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2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48)

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Borrowing from Next Season's Allotted Funds 

Post#101 » by Ranma » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:45 am

Apparently, it cost more than the $1.27 million we have left to spend for the rest of the calendar season to purchase the the 39th overall selection to select Jawun Evans. The money looks to be coming out of our $5-million allotted funds for the 2017-18 season. If that is the case, then why the heck didn't we pay the cost to select Jordan Bell one pick earlier instead of letting Golden State take him at 38th overall?

The Bulls are already being made fun of for helping the Warriors get even better, so you would think they'd have prefer to deal with us if we presented the same offer. No offense to Evans, who looks and plays a lot like Chris Paul in certain aspects, but Bell looks to me as clearly the better prospect despite my admittedly limited knowledge of this year's draft.


Broderick Turner, Los Angeles Times (6/22/17)
Frank went on to talk about the Clippers buying Milwaukee’s second-round pick at No. 48 and then selecting South Carolina guard Sindarius Thornwell.

The Clippers also purchased another second-round pick from Philadelphia, choosing Oklahoma State point guard Jawun Evans at 39. However, the deal for Evans is not official and can’t be announced until July 6, when the NBA’s moratorium is lifted.

Clippers Buy Into the Second Round to Draft Evans, Thornwell


Kevin O' Connor, TheRinger.com (6/26/17)
The reality is that they spent cash to acquire two second-round picks: guards Jawun Evans and Sindarius Thornwell. These moves have Jerry West’s fingerprints all over them, since West understands something that Rivers never will: Developing young players is better than overpaying for retread veterans. The acquisitions of Evans and Thornwell help, regardless of what happens with Paul, Griffin, and Redick. If the stars return, the two are low-cost rookies ready to contribute off the bench early in their careers. If Griffin, Redick, and Paul leave, the Clippers will have some talent in the pipeline as they build for the future. Feeling out trade offers for Jordan could have been as much about setting the table for a trade later, in the event of a team reset, as it was about trying to get George. The Clippers need to be proactive no matter what happens over the coming weeks.

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Re: Borrowing from Next Season's Allotted Funds 

Post#102 » by Neddy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:32 am

Ranma wrote:Apparently, it cost more than the $1.27 million we have left to spend for the rest of the calendar season to purchase the the 39th overall selection to select Jawun Evans. The money looks to be coming out of our $5-million allotted funds for the 2017-18 season. If that is the case, then why the heck didn't we pay the cost to select Jordan Bell one pick earlier instead of letting Golden State take him at 38th overall?

The Bulls are already being made fun of for helping the Warriors get even better, so you would think they'd have prefer to deal with us if we presented the same offer. No offense to Evans, who looks and plays a lot like Chris Paul in certain aspects, but Bell looks to me as clearly the better prospect despite my admittedly limited knowledge of this year's draft.


Broderick Turner, Los Angeles Times (6/22/17)
Frank went on to talk about the Clippers buying Milwaukee’s second-round pick at No. 48 and then selecting South Carolina guard Sindarius Thornwell.

The Clippers also purchased another second-round pick from Philadelphia, choosing Oklahoma State point guard Jawun Evans at 39. However, the deal for Evans is not official and can’t be announced until July 6, when the NBA’s moratorium is lifted.

Clippers Buy Into the Second Round to Draft Evans, Thornwell


Kevin O' Connor, TheRinger.com (6/26/17)
The reality is that they spent cash to acquire two second-round picks: guards Jawun Evans and Sindarius Thornwell. These moves have Jerry West’s fingerprints all over them, since West understands something that Rivers never will: Developing young players is better than overpaying for retread veterans. The acquisitions of Evans and Thornwell help, regardless of what happens with Paul, Griffin, and Redick. If the stars return, the two are low-cost rookies ready to contribute off the bench early in their careers. If Griffin, Redick, and Paul leave, the Clippers will have some talent in the pipeline as they build for the future. Feeling out trade offers for Jordan could have been as much about setting the table for a trade later, in the event of a team reset, as it was about trying to get George. The Clippers need to be proactive no matter what happens over the coming weeks.

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as for someone who lives in Oregon, I had a chance to come across many Oregon prospects, and Jordan Bell is no exception. he has great tools and he may become a great player in NBA, but his ceiling is limited in today's NBA. he is somewhat of a throw back type of a yesteryear player. I think this kid from Oklahoma state has lower floor but higher ceiling, to be honest.
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Getting Rid of One-and-Done? 

Post#103 » by Ranma » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:32 pm

I'm not sure if the NBA will institute the suggestion noted in the article, but I actually like the idea of implementing something similar to what MLB is doing with regards to eligibility for its draft. Kids could either be drafted right out of high school or commit to college and generally not be eligible again for the draft until their junior or senior seasons in college.

This would allow for the excitement of seeing really talented prep players drafted right out of high school for a chance at possibly the next LeBron, Kobe, or KG. Even a Jonathan Bender would benefit from this with the advent and proliferation of G-League teams serving as a minor-league system to focus on talent and physical development.


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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#104 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:28 am

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Neddy wrote:so, what is our absoulte nightmare roster at this point?
if every free agent was to leave, we would trot out

Evans-Austin-Wes Johnson-Brice-DJ with Jamal and Stone off the bench?

it's gonna be a party like nineteen ninety nine.

If Evans and Thornwell pan out like the media claims they will, that would low-key be a fun team to watch. Especially if we found a way to dump Austin and Jamal. We could even try to bring David Michineau over from France to see what he can do. For all the faults people found with his game when we drafted him, he did get a lot of praise for his speed, athleticism and defense. In a tanking scenario, why not bring him over and try to see if he could be a poor man's Eric Bledsoe off the bench?

All in all, that crew wouldn't win much, but they'd probably be more entertaining than last season's team was.


1999 was a bad year, but 2000/1 was very much a low-key fun team to watch. They ended up winning 30 I think, and going .500 after the All-Star break. Mainly they played with a lot of enthusiasm and energy, and I would like to see that going forward.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#105 » by Neddy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:13 am

madmaxmedia wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
Neddy wrote:so, what is our absoulte nightmare roster at this point?
if every free agent was to leave, we would trot out

Evans-Austin-Wes Johnson-Brice-DJ with Jamal and Stone off the bench?

it's gonna be a party like nineteen ninety nine.

If Evans and Thornwell pan out like the media claims they will, that would low-key be a fun team to watch. Especially if we found a way to dump Austin and Jamal. We could even try to bring David Michineau over from France to see what he can do. For all the faults people found with his game when we drafted him, he did get a lot of praise for his speed, athleticism and defense. In a tanking scenario, why not bring him over and try to see if he could be a poor man's Eric Bledsoe off the bench?

All in all, that crew wouldn't win much, but they'd probably be more entertaining than last season's team was.


1999 was a bad year, but 2000/1 was very much a low-key fun team to watch. They ended up winning 30 I think, and going .500 after the All-Star break. Mainly they played with a lot of enthusiasm and energy, and I would like to see that going forward.


well, that was the point. and the worse we do this upcoming season, better our draft picks will be... just saying. it's been awhile since we enjoyed losing games, eh? I'm game. I'm totally ready to sit back and enjoy every L with Adam Silver tossing that #1 pick to us with big Steve's fat pocket guiding his pingpong balls. it's gonna seal the deal if the Clippers is the only team bringing out a special guest on the draft night.
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Re: Getting Rid of One-and-Done? 

Post#106 » by Neddy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:25 am

Ranma wrote:I'm not sure if the NBA will institute the suggestion noted in the article, but I actually like the idea of implementing something similar to what MLB is doing with regards to eligibility for its draft. Kids could either be drafted right out of high school or commit to college and generally not be eligible again for the draft until their junior or senior seasons in college.

This would allow for the excitement of seeing really talented prep players drafted right out of high school for a chance at possibly the next LeBron, Kobe, or KG. Even a Jonathan Bender would benefit from this with the advent and proliferation of G-League teams serving as a minor-league system to focus on talent and physical development.


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I agree with the coach. I have made the same argument for years now, that with how baseball and especially hockey, can have kids signed and drafted at such young ages and go through minor league systems to horn their skills. whether they fail or succeed, is entirely upon them. but everyone is given that choice. NBA creates a system where they want that little "player so and so, from so and so university" title for their introduction to ease in the fans that their players are not some punk or "thug" off the street. if the fans at home feel that way hearing "the player so and so, from so and so high school", it's their problem from their own prejudice, and not the players and surely not the burden that players should bare. in fact, if a player chooses to go to a 4 year college, they should not be eligible for at least 2 years. a community college kids should be eligible after 1, similar to how MLB runs.
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Don't Dismiss the Second Round 

Post#107 » by Ranma » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:06 pm

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#108 » by wassuphomeboy » Sat Jul 1, 2017 3:39 am

Sindarius Thornwell might be the brightest thing about the Clippers' future at this point. Even though he was a second round pick, he was the Player of the Year in his conference and led his team to the Final Four, showing his impact goes beyond just stats(and his numbers were superb, as well). I see a lot of pre-injury EJ/James Harden in his game and he could absolutely be the steal of the draft, if he could only get minutes with Doc.
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Jawun Evans Trade Officially Announced 

Post#109 » by Ranma » Thu Jul 6, 2017 5:17 pm

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Official Press Release of Jawun Evans Acquisition 

Post#111 » by Ranma » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:12 pm

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#112 » by Captain Ballmer » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:58 pm

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#113 » by Forte IV » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:35 pm

SIndarius next. Hopefully Jamil after
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#114 » by nickhx2 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:37 pm

gosh are we gonna have room for all these guys
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#115 » by JGOJustin » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:53 pm

nickhx2 wrote:gosh are we gonna have room for all these guys


Pretty sure most will be two way contract guys, namely Jamil and Jawun.

I personally believe Sindarius has the best shot at making the actual team. I love him. He's already ready to contribute and be a two way player right now. The physicality and athleticism on the wing is something that we haven't had and should we not make a play for a Tony Allen or someone like that, Sindarius can fill that role right now. I'm so high on him.
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Commitment to Jawun Evans 

Post#116 » by Ranma » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:01 pm

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#117 » by MartinToVaught » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:16 am

Wow. The front office clearly likes Evans a lot. Now there's no excuse for Doc not to give him a fair chance to contribute over the next three years.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread: Clippers select Jawun Evans (39) and Sindarius Thornwell (48) 

Post#118 » by Neddy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:24 am

if we liked him enough to sign him with guaranteed contract and break into the MLE, we really outta find minutes for him to develop. makes no sense to sign him to such contract just to relegate him to the G League and a few garbage minutes just to release him after 2 years.
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Jawun Evans, First-Round Talent 

Post#119 » by Ranma » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:34 am

I think Jawun has the higher upside and ceiling, but he might need to spend most of his time with the G-League for 2017-18 while Sindarius is more likely to contribute as a role player for the main team. The commitment and use of the MLE stood out, but the organization values Evans apparently as a first-round talent. I've seen Jawun Evans rated as high as 17th overall but he was typically projected as a late-first-round or early-second-round selection primarily because of his size. I've found pro comments describing him as a top-10 or lottery pick based on talent, but his lack of height and weight were cons cited for his lowered projections.

This is obviously not a Doc Rivers move as he's never been inclined to commit to rookies long-term and has even made comments arguing against first-round picks because of the salary commitment.
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Re: Commitment to Jawun Evans 

Post#120 » by mkwest » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:07 am

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After Teodosic's deal, we should have around $2M and some change remaining of the MLE. The new rookie minimum is $815,615. I wonder how much more he was given and if the plan is to do the same with Thornwell.

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