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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#81 » by Sixerscan » Thu Aug 3, 2017 2:47 am

kuclas wrote:Issue is if Embiid is healthy and plays 60 games. Averages say 25/11 with 3 blocks and 3 assists a game playing 30 minutes.

If they don't extend him before the end of training camp.

In 2018 while the sixers can match any offer. Teams can give Embiid a 4 year max deal but essentially a player option after 1 year. So it sets Embiid up for a huge payday in 2019 if he decides to opt out and he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


Can't have a player option with years after the player option.

Offer a 5 year max and teams can't offer less than 3 years.

Not that I want to go into free agency with him. Lock him up.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#82 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Aug 3, 2017 2:49 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Being not cleared doesn't mean he's physically not able to play 5 on 5 yet, it just means he hasn't been given the go ahead to actually do it.

Yeah, speculation seems to be that they're being cautious and don't want him playing 5-on-5 until training camp.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#83 » by kuclas » Thu Aug 3, 2017 3:03 am

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kuclas wrote:Issue is if Embiid is healthy and plays 60 games. Averages say 25/11 with 3 blocks and 3 assists a game playing 30 minutes.

If they don't extend him before the end of training camp.

In 2018 while the sixers can match any offer. Teams can give Embiid a 4 year max deal but essentially a player option after 1 year. So it sets Embiid up for a huge payday in 2019 if he decides to opt out and he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


Can't have a player option with years after the player option.

Offer a 5 year max and teams can't offer less than 3 years.

Not that I want to go into free agency with him. Lock him up.


Hmm. I thought they could offer Embiid sometype of kevin Durant/Lebron James deal. Durant and Lebron both opted out after 1 year
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#84 » by Sixerscan » Thu Aug 3, 2017 3:29 am

kuclas wrote:
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kuclas wrote:Issue is if Embiid is healthy and plays 60 games. Averages say 25/11 with 3 blocks and 3 assists a game playing 30 minutes.

If they don't extend him before the end of training camp.

In 2018 while the sixers can match any offer. Teams can give Embiid a 4 year max deal but essentially a player option after 1 year. So it sets Embiid up for a huge payday in 2019 if he decides to opt out and he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


Can't have a player option with years after the player option.

Offer a 5 year max and teams can't offer less than 3 years.

Not that I want to go into free agency with him. Lock him up.


Hmm. I thought they could offer Embiid sometype of kevin Durant/Lebron James deal. Durant and Lebron both opted out after 1 year

Well they only signed for two years total (one plus the player option)
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#85 » by TeamHigh » Thu Aug 3, 2017 7:51 am

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jbent87 wrote:Gotta avoid maxing Embiid right now bc of obvious injury-related issues. Have his 2nd deal be Currys less than max deal and that will pave the way to really add to this team in a year or so when it's ready.


That's making the bad assumption he would accept that deal and that another team like say the Nets won't offer him a ridiculous amount more and roll the dice on his health.

A Curry-like deal is a lot of wishful thinking.

The thing is, nobody thought Curry was a max-level talent at the time. His MVP level production came much later. At the time, people thought $11 million a year was an overpay for him. The deal demonstrated how much trust Golden State had in him.

People don't realize that Curry in recent years had BOTH an uptick in health AND form.

This is very different from Embiid's situation, where everyone and their mother knows he's easily a max-level talent if he can be healthy.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#86 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Aug 3, 2017 7:52 am

kuclas wrote:Issue is if Embiid is healthy and plays 60 games. Averages say 25/11 with 3 blocks and 3 assists a game playing 30 minutes.

If they don't extend him before the end of training camp.

In 2018 while the sixers can match any offer. Teams can give Embiid a 4 year max deal but essentially a player option after 1 year. So it sets Embiid up for a huge payday in 2019 if he decides to opt out and he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


Well the contract stuff has been pointed out, but the 60 games you stated is the big deal. Noone knows what he will put up with Simmons and Fultz yet.

It is a hard situation for the front office, but you just have to wait. I believe Embiid has the talent to carry on the tradition of the great real centers of the past.....and make the position important again. He could make all this talk of wings and small ball just laughable.

Small ball is great right now cause of GS and we don't have anyone like Embiid on the court, anywhere. Don't get Shaq or other ol' school bigs started on it, there aren't any great bigs in the game right now or recently, they all suck. Its up to Embiid and the freakin medical staff to get him on the court to show it.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#87 » by Tiny ball » Thu Aug 3, 2017 9:11 am

TeamHigh wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
jbent87 wrote:Gotta avoid maxing Embiid right now bc of obvious injury-related issues. Have his 2nd deal be Currys less than max deal and that will pave the way to really add to this team in a year or so when it's ready.


That's making the bad assumption he would accept that deal and that another team like say the Nets won't offer him a ridiculous amount more and roll the dice on his health.

A Curry-like deal is a lot of wishful thinking.

The thing is, nobody thought Curry was a max-level talent at the time. His MVP level production came much later. At the time, people thought $11 million a year was an overpay for him. The deal demonstrated how much trust Golden State had in him.

People don't realize that Curry in recent years had BOTH an uptick in health AND form.

This is very different from Embiid's situation, where everyone and their mother knows he's easily a max-level talent if he can be healthy.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#88 » by Tiny ball » Thu Aug 3, 2017 9:15 am

TeamHigh wrote:
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jbent87 wrote:Gotta avoid maxing Embiid right now bc of obvious injury-related issues. Have his 2nd deal be Currys less than max deal and that will pave the way to really add to this team in a year or so when it's ready.


That's making the bad assumption he would accept that deal and that another team like say the Nets won't offer him a ridiculous amount more and roll the dice on his health.

A Curry-like deal is a lot of wishful thinking.

The thing is, nobody thought Curry was a max-level talent at the time. His MVP level production came much later. At the time, people thought $11 million a year was an overpay for him. The deal demonstrated how much trust Golden State had in him.

People don't realize that Curry in recent years had BOTH an uptick in health AND form.

This is very different from Embiid's situation, where everyone and their mother knows he's easily a max-level talent if he can be healthy.

Anyone watching GS should have known Curry was going to be one of the best players in the NBA. I did. I would have taken him number one in the NBA draft.
Curry played in lots of games nothing like Embiids
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#89 » by Tiny ball » Thu Aug 3, 2017 9:51 am

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kuclas wrote:Issue is if Embiid is healthy and plays 60 games. Averages say 25/11 with 3 blocks and 3 assists a game playing 30 minutes.

If they don't extend him before the end of training camp.

In 2018 while the sixers can match any offer. Teams can give Embiid a 4 year max deal but essentially a player option after 1 year. So it sets Embiid up for a huge payday in 2019 if he decides to opt out and he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


Well the contract stuff has been pointed out, but the 60 games you stated is the big deal. Noone knows what he will put up with Simmons and Fultz yet.

It is a hard situation for the front office, but you just have to wait. I believe Embiid has the talent to carry on the tradition of the great real centers of the past.....and make the position important again. He could make all this talk of wings and small ball just laughable.

Small ball is great right now cause of GS and we don't have anyone like Embiid on the court, anywhere. Don't get Shaq or other ol' school bigs started on it, there aren't any great bigs in the game right now or recently, they all suck. Its up to Embiid and the freakin medical staff to get him on the court to show it.

The guys​ in Utah and Denver are very cool players.

Good luck with him and your medical staff.

Shame Hinkle is not there. I would like to see what he would do after this season
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#90 » by Sixerscan » Thu Aug 3, 2017 11:37 am

Tbc, a "curry like deal" under the current cap would still be like $80 million over 4 years.
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Post#92 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Aug 3, 2017 2:43 pm

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Man if only Biid could stay healthy!! I swear the guy reminds me of a hyrbid of The Dream n Shaq. Not only does Philly deserve to have this guy but the league needs him to show this nonsense about the C being dead is all made up but they we simply had a drought of talent at the position. Anytime I see him on the court he seems like the best player out there unless of course it's against maybe LeBron or KD.
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Post#94 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Aug 3, 2017 3:18 pm

I have no idea why they included CJ or Dirk's name.


Joel Emibiid: So smooth, too strong....unguardable.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#95 » by eyeatoma » Fri Aug 4, 2017 10:22 am

Not sure if this was already posted, but I think his knee is fine... Much more of what we like to see... Jumper is wet, great post moves, moving well, and some nice dunks!

Pray guys! He'll bring us a chip if he stays healthy!

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Post#96 » by cksdayoff » Fri Aug 4, 2017 11:52 am

Elite shooter in a 7"3' 260 lb frame
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Post#97 » by emptygator » Fri Aug 4, 2017 12:32 pm

Looks a lot bigger than 260.

Can anyone remember a player so strong and big who had such a soft touch? I always thought that players who were more muscle bound always had less consistency on their jumper.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#98 » by BullyKing » Fri Aug 4, 2017 12:36 pm

emptygator wrote:Looks a lot bigger than 260.

Can anyone remember a player so strong and big who had such a soft touch? I always thought that players who were more muscle bound always had less consistency on their jumper.


Embiid's mid-range game reminds me of Ewing. The main difference is Ewing was reliant on turnarounds to create space for his jumper whereas Embiid is often given the space because the defender fears the drive.
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Post#99 » by eyeatoma » Fri Aug 4, 2017 12:53 pm

LMAO, did anyone see this?

Hilarious, looks like they'll have some good chemistry this year...

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Post#100 » by Sixersftw » Fri Aug 4, 2017 1:44 pm

emptygator wrote:Looks a lot bigger than 260.

Can anyone remember a player so strong and big who had such a soft touch? I always thought that players who were more muscle bound always had less consistency on their jumper.


There are very few. Ewing was mentioned and, IIRC, Yao Ming's jumper was pretty wet. Even the bigs that are coming up now don't have Embiid's touch (Gasol, Lopez, Boogie) or Size/Strength (KAT).
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