bmurph128 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:bmurph128 wrote:
It's so frustrating that people keep coming back with this.
Of course nobody can stop KD, just like nobody can stop LeBron - by that logic, doesn't it mean that we certainly should not have LeBron guarding KD???? He's still going to get his, but LeBron is expending too much energy trying to stop him.
We just need another long wing that's decent defensively to guard KD down the stretch. LeBron is best defensively when he can help.
I actually think that Barnes and/or Noel would give Durant fits. A lot of his game is I'll just shoot over you because I'm really tall & have a ridiculous wing span. Dallas is a dark horse candidate for Kyrie IMO b/c of this.
I didn't even think about Barnes.
This would be awesome if it happened.
If it happened how do you think the rotations would play out?
Frustrating, only because you didn't name anyone. JBK helped you out by using actual names.
Its much easier for the rest of to discuss an actual player and our thoughts on the possibility of adding an actual player.
I agree that adding Noel would be awesome, but how do we do that?
He's not under contract and he and his agent were expecting teams to offer him the max of $146.5 over five years. I don't know how anyone thinks he's worth that or how we'd give up that much in salary on an offer a young team like Dallas would like.
Oh wait, what about swinging Bender to the Mavs in a three way? Mavs are balking at those dollars and may appreciate a cheaper offensive big who Dirk can mentor. Maybe the same Suns offer to us, Noel to us and the Cavs send Bender and Osman, a pick and some salary (Stump or Frye or whatever works) to Dallas. Two young players and a pick for a signed Noel, which saves Cuban a pile of cash as well, seems a very fair offer. Also makes Cavs better defensively at two positions. Just a thought... I'm really not focused solely on Bender. I wish we had some better offer to be truthful, but sometimes its best to work with what you got. Making LeBron happy is mission number one and imho that looks more and more like trading Kyrie is necessary. I also don't feel like offers are going to get better as training camp approaches. If we stay put its likely to stay that way a while. The Suns Bledsoe, Bender, pick offer doesn't improve the Cavs right now, but it gives back some flexibility to do things like above because there is value to a guy like Bender and that pick, which can be moved for something else. In the right scenario the Grizzlies, Pistons, etc. would absolutely give up their guy for Bender and a pick.. and we could sweeten with Osman or another pick. Imho this is the most likely scenario for our new front office. One deal for Kyrie and then a later deal after we figure out how that gigantic change has affected the roster. Though i'd love to get better instantly, I'm open to getting better a bit later as well, because those may be the cards were dealt. I think in part, after seeing LeBron dominate them for years, some teams are less willing to help him now.
Kyrie most of the time when he shoots starts with the ball and then dribbles a while then shoots. -statistical analysis from a 'longtime' Cavs fan (June 2017)