Eric Bledsoe

[Revived]

Yesterday at 2:30, long before Eric and McD talked, a poster at phx-Suns.net posted this:

“User avatarSuperbone
Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:31 pm
Hey, maybe he was in a beauty salon with his wife when he made the tweet? I'd want outta there too!”

Now you tell me. Did Eric Bledsoe even come up with his lame excuse himself? ERIC BLEDSOE GOT HIS LAME EXCUSE FROM A FAN POST ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!!!!


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2:31?

Gambo already posted at 2:22 that it was hair salon

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I think Gambo texted Bledsoe and found out or McD & Sarver had a phone conversation with Bledsoe and Bledsoe told them that.

Poster at phx-suns.net probably got it from Gambo.

[DirtyDez]

Just say no to Mudiay. They'd waste two years trying to fix him.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Disgruntled Trade History:

Dragic: 1st Rounder, 1st Rounder, Granger, Salmons
Thomas: 1st Rounder, Thornton
Morris: 1st Rounder, Humphries, Blair
Knight: No Offer

McDonough has historically traded for picks with salary fillers but with 78 games still to go I think he might be targetting a young PG as more of a player swap.

[Qwigglez]

Disgruntled Trade History:

Dragic: 1st Rounder, 1st Rounder, Granger, Salmons
Thomas: 1st Rounder, Thornton
Morris: 1st Rounder, Humphries, Blair
Knight: No Offer

McDonough has historically traded for picks with salary fillers but with 78 games still to go I think he might be targetting a young PG as more of a player swap.

We have gotten plenty of picks and they are doing nothing for us. No more!

If I'm the Suns, I stand firm in taking on a legit young player.
Nuggets - Jamal Murray/Faried for Bledsoe/2018 Miami 1st
Knicks - Frank Ntickle/Noah for Bledsoe

Bucks - Brogdon/Parker/Henson/Delly for Bledsoe/Chandler/Chriss/ 2018 pick swap (with Miami's pick, Bucks get the better of the two).

I don't even care that we take on bad contracts, the Suns are getting anyone in free agency anyway. Best bet is to get young players that can't leave like Jabari. Giving up Chriss sucks but it gives the Bucks a sense of relief of giving up two young players for Bledsoe. They likely get a better pick with the Miami pick too. Greek freak is going to need some help, and Bledsoe is definitely a huge upgrade.
Bledsoe vs the top East teams last year:
Boston: 28 points, 9 assist, 6 boards, 45% FG (1 game)
Cleveland: 26.5 points, 8.5 assist, 4 boards, 3 steals 50% FG (2 games)
Washington: 29.5 points, 5.5 assist, 6 boards, 1 block, 44% FG (2 games
Raptors: 31 points, 11.5 assist, 5.5 boards, 1 block, 1.5 steals (2 games)

Those are the best teams in the East, and he's putting up very elite stats, despite playing with a bunch of scrubs. He brings it against playoff teams.

[Mulhollanddrive]

We need a PG who can play defense next to Booker so Ntilikina or Brogdon are my preferred ones.

[cedric76]

Augustin, Biyombo, OKC 1st

that was a good one

Best Orlando would do is

augustin + hezonja + okc 1st

But I think suns can find better than that

[cedric76]

We need a PG who can play defense next to Booker so Ntilikina or Brogdon are my preferred ones.

I agree cause Booker is really bad in D

[Buckfan76]

As a Bucks fan what would you think about this deal?
Pistons get: Monroe, M.Chriss
Suns get: E.Mudiay, Barton, Drummond, maybe a pick from Nuggets
Nuggets get: J.Parker , Dellvedova
Cleveland gets: Faired
Bucks get: Bledsoe, Chandler, Shumpert
You guys get Drummond who supposedly you guys have wanted and Barton to be your 6th man.

[Kerrsed]

As a Bucks fan what would you think about this deal?
Pistons get: Monroe, M.Chriss
Suns get: E.Mudiay, Barton, Drummond, maybe a pick from Nuggets
Nuggets get: J.Parker , Dellvedova
Cleveland gets: Faired
Bucks get: Bledsoe, Chandler, Shumpert
You guys get Drummond who supposedly you guys have wanted and Barton to be your 6th man.

IN A HEARTBEAT!

But the thing is that 3 team trades are hard to swing, and 4 team trades are damn near impossible, and LOFNL @ a 5 team trade.

[paulpressey25]

As a Bucks fan, would offer:

2018 1st
Dj Wilson (our 1st round pick from four-months ago)
Greg Monroe and his $18.5mm expiring contract.

With Monroe you either send that contract to a team like the Lakers that wants to clear cap room to sign free agents now or you guys can wait until the trade deadline on February 8th and use it then.

That's not a bad package if the desire is to move Bledsoe out now. At least with Wilson and the first rounder you aren't taking on failed players like Faried and Mudiay.

[WeekapaugGroove]

As a Bucks fan, would offer:

2018 1st
Dj Wilson (our 1st round pick from four-months ago)
Greg Monroe and his $18.5mm expiring contract.

With Monroe you either send that contract to a team like the Lakers that wants to clear cap room to sign free agents now or you guys can wait until the trade deadline on February 8th and use it then.

That's not a bad package if the desire is to move Bledsoe out now. At least with Wilson and the first rounder you aren't taking on failed players like Faried and Mudiay.

PP I think thats fine from a value standpoint. Where I think it gets tricky is Wilson is so similar to chriss and bender being another raw guy whos best position is PF so its gets hard to utilize and develop him.

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[paulpressey25]

PP I think thats fine from a value standpoint. Where I think it gets tricky is Wilson is so similar to chriss and bender being another raw guy whos best position is PF so its gets hard to utilize and develop him.

That's where you guys have to decide whether you want fit or value. Don't think Bledsoe right now carries the intrinsic asset value to provide both.

Denver offering Mudiay and a first (if true) isn't a bad offer and probably might work better. That said, if I was a rebuilding team I'd want to maximize my chances. Wilson, a MKE first (which could/should be the same/in Denver range) and whatever Monroe produces might give you more shots at finding the next core player.

The Bucks board isn't quite into the Monroe trade value thing but someone at the deadline will be desperate to avoid a luxury tax bill and or free up cap money to pursue LeBron.

[bwgood77]

PP I think thats fine from a value standpoint. Where I think it gets tricky is Wilson is so similar to chriss and bender being another raw guy whos best position is PF so its gets hard to utilize and develop him.

That's where you guys have to decide whether you want fit or value. Don't think Bledsoe right now carries the intrinsic asset value to provide both.

Denver offering Mudiay and a first (if true) isn't a bad offer and probably might work better. That said, if I was a rebuilding team I'd want to maximize my chances. Wilson, a MKE first (which could/should be the same/in Denver range) and whatever Monroe produces might give you more shots at finding the next core player.

The Bucks board isn't quite into the Monroe trade value thing but someone at the deadline will be desperate to avoid a luxury tax bill and or free up cap money to pursue LeBron.

Yes, I said the same as WG on the trade board when the same offer was mentioned...value it works but then we'd have a ton of bigs (particularly young raw forwards). Can Wilson ever play C? I guess if/when we move on from Len, Chandler, Monroe, we would have Chriss, Bender, Wilson and Alan Williams as bigs. If one of the first three could play primarily C it should work. They are all modern day decent bigs (or potential to be so) with the 3 pt shooting, block shot potential.

It's probably better than Mudiay and a first unless we really like Mudiay, which I doubt. Arthur, if part of that trade could be useful though, but at least Monroe expires.

[WeekapaugGroove]

PP I think thats fine from a value standpoint. Where I think it gets tricky is Wilson is so similar to chriss and bender being another raw guy whos best position is PF so its gets hard to utilize and develop him.

That's where you guys have to decide whether you want fit or value. Don't think Bledsoe right now carries the intrinsic asset value to provide both.

Denver offering Mudiay and a first (if true) isn't a bad offer and probably might work better. That said, if I was a rebuilding team I'd want to maximize my chances. Wilson, a MKE first (which could/should be the same/in Denver range) and whatever Monroe produces might give you more shots at finding the next core player.

The Bucks board isn't quite into the Monroe trade value thing but someone at the deadline will be desperate to avoid a luxury tax bill and or free up cap money to pursue LeBron.

Maybe it's the Bucks fan in me having a bias but I think there's a good chance the Milwaukee pick ends up 10 spots lower than Denver's this coming draft. With or without Bledsoe they have a good shot at being a top 3 team in the east where as with how tough the west is the best I can see denver is around 6 out west. I think Wilson is a decent prospect but on the Suns he probably has to go to the G-league to get run because they absolutely have to see what they have in Chriss and Bender these next 78 games because they could end up having to decide on another PF in Bagley in the next draft even more complicating the PF situation. I'm sure Phoenix would much prefer Brogdon or Thon but the bucks don't want to do either one or I would guess this deal would already be done. Now back to Denver I'm not a fan of Mudiay so that deal doesn't super excite me but I can at least see why the Suns would take a gamble on a very physically gifted player who would have a clear path to playing time at the PG spot. As I mentioned in the other thread I would personally perfer to target French Frank from NY even if it meant taking a contract like Noah or adding an asset like the Miami pick.

[jcsunsfan]

Yesterday at 2:30, long before Eric and McD talked, a poster at phx-Suns.net posted this:

“User avatarSuperbone
Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:31 pm
Hey, maybe he was in a beauty salon with his wife when he made the tweet? I'd want outta there too!”

Now you tell me. Did Eric Bledsoe even come up with his lame excuse himself? ERIC BLEDSOE GOT HIS LAME EXCUSE FROM A FAN POST ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!!!!


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

2:31?

Gambo already posted at 2:22 that it was hair salon

Read on Twitter

I think Gambo texted Bledsoe and found out or McD & Sarver had a phone conversation with Bledsoe and Bledsoe told them that.

Poster at phx-suns.net probably got it from Gambo.

So he was still before Gambo.

[jcsunsfan]

As a Bucks fan what would you think about this deal?
Pistons get: Monroe, M.Chriss
Suns get: E.Mudiay, Barton, Drummond, maybe a pick from Nuggets
Nuggets get: J.Parker , Dellvedova
Cleveland gets: Faired
Bucks get: Bledsoe, Chandler, Shumpert
You guys get Drummond who supposedly you guys have wanted and Barton to be your 6th man.

IN A HEARTBEAT!

But the thing is that 3 team trades are hard to swing, and 4 team trades are damn near impossible, and LOFNL @ a 5 team trade.

I would consider this one--especially with the pick.

Bledsoe, Chandler, Chriss for Drummond, Barton, Mudiay and a first round pick. It would leave us thin at pf though. If we could switch Warren for Chriss it would be better. But its hard to trade Warren now, with his new deal.

[Qwigglez]

I don't understand why the Nuggets want Parker when they got Millsap/Jokic & Hernangomez/Lyles. I'd love to trade Bledsoe for Drummond though, however I read that Embiid completely destroyed him in that recent game and Embiid said Drummond plays no defense. Not sure I want that combined with his lack of post moves / poor free throw percentages.

[bigfoot]

I am so glad Bledsoe opened his fat twitter mouth. It just shows how stupid of a player he is. He wants to be a leader but never has been. Mini-Lebron is an appropriate nickname. He will always be half of Lebron. Things that really bothered about Bledsoe were his shooting and his ability to get the ball to others. He just doesn't have the passing ability needed by a PG. I watch Booker, James, and Ulis and they all can make nice lobs and/or pocket passes to Chandler and Len in the pick-n-roll. Bledsoe just doesn't have the vision. Then he turns the ball over way too much.

[Mulhollanddrive]

He's a 6'1 SF.

[LukasBMW]

I'm honestly OK with losing Bledsoe for nothing at this point. Sure, he plays at an allstar level when he is healthy, but between his injury history and inconsistent effort/intensity, I'd dread handing him another fat deal.

We all knew that we HAD to trade him AND trade him soon or we would risk losing him for nothing. Now, the only thing that has changed is he has forced our hand.

Will McDonough pull off another heist? Or will this be the first trade where we settle for scraps? We'll find out soon. But I wouldn't put it past us to make Bledsoe sit at home until the deadline until we find the right deal. Sarver and McDonough always win at the "game of chicken" even if it means driving their own car over the cliff.