Booker or Kaminsky

clyde21 · Post #41 » by **clyde21** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:44 am

I'm not sure how this even a comparison honestly.

HoopsMalone · Post #42 » by **HoopsMalone** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:58 pm

I mean its incredibly early to even look at this type of stuff but Booker has a NEGATIVE win shares and a 125 defensive rating.

I'm not a huge proponent of win shares but when it's flashing negative you probably don't wanna be touting that player. And the Suns defense is just complete chaos right now.

The-Power · Post #43 » by **The-Power** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:05 pm

HoopsMalone wrote:And the Suns defense is just complete chaos right now.

Which is mainly why his individual DRTG looks so bad (in a whopping two-game-sample no less). You know how it's calculated, right? Booker isn't a good defender by any means but he's also just one piece of a much bigger problem as horrible defenses usually doesn't occur due to a solid-sized Guard not being a good defender.

HoopsMalone · Post #44 » by **HoopsMalone** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:13 pm

yeah the figure is just sorta eye popping. And booker is actually a horrible defender by every available metric so I wasn't basing this off of just the Suns two games this year

NotReady · Post #45 » by **NotReady** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:55 am

Still better as a player than Frank Kaminsky.

In2ition · Post #46 » by **In2ition** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:10 am

HoopsMalone wrote:yeah the figure is just sorta eye popping. And booker is actually a horrible defender by every available metric so I wasn't basing this off of just the Suns two games this year

His defense hasn't been horrible this year, but you wouldn't know it by looking at the stats. There too many things wrong with this young Suns team to really get true stats.

He played tonight, but clearly wasn't 100% after that nasty fall last night.

HoopsMalone · Post #47 » by **HoopsMalone** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:30 pm

I watched him last night and his PNR defense was some of the most eye gouging Ive ever seen. I really think he's hopeless on that end

Post #48 » by **bondom34** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:39 pm

Kind of a weird thing to bring up defense when it's not really Frank's strong point either. He's an unathletic stretch big.

In2ition · Post #49 » by **In2ition** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:38 am

HoopsMalone wrote:I watched him last night and his PNR defense was some of the most eye gouging Ive ever seen. I really think he's hopeless on that end

Did you see Bledsoe or Chandlers? There's made Booker look downright lockdown in PnR.

HoopsMalone · Post #50 » by **HoopsMalone** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:04 am

FRANK KAMINSKY JUST YOKED ALL OVER GIANNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS THREADS OVER ! THIS THREADS OVER BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post #51 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:31 am

Read on Twitter

Well that settles it.

In2ition · Post #52 » by **In2ition** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:04 pm

HoopsMalone wrote:FRANK KAMINSKY JUST YOKED ALL OVER GIANNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS THREADS OVER ! THIS THREADS OVER BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my. Didn't the Hornets lose and Kaminsky was -8 last night? I'm not sure how one dunk decided anything.

HoopsMalone · Post #53 » by **HoopsMalone** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:14 pm

Kaminsky was very good last night. He's a good player and Booker isn't... that's the difference. And the numbers will bear that out.

In2ition · Post #54 » by **In2ition** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:47 pm

This feels like wishful thinking on your part. Booker had an even better game than Kaminsky and his team won.

HoopsMalone · Post #55 » by **HoopsMalone** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:40 pm

Kaminsky with another huge game. As expected, the gap between Kaminsky and Booker is still gigantic this season.

Booker doesn't project well either... at some point we have to start looking at Booker's actual level of production and not just this "potential' everyone has randomly assigned him...

In2ition · Post #56 » by **In2ition** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:34 pm

Booker didn't shoot well, but he didn't have a bad game at all and he hit the big shots at the end to ice the game against the Jazz when it was starting to get tight. He had a positive +/- and contribited in many other ways last night. It was a good game, so I don't know what you are talking about.

In2ition · Post #57 » by **In2ition** » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:01 am

Oof, Kaminsky with a -23 +/- tonight in 30 minutes with 3-11 for 8 pts, 4 rbs, and 1 blk. Sounds like the Rockets took advantage of him on the floor. Might have won if he didn't play.
About that gap...

Jaivl · Post #58 » by **Jaivl** » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:22 pm

Is Booker vs Kaminsky the new Kobe vs KG?

In2ition · Post #59 » by **In2ition** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Read on Twitter

HoopsMalone · Post #60 » by **HoopsMalone** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:23 am

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21231844

Wow. We are all witnesses.