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Qwigglez wrote:If we can get Len to a 3 year deal under 8 figures a year I will be very happy.
Zelaznyrules wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:I don't think anything was unfair with knight last year. He got moved to the bench because he wasn't very good and hurt two years ago. The start of last year he had a solid spot in the rotation but proceeded to litterally play like the worst player in the league by some metrics and was terrible to watch. Because of this he got benched. Hell had they not been looking to trade him he would have been benched earlier.
Now with that said if they bring him back I think he should be allowed to compete for minutes but if he sucks again he should be back on the bench.
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I'm not saying playing himself out of minutes in the first half of the season was unfair. I was saying us basically telling him to sit and not be allowed to compete for minutes was unfair. He definitely didn't look good but there were certainly games where Ulis didn't look good either and Knight could've played. He took it like a champ when asked to sit. It's unfair to ask him to do it again or not be allowed to compete for minutes.
Sitting him does him no favors and does us no favors either by having a depreciating asset not produce at all. At least if we take on a bad contract who actually plays, he could at least contribute in some way.
When did that happen? The coach kept giving him chances and from what we heard, Knight refused to do what Watson demanded of him. And it's not like Ulis played a bunch of minutes and Knight was forced to sit, Brandon actually played a few more minutes last season than Tyler did. Knight has been given more chances than his performance has warranted. He sat stoically on the sidelines, showing neither positive nor negative emotion and rarely provided anything close to the support you'd expect from someone who was really being a good teammate.
I think you're making excuses for a player that simply doesn't deserve that kind of consideration. He's shown a few flashes but for the most part he's been a huge disappointment from the moment he got here. The best I can say about him is that he didn't appear to try and cause havoc in the locker room but frankly, we have a right to expect a heck of a lot more than that from him.
LukasBMW wrote:3/17 ain't bad!
Dambo wrote:What's the point of having a trade and FA thread when we simply do nothing on these stuff.
lilfishi22 wrote:Dambo wrote:What's the point of having a trade and FA thread when we simply do nothing on these stuff.
Uhhh bro we signed Mike James
lilfishi22 wrote:Zelaznyrules wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not saying playing himself out of minutes in the first half of the season was unfair. I was saying us basically telling him to sit and not be allowed to compete for minutes was unfair. He definitely didn't look good but there were certainly games where Ulis didn't look good either and Knight could've played. He took it like a champ when asked to sit. It's unfair to ask him to do it again or not be allowed to compete for minutes.
Sitting him does him no favors and does us no favors either by having a depreciating asset not produce at all. At least if we take on a bad contract who actually plays, he could at least contribute in some way.
When did that happen? The coach kept giving him chances and from what we heard, Knight refused to do what Watson demanded of him. And it's not like Ulis played a bunch of minutes and Knight was forced to sit, Brandon actually played a few more minutes last season than Tyler did. Knight has been given more chances than his performance has warranted. He sat stoically on the sidelines, showing neither positive nor negative emotion and rarely provided anything close to the support you'd expect from someone who was really being a good teammate.
I think you're making excuses for a player that simply doesn't deserve that kind of consideration. He's shown a few flashes but for the most part he's been a huge disappointment from the moment he got here. The best I can say about him is that he didn't appear to try and cause havoc in the locker room but frankly, we have a right to expect a heck of a lot more than that from him.
There are no excuses being made for Knight. He hasn't played as well as we expect him to, that's fact. What's also a fact is, if a guy doesn't fit your roster anymore, and clearly he doesn't, you don't just bench him until his contract runs out. We asked him to come off the bench after siting 10 straight games which he refused to and we declared his season over. Maybe it was a mutual agreement, I don't know. What we know is that we no longer have a spot for him on the roster so you move him and move on.
The main issue here is, to me this is another case of McD sitting a contract too long hoping its value recovers or waiting for a deal he can't refuse to be offered to him. What I want to avoid is another Kieff situation or Dragic situation where McD sat on his hands waiting for the "perfect" deal while the affected players gets more and more disinterested, disgruntled and we get to a point where we have the stretch the guy's deal to move on.
lilfishi22 wrote:3/17m is a great deal for a productive, high energy big man. We all know his potential is limited but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get a spot on the roster. This is a great move for the team and for the locker room
