward was extremely efficient last year on a bad offensive team and isn't on this list? 8th best scorer in the league- behind the likes of Durant, IT... etc. The guy was super good and he ain't even there.

He's under Beta.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1804 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:46 pm

Disinformation wrote:
Boston34Bg wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Didn't know where to put this...

Read on Twitter


Weird ass stats. Hayward was extremely efficient last year on a bad offensive team and isn't on this list? 8th best scorer in the league- behind the likes of Durant, IT... etc. The guy was super good and he ain't even there.

He's under Beta.


For real tho, if Horfie had a mean bone in his body, he'd be a an All-time player. Bigs like him don't come around too often. I mean he can pass, shoots 2's, 3's, post up, block shots, okay rebounder(was better a few years ago), defends the PnR well... He juts needs aggresiveness, which he lacks at times(and will probably never get). In the Cavs series he scored at will on the block against Love and Thompson.. He should've asked for the ball till the Cavs doubled him which they would've done.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1805 » by Higgs Boston » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:26 am

Best thing would be that OKC aren't a PO team (westbrook injured or something), and in February OKC decides to trade George to Boston.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1806 » by Baller1234a » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:30 am

Higgs Boston wrote:Best thing would be that OKC aren't a PO team (westbrook injured or something), and in February OKC decides to trade George to Boston.

Hope so
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1807 » by OFWGKTA » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:35 am

Boston34Bg wrote:
Disinformation wrote:
Boston34Bg wrote:
Weird ass stats. Hayward was extremely efficient last year on a bad offensive team and isn't on this list? 8th best scorer in the league- behind the likes of Durant, IT... etc. The guy was super good and he ain't even there.

He's under Beta.


For real tho, if Horfie had a mean bone in his body, he'd be a an All-time player. Bigs like him don't come around too often. I mean he can pass, shoots 2's, 3's, post up, block shots, okay rebounder(was better a few years ago), defends the PnR well... He juts needs aggresiveness, which he lacks at times(and will probably never get). In the Cavs series he scored at will on the block against Love and Thompson.. He should've asked for the ball till the Cavs doubled him which they would've done.


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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1808 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jul 8, 2017 4:43 am

Bulpett: Danny Ainge probably not done wheeling and dealing

“No, we’re not comfortable yet,” Danny Ainge told the Herald. “We do like our team, but we’re still going to search things out to see if we can find anything that makes us better this offseason.”

And it would appear that Jae Crowder will be around to provide muscle and leadership. After sources confirmed he was part of sign-and-trade talks with Utah for Hayward that went nowhere, he is going nowhere — barring, of course, an unrefusable offer. Crowder is under contract for the next three years at a total of nearly $22 million, which is bargain-type stuff in today’s market.

“Jae is a big part of what we’re doing,” said Ainge. “I mean, he was our best 3-point shooter last year, and he defends some of the top players in the league. Jae’s a very important player for us going forward.”

The key now will be seeing how the Celts can fit in the various possible combinations. The club would still not seem to have enough minutes for all those it would like to get onto the court, but the hope is that things will shake out early on for Brad Stevens.

“Brad is very much involved in all that we do,” said Ainge. “We talk all the time, so I think we know how we think it will all fit. But obviously you never know for sure. We’re trying to get a team that not only is a group of good players, but also a team that does fit.”

“I’m really impressed with Terry,” said Ainge. “He came in and worked out a couple of days in Boston, and he looked really, really good. He looked better than he even did in the playoffs for us. I think Terry has a very bright future. I’m very excited about him.”

Overall, it’s clear the Celtics don’t believe they’re where they need to be to compete exactly eye to eye with the league’s elite. Therefore, between now and next February’s trade deadline, their roster would have to be considered very much a fluid entity.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1809 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jul 8, 2017 4:45 am

My Dedmon dream was dashed by that Bulpett wet blanket.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1810 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Jul 8, 2017 4:55 am

Rebounders skilled enough to play in our offense?

Kevin Love
Porzingis (mediocre rebounder right now)
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins
Vucevic?
Gortat

Short list Danny.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1811 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jul 8, 2017 5:06 am

At this point, I'd settle for Aron Baynes until we see what we have with Zizic/Theis/Yabs. Why do I feel like Humphries is going on a return tour?
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1812 » by Roddy » Sat Jul 8, 2017 5:09 am

Jusuf Nurkic would be perfect for us. He is not a shooter, but with Nurkic/Zizic, no more easy baskets for our opponents.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1813 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:02 am

CrowderKeg wrote:At this point, I'd settle for Aron Baynes until we see what we have with Zizic/Theis/Yabs. Why do I feel like Humphries is going on a return tour?


Bogut maybe?? We were interested last year. He was impressed by us. Vet minimum. Can play 15-20 minutes hopefully without dissolving into dust.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1814 » by Roddy » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:14 am

What about Ersan IIyasova ? 6'10, 13pts, 6rbs, 35% from 3. 30 years old.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1815 » by Bohemian » Sat Jul 8, 2017 8:41 am

I would add Dedmon with that 4 million exception.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1816 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat Jul 8, 2017 11:18 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Rebounders skilled enough to play in our offense?

Kevin Love
Porzingis (mediocre rebounder right now)
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins
Vucevic?
Gortat

Short list Danny.


Dedmon does shoot mid-range Js which would help his case. ;)
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1817 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat Jul 8, 2017 11:18 am

Roddy wrote:Jusuf Nurkic would be perfect for us. He is not a shooter, but with Nurkic/Zizic, no more easy baskets for our opponents.


He was essential for POR last year. No way they trade him to us. He's a part of their future.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1818 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jul 8, 2017 11:33 am

Winners and losers from NBA's stunning free agency

Winner: Boston Celtics
Hayward is perfect for Boston. Had the Pacers waited five days, the Celtics might have Paul George, too. When the league lowered its cap projection from about $101 million to $99 million, it became trickier for Boston to acquire George before free agency and leave enough space for Hayward.

With Hayward aboard, Boston would have at least revived its draft-day offer: two starters and three picks from among Boston's own first-rounders and protected selections coming from the Clippers and Grizzlies. They might have even shoved in one of their golden chips -- next season's Brooklyn pick or the Lakers-Kings pick they snagged in the Markelle Fultz deal -- to get across the goal line. Indiana will never know.

Boston earned this with one of the greatest rebuilds in sports history. The Celtics aren't even supposed to be here now, eyeing LeBron. Fleecing Brooklyn was about Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and those extra picks. It was about 2020 and beyond. Along the way, they nailed the side moves too many teams neglect -- or fail to notice at all. They stole Isaiah Thomas. They insisted on Jae Crowder as a throw-in to the Rajon Rondo trade. Boom: Forty percent of the starting lineup on a conference finals team, from found money.

Being good drew Horford. Getting better drew Hayward. Now Boston can play for 2018 and 2022. Hayward is a half-decade-plus older than Tatum and Brown, but their presence -- and those future picks -- factored into his calculus, even if players so young are rarely ready to win alongside a prime-aged star. Maybe those two are, though; Brown looks it. And if Hayward sticks in Boston, they represent successors ready to carry him into his 30s.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1819 » by chrisab123 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 11:38 am

Roddy wrote:What about Ersan IIyasova ? 6'10, 13pts, 6rbs, 35% from 3. 30 years old.


Has a better chance than Dedmon. He can shoot the 3 ball which is something this organization values. Ainge has no interest in traditional centers. Personally I'd be all in on Dedmon but thats just me.
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Re: Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017 

Post#1820 » by 165bows » Sat Jul 8, 2017 11:48 am

CrowderKeg wrote:Bulpett: Danny Ainge probably not done wheeling and dealing

“No, we’re not comfortable yet,” Danny Ainge told the Herald. “We do like our team, but we’re still going to search things out to see if we can find anything that makes us better this offseason.”

And it would appear that Jae Crowder will be around to provide muscle and leadership. After sources confirmed he was part of sign-and-trade talks with Utah for Hayward that went nowhere, he is going nowhere — barring, of course, an unrefusable offer. Crowder is under contract for the next three years at a total of nearly $22 million, which is bargain-type stuff in today’s market.

“Jae is a big part of what we’re doing,” said Ainge. “I mean, he was our best 3-point shooter last year, and he defends some of the top players in the league. Jae’s a very important player for us going forward.”

The key now will be seeing how the Celts can fit in the various possible combinations. The club would still not seem to have enough minutes for all those it would like to get onto the court, but the hope is that things will shake out early on for Brad Stevens.

“Brad is very much involved in all that we do,” said Ainge. “We talk all the time, so I think we know how we think it will all fit. But obviously you never know for sure. We’re trying to get a team that not only is a group of good players, but also a team that does fit.”

“I’m really impressed with Terry,” said Ainge. “He came in and worked out a couple of days in Boston, and he looked really, really good. He looked better than he even did in the playoffs for us. I think Terry has a very bright future. I’m very excited about him.”

Overall, it’s clear the Celtics don’t believe they’re where they need to be to compete exactly eye to eye with the league’s elite. Therefore, between now and next February’s trade deadline, their roster would have to be considered very much a fluid entity.

Seems to cover everyone but Smart. He's the only tradeable contract left.

I suppose they could turn around and trade Morris as well.

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