2017 Nets Offseason Thread III

[Ror1997]

We didn't have to do any of that, Billy King was just a fuktard who was so incompetent he shouldn't have been allowed to run a small local deli, let alone an NBA franchise in the biggest media market in the world.

King could have had a roster with Harden, Batum and Millsap, or any other combo of realistic gets had he just had a normal brain.


And who knows if DLo or LeVert, or RHJ or Allen, or any of these young guys ever become just once in awhile All Star snubs, let alone a player of Kyrie's level.

I'm not saying to trade everything for him, but if it simply cost DLo, RHJ and a pick or 2, it's a complete no brainer. It's not giving up the farm to get him, when our farm is a petting zoo.

Are you kidding? We did all that and we STILL almost lost DWill to Dallas. Billy is stupid, but he HAD to make those trades with Portland and Atlanta.

King couldn't have gotten Harden. DWill would've walked before we had the opportunity to trade for Harden. He didn't hit the trade block until September. We needed to trade for joe Johnson in July.

Every stupid move we made before the Celtics trade was 100% made with the intention of pleasing, and keeping DWill FA.

And we still almost lost him to Dallas. How can you say we didnt have to make those moves?

None of those specific trades had to be made. He had a cache of assets like no other. Moves had to be made, but not those moves. He gave up a treasure chest of A+++ assets to bring in a bucket of grade D garbage and expired milk.

No one is saying they were good moves. But yes he did have to make those moves. I even remember hearing DWill himself requested we trade our pick for Wallace. Joe Johnson was an all-star SG. In all fairness, JJ was a good player we just over paid to acquire him. But JJ was the most attractive option. Harden wasn't yet available.

Billy King is an idiot but he had to make those moves to keep Deron. Stupid moves stemming from stupid moves.

And it is absolutely without a doubt the timeline we would go down again if we handcuffed ourselves to a superstar in a contract situation like Kyrie. Its a timeline any team goes down when they prematurely trade for a superstar.

Its all about # of years of team control

DLo has 7 years. LeVert has 8.

This isn't rocket science.

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If he can stay in shape I love the idea of him as a low cost signing.

[Kaiser30]

To be honest, I really wanted him last year. However, I could understand why he wanted to prove himself on a good Raptors team with a vacancy at the four and in hindsight, we dodged a bullet. If he's finally aware of his nutrition issues and willing to take a small deal, why not. Probably more of a training camp deal in order to fuel some competition as we lack an open roster spot.

I actually think we could use another "real SF" besides Carroll as RHJ should remain at the four. But they are probably looking at three guard lineups with players like Goodwin, LeVert or even Dinwiddie (similar to Livingston on the Warriors) spending some time there as backups. I'm super curious how the team looks next season.

Edit: Kind of forgotten Joe Harris although I like him. 6'6 and 220lbs, he might have the best frame to play some backup 3 compared to the other guys I've mentioned.

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If he can stay in shape I love the idea of him as a low cost signing.

He looks like he's in great shape right now and I wouldn't imagine he'd gain weight during training camp or in-season (which are pretty close). Not sure he's a true stretch 4, but he certainly brings a skill set we don't currently have and he's young enough that he could still do some more developing.

I assume he'd be really cheap but I wouldn't be shocked if we hold off on signing him until we see if we can make something happen facilitating 1 of the big trades that still seem likely to happen before the season (Melo, Irving).

[Sleepyazn]

Jared Sullinger is the greatest stretch mark 4 in the history of the NBA, only 2nd to Boris Diaw

[ChokeFasncists]

This is awesome.

Brooklyn Nets Forward Trevor Booker Already Owns 18 Companies
by: Darrelle Lincoln On Saturday, July 22, 2017
Charlotte Hornets v Brooklyn Nets

The NBA has the highest percentage of former athletes to go broke unlike any other league. Trevor Booker is not trying to be on that long list of ex-players.

The Brooklyn Nets forward might be more successful off of the court than he is on it as his work interests extend far beyond the hard court. Booker has wisely invested in real estate and owns 18 different companies that include sports academies, a private high school, a record label, and a VC firm.

“To say that I’m an entrepreneur is an understatement,” Booker told Business Insider.

It was with this in mind that Booker visited San Francisco and Silicon Valley this week with 13 other players on a tour organized by the National Basketball Players Association (NBPA). As part of the tour the players met with representatives of tech firms IBM, Intel and STRIVR.

For Booker, STRIVR was the highlight. The company is working on ways to train people using virtual reality headsets. It’s focused particularly on training college and professional athletes, giving them a chance to experience scenarios that might come up in games without having to break a sweat.

“I could definitely see myself using it as an athlete,” Booker said of STRIVR’s virtual reality training device. “They can help you shoot a game in real time and shoot it from your point of view.”

Booker’s tour of Silicon Valley was meaningful, not because of what he saw and learned, but the meet-and-greets thathappened among the players themselves.

“One of the things that we brought up is that we don’t know what each other has going on,” Booker said about his fellow basketball players. “We wish that more [players] would take advantage of their resources to start business ventures and do something different.

“We can really help each other’s businesses, so that’s something we vowed to do.”

The 7-year veteran had a career year last year, averaging 10.0 ppg, 8.0 rebs, 1.9 asts, on 51.6% shooting from the field.

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Poor Toine, lost a lot of money in real estate in 2008.

[ChokeFasncists]

I don't get how kyrie is selfish here. Writing is on the wall with LeBron. LeBrons camp knows how to play the media. The fact that BRIAN WINDHORST broke the news tells you everything you need to know about this situation. LeBrons camp leaked it to their espn shrill and painted LBJ in a positive light. LeBron James is a phenomenal person and a amazing basketball player but the dude is a **** diva. I'm not talking about wrestling.


Plus, if Kyrie wants a shot at leading his own team to a championship instead of playing sidekick, you can't knock that. That isn't selfishness. That's integrity. Some people don't want that safety net under them.

He's also aware of Dan Gilbert's handling of LeBron the second time around.

- David Griffin walks
- Chauncey Billups lowballed
- Multiple stars passed on
- Their biggest signing was Jeff Green.

Is it going well? Because it looks to me Gilbert is pulling a Mark Cuban and is satisfied with one ring. LeBron, Love and Kyrie have all collectively mentioned they aren't sure where the Cavaliers are headed.

Nothing wrong with Kyrie wanting to take whatever he learned in his championship runs to a different organization. Harden did it first.


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Harden leaving OKC was more cuz they wouldn't pay him tho.

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Dang, camp deal? Or we're gonna waive someone?

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Jared Sullinger is the greatest stretch mark 4 in the history of the NBA, only 2nd to Boris Diaw

Dangerous statement. Are you sure they are greater than the likes of Vin Baker, Glen Davis and Michael Sweetney?

[DarkXaero]

Trading for disgruntled player with only a year or two left on his deal...just not interested in walking that same path again. Plus Irving is oft injured, and I highly question the mentality of a player who values "being the man" over wanting to compete for a championship next to the world's top player. It isn't like Kyrie's usage rate was low when playing next to Lebron. He just wants to ball dominate like he did before Lebron got there and the Cavs sucked balls with him leading the way. Good luck winning games with that kind of attitude. That being said, I don't blame him for bailing on the Cavs since Lebron looks prime to jump ship anyway.

I also think that he's an idiot because he thinks the world is flat like some European ass hat from the 1400s, but that's going a bit off course.

Sorry if I offended you...but these trade proposals are pure delusion. I don't know how to say it any other way, why sugarcoat it?

Kyrie is nothing like Deron, mentality wise or playing style wise. He's unhappy in Cleveland, he would relish the challenge of being the franchise player for the team he grew up supporting. His injury record is a bit overblown, he has been fine over the last 4 seasons. 70+ games in 3 of those seasons, 53 in the other. Saying no to a very efficient 25/6 star guard with 23 PER and especially someone who grew up supporting New Jersey Nets, for a team in our situation...is just weird to me. Obviously, all of this is kinda pointless because we probably don't have the assets to get Kyrie, nor will our FO make such an offer. But if Kyrie makes it to 2019 FA, and we have capspace (which as it stands, we will)? I'd love to have him here.

I haven't read most of the trade proposals, my point wasn't specifically about them. More than half of your posts, I see you taking shots at other posters' line of thought, and it's just an unnecessary hostile way of responding to someone.

If you cannot handle me challenging an opinion, or confuse that with me attacking someone personally, then block me. i hardly interact with you anyway because most of your takes/posts are either moronic or straight up garbage that's not worth addressing. I could give a **** less

and the fact that you're saying Kyrie would "relish" the challenge of being the Nets franchise player after it has been made blatantly clear that he wants to play for either the spurs, knicks, wolves, or heat shows me the reason why you're coming at my head, because i called the idea that some folks have of kyrie coming here utter delusion. sorry, i will not indulge your fantasies or delusions of grandeur. wake up neo

You don't challenge anyone's opinion, you just take shots at them. Challenging someone's opinion means having a valid argument where you make points. No need to be a pretentious dick just because you disagree with someone. Calling me a **** poster? I'm actually one of the most reasonable posters here and maybe you can check my post history before making up **** about my posting. Bring up a post of mine that was straight up garbage or moronic.

The same article that you're using to cite Kyrie's preferred spots (Spurs, Wolves, Heat, Knicks), also states that Kyrie is open to other teams as well if they have good vision in place. Do you honestly believe that Kyrie would prefer to play for a historically dysfunctional Knicks franchise but not a more stable Nets organization? Especially since they're both in the same market, and Kyrie actually supported the Nets growing up in Jersey. And maybe go through my posts more carefully because I already said that we aren't getting him through trade, so I'm not sure why you're calling me delusional for something I don't believe will happen.

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If he can stay in shape I love the idea of him as a low cost signing.

Sadly I don't even think his weight is the #1 problem. Doesn't he also have a chronic medical condition (i.e. something with his back or knees)? I thought that was the reason why he dropped in the draft.

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If he can stay in shape I love the idea of him as a low cost signing.

Sadly I don't even think his weight is the #1 problem. Doesn't he also have a chronic medical condition (i.e. something with his back or knees)? I thought that was the reason why he dropped in the draft.

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He dropped because back surgery was looming. Once the got the surgery, I don't think it was an issue for him.

But I do know he had foot surgery last year. So there's still weight + Injury concerns.

Still, a 1 year deal? Why not.

[ChokeFasncists]

Who are we gonna let go if we sign him tho?

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If he can stay in shape I love the idea of him as a low cost signing.

Sadly I don't even think his weight is the #1 problem. Doesn't he also have a chronic medical condition (i.e. something with his back or knees)? I thought that was the reason why he dropped in the draft.

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He had a bulging disc issue coming out of the draft but was productive in Boston. He missed a lot of this season with a broken foot which was surgically repaired by none other than O'Malley. The Nets likely have good intel on his medical reports.

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[Ror1997]

I bet we're holding onto his cap hold to potentially trade him in a S&T to make numbers work. Like when Kieth Bogans got a huge payday for no reason in the KG/PP trade.

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Makes sense that LeVert/Russell are the only untouchables, they have the highest upsides

Are they going to retain Foye for his veteran presence? He damn sure isn't going to play.

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Makes sense that LeVert/Russell are the only untouchables, they have the highest upsides

Are they going to retain Foye for his veteran presence? He damn sure isn't going to play.

LOL. No one is untouchable in this team.

[Claud]

Honestly could not be happier with the way Marks is handling this off-season. There's a lot of rumbling around the league and we are in a great position now to get involved and improve our team's future. None of these free agents would move the needle much for us if we are being honest with ourselves. Gotta keep the big picture in mind.