Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 64 - Deal Happening Tonight/Tomorrow?)

[chs234]

I doubt we get any draft picks out of this.


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[blueNorange]

it's finally coming to an end, yes please just go away.

[Handledatruth]

We owe J_Ent some respect is what.

--Mags

Never doubted the dude

I'm really curious what the deal is.

It can't be Anderson to us because that's not considered daring or a monster deal. That's just them doing a no-brainer.

Maybe we actually got something.

I just hope we are not eating any contract beyond 2 years in length and if we do there better be a 1st round pick included.

[AmazingJason]

That creates a young team with depth I can roll with.

Fits nicely too.

In year one:
Frank
THJr
Moe
KP
Willy

In year two:
Frank
Moe
Doncic/Porter (they'd defend the worst perimeter player between the 2-3 and Frank would defend the better of the two between the 1-2)
KP
Willy

Beautiful.

So, in effect, other than getting $ to match, the deal is Melo for Harkless, as Leonard isn't any good and his contract sucks, the other guys are non guaranteed and not good and we release them, and Houston isn't including Harkenstein.

Color me not impressed with this "Haul"

It's better than getting Ryan Anderson straight up.

Melo doesn't have much value due to his NTC. It's basically Houston or bust. I haven't heard anything from Cleveland's side so it sounds like they're not interested. Which isn't surprising since swapping out Love for Melo isn't a game-changer.

[EchelonNYK]

it's finally coming to an end, yes please just go away.

Don't jinx it bro.

[NBA Fan 1234]

That creates a young team with depth I can roll with.

Fits nicely too.

In year one:
Frank
THJr
Moe
KP
Willy

In year two:
Frank
Moe
Doncic/Porter (they'd defend the worst perimeter player between the 2-3 and Frank would defend the better of the two between the 1-2)
KP
Willy

Beautiful.

So, in effect, other than getting $ to match, the deal is Melo for Harkless, as Leonard isn't any good and his contract sucks, the other guys are non guaranteed and not good and we release them, and Houston isn't including Harkenstein.

Color me not impressed with this "Haul"

I think Taylor can be a decent backup PG, actually - I liked him at Texas. If they give up Hartenstein, it's really all you can hope for. I'm against trading Melo just to trade him, but getting a young 3/D guy who has improved over the last few years and potentially a young player is solid. I can't see us getting a pick in that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract and Portland probably complaining about it. NOW, if we end up taking back Harkless, Davis (or Aminu), and Leonard I can see us taking a pick from Portland because it'd reduce their tax bill by a nice chunk I think. Maybe we can get the rights to Llul if Houston can't sign him?

Look at the PG, DMC, and Butler deals - none of them got any amazing return. We just need something that doesn't kill us cap wise or, if it does, a reason to be killed - pick(s) + young player(s).

I'm just trying to come up with ideas to keep Anderson off this team.

[thebuzzardman]

Fits nicely too.

In year one:
Frank
THJr
Moe
KP
Willy

In year two:
Frank
Moe
Doncic/Porter (they'd defend the worst perimeter player between the 2-3 and Frank would defend the better of the two between the 1-2)
KP
Willy

Beautiful.

So, in effect, other than getting $ to match, the deal is Melo for Harkless, as Leonard isn't any good and his contract sucks, the other guys are non guaranteed and not good and we release them, and Houston isn't including Harkenstein.

Color me not impressed with this "Haul"

It's better than getting Ryan Anderson straight up.

Melo doesn't have much value due to his NTC. It's basically Houston or bust. I haven't heard anything from Cleveland's side so it sounds like they're not interested. Which isn't surprising since swapping out Love for Melo isn't a game-changer.

I'm a big fan of moving Melo, but for deals like this I'd retain him and all his ball movement killing, not defensive ways, until a better deal came along. And if one didn't, let him expire in 2 years.

[Wolfgang630]

All good things come to an end.

[CANiLIVE]

I love melo I wish we could've bulit around him better, but a offense around run threw another player will be so refreshing.

[El Poochio]

Would be insane if we got the Chinese Porzingis:

Watch on YouTube

Looks more aggressive than KP in his 1st year

Qinsanity > Linsanity

Qi looks like he has potential as a backup C. Can hit three's, has decent mobility for his size, shows flashes of rim protection ability. Just way too skinny and doesn't look like he can really put on that much mass.

Looking like Chinese Wall with that range and rim protection

[Crunchknicks1]

I know let's see breaking news. Before I'm happy.

[thebuzzardman]

Fits nicely too.

In year one:
Frank
THJr
Moe
KP
Willy

In year two:
Frank
Moe
Doncic/Porter (they'd defend the worst perimeter player between the 2-3 and Frank would defend the better of the two between the 1-2)
KP
Willy

Beautiful.

So, in effect, other than getting $ to match, the deal is Melo for Harkless, as Leonard isn't any good and his contract sucks, the other guys are non guaranteed and not good and we release them, and Houston isn't including Harkenstein.

Color me not impressed with this "Haul"

I think Taylor can be a decent backup PG, actually - I liked him at Texas. If they give up Hartenstein, it's really all you can hope for. I'm against trading Melo just to trade him, but getting a young 3/D guy who has improved over the last few years and potentially a young player is solid. I can't see us getting a pick in that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract and Portland probably complaining about it. NOW, if we end up taking back Harkless, Davis (or Aminu), and Leonard I can see us taking a pick from Portland because it'd reduce their tax bill by a nice chunk I think. Maybe we can get the rights to Llul if Houston can't sign him?

Look at the PG, DMC, and Butler deals - none of them got any amazing return. We just need something that doesn't kill us cap wise or, if it does, a reason to be killed - pick(s) + young player(s).

I'm just trying to come up with ideas to keep Anderson off this team.

Hartenstein is about the only thing that tips the entire deal from "sh*te" to "alright"

[thebuzzardman]

Qinsanity > Linsanity

Qi looks like he has potential as a backup C. Can hit three's, has decent mobility for his size, shows flashes of rim protection ability. Just way too skinny and doesn't look like he can really put on that much mass.

Looking like Chinese Wall with that range and rim protection

Looking like a poor mans Yi Jianlian

[NBA Fan 1234]

So, in effect, other than getting $ to match, the deal is Melo for Harkless, as Leonard isn't any good and his contract sucks, the other guys are non guaranteed and not good and we release them, and Houston isn't including Harkenstein.

Color me not impressed with this "Haul"

I think Taylor can be a decent backup PG, actually - I liked him at Texas. If they give up Hartenstein, it's really all you can hope for. I'm against trading Melo just to trade him, but getting a young 3/D guy who has improved over the last few years and potentially a young player is solid. I can't see us getting a pick in that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract and Portland probably complaining about it. NOW, if we end up taking back Harkless, Davis (or Aminu), and Leonard I can see us taking a pick from Portland because it'd reduce their tax bill by a nice chunk I think. Maybe we can get the rights to Llul if Houston can't sign him?

Look at the PG, DMC, and Butler deals - none of them got any amazing return. We just need something that doesn't kill us cap wise or, if it does, a reason to be killed - pick(s) + young player(s).

I'm just trying to come up with ideas to keep Anderson off this team.

Hartenstein is about the only thing that tips the entire deal from "sh*te" to "alright"

I'd be willing to take a first round pick instead of Hartenstein, also.

I'm in no rush trade Melo. If we can't get a deal with some kind of "fair" compensation, we wait. It's that simple to me.

[chs234]

All good things come to an end.

Well, the Melo and the Knicks together were never a good thing. So in this scenario, this **** relationship is finally coming to an end.


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[AmazingJason]

So, in effect, other than getting $ to match, the deal is Melo for Harkless, as Leonard isn't any good and his contract sucks, the other guys are non guaranteed and not good and we release them, and Houston isn't including Harkenstein.

Color me not impressed with this "Haul"

It's better than getting Ryan Anderson straight up.

Melo doesn't have much value due to his NTC. It's basically Houston or bust. I haven't heard anything from Cleveland's side so it sounds like they're not interested. Which isn't surprising since swapping out Love for Melo isn't a game-changer.

I'm a big fan of moving Melo, but for deals like this I'd retain him and all his ball movement killing, not defensive ways, until a better deal came along. And if one didn't, let him expire in 2 years.

After getting Hardaway, I think it's more of an imperative to trade Melo.

I'm not a fan of Hardaway, but if he's going to be successful here, he has to be the top scoring wing option on this team. That's the role that he played in at Atlanta and the reason why we paid him. And I'm sure that's what the Knicks braintrust is thinking right now.

[chs234]

I love melo I wish we could've bulit around him better, but a offense around run threw another player will be so refreshing.

We couldn't build around Melo better because he was selfish from the very start. Instead of waiting to sign with the Knicks as a free agent, he behaved like a brat forcing the Nuggets (and Knicks) to trade for him. This completed gutted the Knicks of young players and draft picks. A core of Melo, amare, Gallinari, chandler and Mozgov plus the future picks would have been a really great and young core.

Good riddance


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[El Poochio]

Qi looks like he has potential as a backup C. Can hit three's, has decent mobility for his size, shows flashes of rim protection ability. Just way too skinny and doesn't look like he can really put on that much mass.

Looking like Chinese Wall with that range and rim protection

Looking like a poor mans Yi Jianlian

Yi is cheap chinese goods version of Qi

[boomann21]

I want the guy from Asia

[Polk377]

Would be insane if we got the Chinese Porzingis:

Watch on YouTube

Looks more aggressive than KP in his 1st year

Qinsanity > Linsanity

Qi looks like he has potential as a backup C. Can hit three's, has decent mobility for his size, shows flashes of rim protection ability. Just way too skinny and doesn't look like he can really put on that much mass.

Pretty much a better version of what we want Luke Kornet to do.