oldjim wrote:hood30 wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:I hear that, but sometimes I feel like we start getting into the mode of thinking that all these guys are actually going to develop, when some of them won't even be in the league in 3 years. Or a lot of times when you look at successful role players, they don't wind up effective players until 6 or 7 years down the line, while on their 3rd team, no matter which organization drafted them.
I mean I do like both these guys, but sometimes you have to look at it from the outside. If these 2 were on a different team, would we really believe they were either valuable, or that they were likely to ever be more than a standard issue 12mpg rotation guy and 2 or 3 seasons down the line?
These guys are pretty expendable imho, at least in a deal like this.
Agree with this..Sometimes, people talk as if all these young guys are guaranteed to eventually improve into players good enough to be starters in this league...Some of that is based on the idea Kenny can magically turn any average looking young player into a good player, so even a guy like RHJ can't be traded for an older very good player.
DLo is the only guy that has a chance of actually become a star...LeVert bar is as a good starting role player...After that, most of other young guys will probably only become role players off the bench....You can't treat all of them the same as for development.
whitehead will be better than patrick beverly ,he is athletic. A very good role player or starter level player.
levert will be next batum, a star player but not allstar.
russell , if he improve his defense at least to the foye's defensive level, he will be a star player , but not allstar level. he is not athletic.
I respectfully disagree with your projections. Personally I don't think white head will be as good as Patrick Beverly on defense but could end up being a better penetrator.
I'm also higher on LeVert than most people. I'm actually in the very small minority that thinks that LeVert has a higher ceiling than DLo. I know the Harden comparison is thrown around for DLo a lot, but I think that LeVert is more likely to reach that level, along with being a great defender. IMO he's just a much more unique and dynamic offensive player and could be truly dominant with his mix of size, athleticism, ball handling and versatile scoring ability. I think DLo is more likely to turn into Kemba Walker, and will be better than LeVert for a decent amount of time but I could see LeVert passing him eventually.
