Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIV

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'd say the single biggest problem this team faces is how to upgrade at starting PF. If we were able to get someone who was good, young & underpaid our team would improve a lot.

(Of course, a guy like that would improve any team at any position! ).

The obvious candidates to be traded are either Gortat or Mahinmi. I'd much rather trade Mahinmi, but I see no likely takers (& I'm not interested in throwing a R1 pick to make the trade more attractive).

Wish we had Christian Wood instead of Chris McCullough....

Now would be the perfect time to try and over pay for Richaun Holmes. An unprotected 2019 a 2018 second and mahinmi for holmes, with the caveat that we pay half of mahinmis salary in cash to them, The salary figure doesn't really matter to them but if you can cut the actual money being paid in half that makes it more attractive. Money wise no does not make much sense, but if you want to get better and open up flexibility that's the way to do it over pay. Then you can bring in a serviceable enough back up center off the street or make some other moves. Then you have homles and morris as a pf tandem which would be killer.

Oh man... Gamby there is nothing in this world you like better than trading away draft picks. It's amazing, really.

Trading away your picks is how you get yourself in the salary bind we are in. No more of that.

Anyway, they aren't going to be interested in trading Holmes -- why would they be? You want Okafor? He's available.

Don't get me wrong -- I'd love to have Richaun Holmes. The way you get players like him is not "over pay" -- which anyway we can't afford to do -- it's by having a FO capable of doing outstanding player evaluation.

I would love for Okafor to become a Wizard.

I haven't looked at his numbers. I presume they're not good. However, I just believe Jamil scores so efficiently inside that his skill could help this team.

The NBA is trending towards spreading the court and hitting threes. Seems to me there is a possibility of buying low in a trade to acquire a young guy with potential for improvement.

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[Ruzious]

Count me in for Holmes. I also really like Covington on that Philly team - even though his shooting was way off for the first half of the season. He bounced back and had a 58% TS% in the 2nd half, so I'm guessing that's more like what he'll do next season. The thing about him is - he plays defense and gets his hands on so many deflections. Figure playing with Wall would help him on his corner 3 shooting. How bout this trade - Otto for Holmes, Covington and Anderson. Throw in McClellan for Bayless for cap reasons. Wiz save a lot of money - though we might use a bunch of it to re-sign Covington next season. Sixers really don't need Holmes. I guess we don't need to include Anderson, but I like him as a player who could develop as a 3 and D wing, and I'm still not sure about Oubre. Small ball lineup could have Holmes at center and Covington at the 4.

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Count me in for Holmes. I also really like Covington on that Philly team - even though his shooting was way off for the first half of the season. He bounced back and had a 58% TS% in the 2nd half, so I'm guessing that's more like what he'll do next season. The thing about him is - he plays defense and gets his hands on so many deflections. Figure playing with Wall would help him on his corner 3 shooting. How bout this trade - Otto for Holmes, Covington and Anderson. Throw in McClellan for Bayless for cap reasons. Wiz save a lot of money - though we might use a bunch of it to re-sign Covington next season. Sixers really don't need Holmes. I guess we don't need to include Anderson, but I like him as a player who could develop as a 3 and D wing, and I'm still not sure about Oubre. Small ball lineup could have Holmes at center and Covington at the 4.

Holmes is a Center. That's what he's played for Philly, not PF. Can he play the 4? No one knows.

Anderson has really played well in the league so far. & Covington is a definite bargain. He had a down senior year in college & went undrafted. He's a solid player off the bench.

The real bargain on that squad, however, is McConnell, who is a tremendous point guard -- 6th in the league in assists/40 minutes. & that's on a team that shoots poorly! Unfortunately, McConnell also shoots poorly. Does everything else well, however. & makes $1.6m !!

I tell you what, if we'd had McConnell, Holmes, Covington & Anderson as the first 4 off our bench last year, we'd have won the East going away. Plus, those guys will make a combined total of $6m this year! Wow....

But, I would never do the trade you suggest. Otto Porter is too good to trade away.

However, I'd be happy to trade Morris, Smith, Satoransky, McCullough & Frazier (if we were able to trade him yet) for those 4 guys & even take Okafor off their hands too. I don't think they'd make that trade, however.

How about something more modest: Morris & Smith for Okafor, Holmes & Covington?

They might just be dumb enough to think that Morris would help them. We'd waive McCullough & still help our tax situation a little.

[Ruzious]

PIF, maybe you can spruce that offer up with water-front property in the Carribean.

Hasn't Holmes played with Noel/Okafor/Embiid? If yes - at least with Okafor and/or Embiid, he's played at least some PF.

I don't think they want to give away McCullough - probably because they've seen him play but also to break in Fultz and not put too much presure on him. But once Fultz is established, he could be available. I have no idea how they'll use Simmons. There's lots of parts there. Parts is parts. But when will the parts become a team?

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PIF, maybe you can spruce that offer up with water-front property in the Carribean.

Hasn't Holmes played with Noel/Okafor/Embiid? If yes - at least with Okafor and/or Embiid, he's played at least some PF.

I don't think they want to give away McCullough - probably because they've seen him play but also to break in Fultz and not put too much presure on him. But once Fultz is established, he could be available. I have no idea how they'll use Simmons. There's lots of parts there. Parts is parts. But when will the parts become a team?

You write "McCullough" -- but I think you mean McConnell. You are probably right; otoh, they have Bayless. But... I still think you're right.

I don't think they're likely to trade Holmes or Covington either for that matter.

[Ruzious]

PIF, maybe you can spruce that offer up with water-front property in the Carribean.

Hasn't Holmes played with Noel/Okafor/Embiid? If yes - at least with Okafor and/or Embiid, he's played at least some PF.

I don't think they want to give away McCullough - probably because they've seen him play but also to break in Fultz and not put too much presure on him. But once Fultz is established, he could be available. I have no idea how they'll use Simmons. There's lots of parts there. Parts is parts. But when will the parts become a team?

You write "McCullough" -- but I think you mean McConnell. You are probably right; otoh, they have Bayless. But... I still think you're right.

I don't think they're likely to trade Holmes or Covington either for that matter.

Yes, thank you for the correction. I'm just not sure how Holmes is going to get any minutes - sans a trade. He's got 2 centers ahead of him - and 2 PFs - if they use Simmons at PF.

[dckingsfan]

So, what you are saying is the Sixers are stacked??

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Hmm. Carrick Felix.

Know nothing about him.

But looking at his G string league stats and the fact that he's been out of the league for 4 years makes me think a championship must be just around the corner.

Either that or he's an animated cat from a 1930s cartoon.

[montestewart]

Hmm. Carrick Felix.

Know nothing about him.

But looking at his G string league stats and the fact that he's been out of the league for 4 years makes me think a championship must be just around the corner.

Either that or he's an animated cat from a 1930s cartoon.

You'll laugh so much your sides will ache...

Watch on YouTube

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Hmm. Carrick Felix.

Know nothing about him.

But looking at his G string league stats and the fact that he's been out of the league for 4 years makes me think a championship must be just around the corner.

Either that or he's an animated cat from a 1930s cartoon.

Can't shoot. But he makes up for it by being unable to do anything else either.

[NatP4]

Pierce retired. For that reason you wouldn't need to trade for him.

Being retired means that he isn't available as a FA either. If he wanted to play he wouldn't have retired.

Why did he retire? Because he has nothing left. If he played this year it would be his twentieth NBA season.

Pierce played well for us three seasons ago. Last year with the Clippers he only played 275 minutes. He's done.

If he were available, if he were the old Paul Pierce, how can you imagine that anyone in his right mind would those 4 scrubs in return for him.

I'll take PP in a suit over those 4 scrubs

You know, nat, if you propose trading for a guy who has retired, & you propose making a trade that anyway would break the rules on our side (Frazier can't be traded until December I believe), then maybe you ought not to defend the trade when someone mentions some of the problems with it.

Anybody would take Paul Pierce -- when he was the player he was -- for those guys. & no one would trade that Paul Pierce for those guys, so what's the point of proposing it?

As to the real Paul Pierce, the guy who's going to turn 40 in 5 weeks & who is a retired NBA player -- that guy isn't someone you want.

I think you're missing my point PIF. I don't want those 4 on the roster at all, Paul Pierce brought the "it" factor to this team, I literally think this team would be better off without those 4 scrubs playing at all.

just like Burke, Smith, Nicholson, Thornton, Bojan, Jennings last season.

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Not missing your point, nat. Paul Pierce is retired; he couldn't bring an "it" factor.

Moreover, the year he was here we started 19-6 -- mostly powered by Rasual Butler's Superman imitation. We went 27-30 the rest of the year despite Pierce's "it"-ness.

[NatP4]

Not missing your point, nat. Paul Pierce is retired; he couldn't bring an "it" factor.

Moreover, the year he was here we started 19-6 -- mostly powered by Rasual Butler's Superman imitation. We went 27-30 the rest of the year despite Pierce's "it"-ness.

And were one wall injury away from the ECF. Pierce brought the "it" factor. It rubbed off on Beal and Otto.

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Not missing your point, nat. Paul Pierce is retired; he couldn't bring an "it" factor.

Moreover, the year he was here we started 19-6 -- mostly powered by Rasual Butler's Superman imitation. We went 27-30 the rest of the year despite Pierce's "it"-ness.

And were one wall injury away from the ECF. Pierce brought the "it" factor. It rubbed off on Beal and Otto.

People have been incanting that religious formula ever since. Of course, Lowry being injured for Toronto, Atlanta injuries, etc. have no bearing on the matter. Give it up.

Anyway, that was a long time ago. Back when Paul Pierce was a player in the NBA. Which he no longer is & will never be again.

[payitforward]

Don't know where this fits, but I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of college. & now, many years later , he may finally be ready:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20729156/eurobasket-2017-final-anthony-randolph-potential-nba-fit

[dangermouse]

I wondered what happened to Randolph, he seemed to have borderline allstar potential at times. I'd be down to give him a chance.

[NatP4]

Don't know where this fits, but I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of college. & now, many years later , he may finally be ready:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20729156/eurobasket-2017-final-anthony-randolph-potential-nba-fit

Am I reading this correctly? he averaged 9&4 in euroleague?

[popper]

Don't know where this fits, but I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of college. & now, many years later , he may finally be ready:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20729156/eurobasket-2017-final-anthony-randolph-potential-nba-fit

Thanks for the link. Intriguing. Would he play the 4? How much do you think he would cost and who would we cut?

[Dat2U]

Don't know where this fits, but I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of college. & now, many years later , he may finally be ready:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20729156/eurobasket-2017-final-anthony-randolph-potential-nba-fit

Me too. It would be nice to kick the tires on him but alas Ernie is probably saying "we like what we have."

I think he's probably a playmaking 4. I doubt he defends well enough at the C position.

[NatP4]

Don't know where this fits, but I really liked Anthony Randolph coming out of college. & now, many years later , he may finally be ready:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20729156/eurobasket-2017-final-anthony-randolph-potential-nba-fit

Me too. It would be nice to kick the tires on him but alas Ernie is probably saying "we like what we have."

I think he's probably a playmaking 4. I doubt he defends well enough at the C position.

The worst GM in the Turkish d league would have the common sense to cut McCullough and sign someone like Randolph.

Not Ernie