Jesse Litsch or Gustavo Chacin

[Jesus_Loves_Artest]

Wait until Litsch has been around the league a couple of times... Chacin is a proven major league starter, albeit an injury prone one.

[OldNo7]

Wait until Litsch has been around the league a couple of times... Chacin is a proven major league starter, albeit an injury prone one.

Proven to get a +5 ERA

[Jesus_Loves_Artest]

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Proven to get a +5 ERA

His ERA in the 5-6 range makes him a #4-5 starter in this league.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/artic ... 4-starter/

[TR50]

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His ERA in the 5-6 range makes him a #4-5 starter in this league.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/artic ... 4-starter/

and ERA in the 5-6 zone is horrible, that would almost mean your offense would HAVE to get 6-7 runs every 5th day exactly....chacin i overrated

[Jesus_Loves_Artest]

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and ERA in the 5-6 zone is horrible, that would almost mean your offense would HAVE to get 6-7 runs every 5th day exactly....chacin i overrated

As he is accustomed to going around 6 innings/start, an ERA of 5 to 6 would correspond to him giving up 3.33 to 4 runs / start. Many of the games will be decided by the bullpen.

I could actually live with Gus going 9 innings every start and giving up 6 runs... I'll trade the losses where Jays don't score more than 6 runs for the bullpen rest he would provide

[TR50]

i disagree, if you put him out even longer, the more chances you'll inflate his ERA even more, his bad outings and the amount of runs he gives up is more often than not the reason he gets yanked from a game

[Jesus_Loves_Artest]

i disagree, if you put him out even longer, the more chances you'll inflate his ERA even more, his bad outings and the amount of runs he gives up is more often than not the reason he gets yanked from a game

No pitcher is gonna be able to physically average 9 innings /game, I didn't mean it that way. I was just playing around with numbers to come up with a weird hypothetical situation for my own amusement. Apologies

[TR50]

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No pitcher is gonna be able to physically average 9 innings /game, I didn't mean it that way. I was just playing around with numbers to come up with a weird hypothetical situation for my own amusement. Apologies

lol no need, everyone has their right to think whatever thay want, i just think chacin is not very good

[Geddy]

jeez you make it sound like he got all his 25 wins by some sort of pure dumb luck

[SmallTownJournalist303]

I wouldn't say it's pure dumb luck; I'd say it's a case of a lefty with a tricky delivery who took advantage of some unsuspecting hitters for a season. This happens all the time.
Do I think he could be our #4/5 starter? Maybe. But I wouldn't give him too many more chances.