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2017 Nets Offseason Thread III

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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1421 » by DeRoma » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:12 pm

Papi_swav wrote:Come on Marks please don't trade Whitehead, thats my boy right there.

I brought his jersey.... T.T
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1422 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:42 pm

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treiz wrote:^But it doesn't solve our problem of needing more bigs. I'd rather trade him for a serviceable stretch big than another 2nd rounder, especially a really low one if it's from a capped out playoff team, but at the same time there's just no one out there we can get with him.


I still dont think we need a big. a 4 man rotation of RHJ, Booker, Acy, Mozgov and then adjust that based on how much allen can play right away.

i dont think we need a 6th big especially if we go small more this year


we can also run Booker as a small center at times. I have no issue with this at all.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1423 » by Prokorov » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:06 pm

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treiz wrote:^But it doesn't solve our problem of needing more bigs. I'd rather trade him for a serviceable stretch big than another 2nd rounder, especially a really low one if it's from a capped out playoff team, but at the same time there's just no one out there we can get with him.


I still dont think we need a big. a 4 man rotation of RHJ, Booker, Acy, Mozgov and then adjust that based on how much allen can play right away.

i dont think we need a 6th big especially if we go small more this year


I have no problem rolling into the season with our big rotation being RHJ/Booker/Acy/Mosgov, it's more to do with depth. If one of the 4 guys you mentioned goes down we'd be in real trouble. It really puts pressure on the bigs to perhaps play more minutes than they should otherwise.

We could play small like you said, but apart from Carroll, who else could fill in at the spot?


if someone goes down and allen cant step in we can always add someone mid season. we have 4-5 million to work with. another acy time mid season deal?
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1424 » by Netaman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:13 pm

I don't think they need another big as much as it would just be better resource allocation to have a more balanced roster even if just purely for development purposes grooming a young replacement for Booker. With so many guards and combo forwards, a handful are gonna to take a lot of DNPs. I guess after all the injury issues last year it's not the worst problem to have an abundance of depth, just unfortunate that there likely won't be enough minutes for guys who have shown ability like Whitehead or Kilpatrick.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1425 » by treiz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:51 pm

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if someone goes down and allen cant step in we can always add someone mid season. we have 4-5 million to work with. another acy time mid season deal?


But wouldn't you prefer to get him in now rather than later? Just not sure if adding the guy midseason would allow him to be able to contribute sooner than we would want them too. But I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. I'd rather clear some of the congestion we have at the wing spots now.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1426 » by Netaman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:59 pm

treiz wrote:
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if someone goes down and allen cant step in we can always add someone mid season. we have 4-5 million to work with. another acy time mid season deal?


But wouldn't you prefer to get him in now rather than later? Just not sure if adding the guy midseason would allow him to be able to contribute sooner than we would want them too. But I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. I'd rather clear some of the congestion we have at the wing spots now.


It makes too much sense to not happen. There is going to be a team out there that needs a guard and has front court depth to spare. Kilpatrick, Whitehead, Dinwiddie, and Harris can play NBA minutes and some team out there will have their version of Chris Mccullough that they're willing to move on from. Or an Ed Davis type will shake lose from a team like Portland looking to shed salary.

It wouldn't even shock me if Marks was willing to deal RHJ in the right circumstance, but that would have be like a rare Nurkic situation so I'd say it's unlikely. Like Marks said, they need to stay "fluid" and be ready to react.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1427 » by treiz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:12 pm

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It makes too much sense to not happen. There is going to be a team out there that needs a guard and has front court depth to spare. Kilpatrick, Whitehead, Dinwiddie, and Harris can play NBA minutes and some team out there will have their version of Chris Mccullough that they're willing to move on from. Or an Ed Davis type will shake lose from a team like Portland looking to shed salary.

It wouldn't even shock me if Marks was willing to deal RHJ in the right circumstance, but that would have be like a rare Nurkic situation so I'd say it's unlikely. Like Marks said, they need to stay "fluid" and be ready to react.


I agree too on this making too much sense, but I doubt we can trade Skil/Harris for anything of decent value. Might have to part with a combination of Whitehead or Dinwiddie with Skil/Harris/Goodwin to make it happen whilst also absorbing some salary. Now another problem and the big one is, who's actually out there that we can realistically pursue? (Along with Ed Davis who you mentioned) Even if it's not now and during the season like Prok mentioned.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1428 » by Netaman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:39 pm

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I agree too on this making too much sense, but I doubt we can trade Skil/Harris for anything of decent value. Might have to part with a combination of Whitehead or Dinwiddie with Skil/Harris/Goodwin to make it happen whilst also absorbing some salary. Now another problem and the big one is, who's actually out there that we can realistically pursue? (Along with Ed Davis who you mentioned) Even if it's not now and during the season like Prok mentioned.


yeah it's tough to say because there aren't many obvious guys floating out there. I went back and scanned the last few draft classes and maybe someone like Lyles would fit if things don't work out with his new team? Maybe Willie Cauley Stein? SAC doesn't have a ton of depth at C so maybe not.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1429 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:54 pm

I think we should just cut Goodwin and bring in a big from the D League or something. That's what I would do.

Hes obviously not in our plans.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1430 » by Ror1997 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:12 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think we should just cut Goodwin and bring in a big from the D League or something. That's what I would do.

Hes obviously not in our plans.


The DLegaue is rich of Guards and Wings, but there aren't alot of talented big men. Any that's there are probably already under contract.

There's guys like Mockivicius.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1431 » by Prokorov » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:28 pm

treiz wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
if someone goes down and allen cant step in we can always add someone mid season. we have 4-5 million to work with. another acy time mid season deal?


But wouldn't you prefer to get him in now rather than later? Just not sure if adding the guy midseason would allow him to be able to contribute sooner than we would want them too. But I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. I'd rather clear some of the congestion we have at the wing spots now.


No, id rather wait. keep some flexibility. you also dont know if we will need a PF or C. or maybe even somethign else all together. why sign someone to sit the bench?
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1432 » by treiz » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:27 am

Netaman wrote:
yeah it's tough to say because there aren't many obvious guys floating out there. I went back and scanned the last few draft classes and maybe someone like Lyles would fit if things don't work out with his new team? Maybe Willie Cauley Stein? SAC doesn't have a ton of depth at C so maybe not.


Guess there probably isn't a better option right now other than to stand pat and wait. There might be an opening closer to the trade deadline.

Prokorov wrote:No, id rather wait. keep some flexibility. you also dont know if we will need a PF or C. or maybe even somethign else all together. why sign someone to sit the bench?


Think whether if it's a C or PF doesn't really matter, just as long as they're a big, my main worry is if Mozgov goes down and Allen isn't ready. Yes Booker can play some C play really small, but that would be tough to play with for multiple games (should it be a big injury, which he has a history of) unless we throw Allen into the fire.

Well, I wouldn't want them to sit the bench throughout the whole season, the idea is that our bigs would also be in and out of the rotation, similar to what Kenny did last year with the wings.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1433 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:47 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think we should just cut Goodwin and bring in a big from the D League or something. That's what I would do.

Hes obviously not in our plans.

I feel bad for Goodwin. He's a good kid but I didn't see much improvement from last year in his summer league play.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1434 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:09 am

FWIW, Windrem is saying the team is going to make another move for a big. I haven't followed anything over at that **** house at all in months, so I dunno if he's spewing hot air or being honest.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1435 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:14 am

MrDollarBills wrote:FWIW, Windrem is saying the team is going to make another move for a big. I haven't followed anything over at that **** house at all in months, so I dunno if he's spewing hot air or being honest.


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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1436 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:25 am

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:FWIW, Windrem is saying the team is going to make another move for a big. I haven't followed anything over at that **** house at all in months, so I dunno if he's spewing hot air or being honest.


Link?


he made a comment in the thread about Allen Crabbe that i saw in passing. not sure how believable it is though, heard his balls got cut off after Billy King's **** show ended and Marks and company don't leak anything. By then, i had already stopped regularly reading that site and their band of zombie **** posters.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1437 » by FlipFlopShot » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:56 am

Gave up: Lopez
Received: Mozgov, D'Angelo, Carroll and Crabbe.

The experience on this team went a complete 180. I like it.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1438 » by moonpie » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:44 am

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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1439 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:03 am

moonpie wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/GoNets/comments/6q1r0z/according_to_a_source_the_nets_are_looking_at_a/

Green!?

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That'd be awesome, that'd be crazy! Wow!

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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread III 

Post#1440 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:09 am

Aaah, I actually like Green, but at this point I was hoping we'd keep cap open moving forward.

I hope it's a bigger move than that if we dip into the future cap space.
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