Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIV

[gambitx777]

Gortat for okafor stakus??

I would consider it because at least having Okafor on this team give us a higher ceiling. You stagger lineups and then trot out Okafor with the second team. I fully believe that he could be a stabilizing force for our bench. At the same time, Gortat has great chemistry with Wall.

Stauskas is awful. No interest in him.

How about Morris straight up for Okafor. Any thoughts?

Or Smith straight up for Okafor for that matter?

If you're not giving up much, it'd be worth taking a chance on Okafor. I don't have much interest in trading Gortat for him however.

I agree. I wouldn't mind trying to swing Ian and tim and 2018 second for bayless and okafur.

[prime1time]

Gortat for okafor stakus??

I would consider it because at least having Okafor on this team give us a higher ceiling. You stagger lineups and then trot out Okafor with the second team. I fully believe that he could be a stabilizing force for our bench. At the same time, Gortat has great chemistry with Wall.

Stauskas is awful. No interest in him.

How about Morris straight up for Okafor. Any thoughts?

Or Smith straight up for Okafor for that matter?

If you're not giving up much, it'd be worth taking a chance on Okafor. I don't have much interest in trading Gortat for him however.

I like Morris enough to where I'd play him in crunch time over Okafor. Morris is adequate from 3, can exploit mismatches against smaller players in the post and give the Wizards a level of toughness that we are sorely lacking. Trading our 1st round draft picks every year have left the cupboards bare. So frustrating.

[prime1time]

I would consider it because at least having Okafor on this team give us a higher ceiling. You stagger lineups and then trot out Okafor with the second team. I fully believe that he could be a stabilizing force for our bench. At the same time, Gortat has great chemistry with Wall.

Stauskas is awful. No interest in him.

How about Morris straight up for Okafor. Any thoughts?

Or Smith straight up for Okafor for that matter?

If you're not giving up much, it'd be worth taking a chance on Okafor. I don't have much interest in trading Gortat for him however.

I agree. I wouldn't mind trying to swing Ian and tim and 2018 second for bayless and okafur.

I'd be shocked if they took that. Would probably have to throw in a protected first. But I'd be for the trade. Bayless gives us a legit 3rd guard and Okafor stabilizes the bench and provides scoring. Hesitant to make any trade like that right now with a boogie trade being possible. With Oubre improving I feel like Oubre and a protected 1st with filler gets the job done. I really like Oubre though. He could be an absolute stud in 3 years.

[pcbothwel]

Stauskas is awful. No interest in him.

How about Morris straight up for Okafor. Any thoughts?

Or Smith straight up for Okafor for that matter?

If you're not giving up much, it'd be worth taking a chance on Okafor. I don't have much interest in trading Gortat for him however.

I agree. I wouldn't mind trying to swing Ian and tim and 2018 second for bayless and okafur.

I'd be shocked if they took that. Would probably have to throw in a protected first. But I'd be for the trade. Bayless gives us a legit 3rd guard and Okafor stabilizes the bench and provides scoring. Hesitant to make any trade like that right now with a boogie trade being possible. With Oubre improving I feel like Oubre and a protected 1st with filler gets the job done. I really like Oubre though. He could be an absolute stud in 3 years.

No chance I give up Oubre. He is a 21 y/o former lotto pick and elite HS recruit that has elite tools and motor. That is the recipe for success.
BTW. I know its only a 5 game sample size, but everyone should look at Otto vs Oubre is years 1-3 and see ridiculous similarities.

Otto per 36 (Pts / Rbd / Ast / TS / ORtg / DRtg / BPM)
2013-14 (20 y/o) 8.8 / 6.4 / 1.1 / 41% / 86 / 107 / -6.8
2014-15 (21 y/o) 11.2 / 5.6 / 1.6 / 52% / 105 / 104 / -0.4
2015-16 (22 y/o) 13.8 / 6.2 / 1.9 / 56% / 112 / 105 / 1.8

Oubre
2015-16 (20 y/o) 12.7/ 7.1/ 0.7/ 51% / 93 / 106 / -5.8
2016-17 (21 y/o) 11.2/ 5.9/ 1.1 / 52% / 104 / 110 / -2.3
2017-18 (22 y/o) 11.8/ 5.9/ 0.6/ 59% / 116 / 105 / 1.5


Guys... We might have the most deadly 1-4 in the NBA outside of GSW over the next 4+ years

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How about this trade with the Chicago Bulls:

Tomas Satoransky and Chris McCulloch for Cameron Payne and Bobby Portis?



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[NatP4]

I agree. I wouldn't mind trying to swing Ian and tim and 2018 second for bayless and okafur.

I'd be shocked if they took that. Would probably have to throw in a protected first. But I'd be for the trade. Bayless gives us a legit 3rd guard and Okafor stabilizes the bench and provides scoring. Hesitant to make any trade like that right now with a boogie trade being possible. With Oubre improving I feel like Oubre and a protected 1st with filler gets the job done. I really like Oubre though. He could be an absolute stud in 3 years.

No chance I give up Oubre. He is a 21 y/o former lotto pick and elite HS recruit that has elite tools and motor. That is the recipe for success.
BTW. I know its only a 5 game sample size, but everyone should look at Otto vs Oubre is years 1-3 and see ridiculous similarities.

Otto per 36 (Pts / Rbd / Ast / TS / ORtg / DRtg / BPM)
2013-14 (20 y/o) 8.8 / 6.4 / 1.1 / 41% / 86 / 107 / -6.8
2014-15 (21 y/o) 11.2 / 5.6 / 1.6 / 52% / 105 / 104 / -0.4
2015-16 (22 y/o) 13.8 / 6.2 / 1.9 / 56% / 112 / 105 / 1.8

Oubre
2015-16 (20 y/o) 12.7/ 7.1/ 0.7/ 51% / 93 / 106 / -5.8
2016-17 (21 y/o) 11.2/ 5.9/ 1.1 / 52% / 104 / 110 / -2.3
2017-18 (22 y/o) 11.8/ 5.9/ 0.6/ 59% / 116 / 105 / 1.5


Guys... We might have the most deadly 1-4 in the NBA outside of GSW over the next 4+ years

been saying this for years! no other team has a young core like this outside of GS! it fits the new NBA also

[NatP4]

How about this trade with the Chicago Bulls:

Tomas Satoransky and Chris McCulloch for Cameron Payne and Bobby Portis?



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Payne is a bust and Portis just assaulted and concussed a teammate lol. I'm looking at Jahlil Okafor and trying to unload Mahinmi on the sixers

[NatP4]

holy crap nevermind, why have Jahlil Okafor's advanced stats been so horrendous? is he really that bad?

[nate33]

How about this trade with the Chicago Bulls:

Tomas Satoransky and Chris McCulloch for Cameron Payne and Bobby Portis?



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Sure. It's basically Sato for Portis. Chicago is unlikely to agree unless they're really concerned about Portis' attitude.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How about this trade with the Chicago Bulls:

Tomas Satoransky and Chris McCulloch for Cameron Payne and Bobby Portis?



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Payne is a bust and Portis just assaulted and concussed a teammate lol. I'm looking at Jahlil Okafor and trying to unload Mahinmi on the sixers

Payne is better than Frazier.

Say what about Portis punching the hell out of Mirotic? Assaulted?! I'm sure he didn't do it for no reason. People make a federal offense out of a black player punching a white guy but if it had been the other way around nobody would say the same things about Mirotic.

I got to speak to Zach Randolph about 15 years ago. He had just punched the hell out of a teammate and broken a bone in the guy's face.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar punched the hell out of Kent Benson.

Michael Jordan punched the hell out of Steve Kerr.

In my opinion this deal is a steal if you can get it. I know Payne has put up really bad statistics and he does in fact look like a bust so far but I don't think he is one.

As for Okafor for Mahinmi, sure why not. How are the salaries going to match?


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[pcbothwel]

How about this trade with the Chicago Bulls:

Tomas Satoransky and Chris McCulloch for Cameron Payne and Bobby Portis?



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Sure. It's basically Sato for Portis. Chicago is unlikely to agree unless they're really concerned about Portis' attitude.

Im conflicted about it. i love Portis's attitude/demeanor, but for a "high floor/low ceiling" guy, he has been at the floor. Maybe they play him out of position at the 4 instead of the 5 as he should be, but Im not sure he does much besides rebound and hustle. He scores with moderate efficiency, but doesnt really spread the floor, doesnt pass, doesnt block shots, and doesnt get steals. There is a reason that RPM really doesnt like him

[gambitx777]

Number 1. me mister trade all the picks is super hesitant on trading a first for okafor. not 2018 and not unprotected for sure.
Hi advanced numbers are pretty bad, he has health and attitude issues and hes a top pick thats pretty much benched. righ now hes thomas robinson or anthony bennett levels of value. So no No kelley, no unprotected pick.
Look at there situation.
They have a player they want to move and don't want to pay, they are going down hill fast and they need money on the books.
Noe ian and tim for Bayless and okafur is my starting offer. I would then add a 2018 second and the draft rights to aaron white. then if they really push the issue. you can offer khris or a 2019 with some heavy protection, but nothing more its not worth it. Bayless upgrades our back up PG and gives us a true combo guard to use. and Okafur for 20 minutes a game can help on the bench with morris to cover his flaws.

[NatP4]

Number 1. me mister trade all the picks is super hesitant on trading a first for okafor. not 2018 and not unprotected for sure.
Hi advanced numbers are pretty bad, he has health and attitude issues and hes a top pick thats pretty much benched. righ now hes thomas robinson or anthony bennett levels of value. So no No kelley, no unprotected pick.
Look at there situation.
They have a player they want to move and don't want to pay, they are going down hill fast and they need money on the books.
Noe ian and tim for Bayless and okafur is my starting offer. I would then add a 2018 second and the draft rights to aaron white. then if they really push the issue. you can offer khris or a 2019 with some heavy protection, but nothing more its not worth it. Bayless upgrades our back up PG and gives us a true combo guard to use. and Okafur for 20 minutes a game can help on the bench with morris to cover his flaws.

I would trade a 2nd for Okafor if we could dump Mahinmi.

[gambitx777]

Number 1. me mister trade all the picks is super hesitant on trading a first for okafor. not 2018 and not unprotected for sure.
Hi advanced numbers are pretty bad, he has health and attitude issues and hes a top pick thats pretty much benched. righ now hes thomas robinson or anthony bennett levels of value. So no No kelley, no unprotected pick.
Look at there situation.
They have a player they want to move and don't want to pay, they are going down hill fast and they need money on the books.
Noe ian and tim for Bayless and okafur is my starting offer. I would then add a 2018 second and the draft rights to aaron white. then if they really push the issue. you can offer khris or a 2019 with some heavy protection, but nothing more its not worth it. Bayless upgrades our back up PG and gives us a true combo guard to use. and Okafur for 20 minutes a game can help on the bench with morris to cover his flaws.

I would trade a 2nd for Okafor if we could dump Mahinmi.

You look at their situation, what are they trying to do, cover the loss of a bad pick.
what are the positives for them, They get some assets, they get the trouble our of the way, get a back up center to hold the cap floor for them, and dump an aging point guard when they have more of a need to feed their young guards minutes than they have for the aging guard.

what do we get, an upgrade at back up guard, and we get a young center who is cheaper and more healthy than mahinmi. So it honestly aint a bad trade. Are there better in theory maybe. but its not crazy to think of.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I hope we keep our picks, Smith and/or Meeks opt out, and stretch Mahimni. We have to resign Kieff because we won't have cap room to replace him. And stop giving away 2nd rounders.

I don't want Bledsoe or Cousins near John Wall.

Ted Leonsis’s 10 point rebuilding plan:
"4. Commit to building around the draft. Invest in scouting, development, and a system. Articulate that system and stay with it so that all players feel comfortable— know the language— know what is expected of them— read the Oriole Way*. It worked and it is a great tutorial. Draft players that fit the system, not the best player. Draft the best player for the system. Don’t deviate or get seduced by agents, media demands, or by just stats or hype. Envision how this player will slide into your system."

Cousins was averaging 33/14/5 before his triple double in the win over Cleveland today.

[closg00]

Bulls picked-up Portis's option, he is going to be part of their re-build.

[payitforward]

How about this trade with the Chicago Bulls:

Tomas Satoransky and Chris McCulloch for Cameron Payne and Bobby Portis?

Payne is a bust and Portis just assaulted and concussed a teammate lol. I'm looking at Jahlil Okafor and trying to unload Mahinmi on the sixers

Payne is better than Frazier.

Say what about Portis punching the hell out of Mirotic? Assaulted?! I'm sure he didn't do it for no reason. People make a federal offense out of a black player punching a white guy but if it had been the other way around nobody would say the same things about Mirotic.

I got to speak to Zach Randolph about 15 years ago. He had just punched the hell out of a teammate and broken a bone in the guy's face.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar punched the hell out of Kent Benson.

Michael Jordan punched the hell out of Steve Kerr.

In my opinion this deal is a steal if you can get it. I know Payne has put up really bad statistics and he does in fact look like a bust so far but I don't think he is one. ...

I'd do that trade in a minute!! I'd do it twice in a minute if I could!! As nate mentioned, essentially it's Portis for Sato.

But... I don't think Payne is better than Frazier. & I sure as H#ll don't think it'd be any different if Mirotic had done to Portis what Portis did to Mirotic! It's not just "punched," man -- a lot worse. Your examples don't mean anything either. For one thing, Kerr started the brouhaha w/ Jordan; for another all Jabbar managed to do was to put himself out of action for 2 months by breaking his hand!

Still -- I'm all over that trade!

[CobraCommander]

Gortat and Morris for Boogie....

N.0. Either takes the trade or losing him in free agency-

[CobraCommander]

holy crap nevermind, why have Jahlil Okafor's advanced stats been so horrendous? is he really that bad?

Not getting time like Sato- Get some time with our second unit and who knows.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Payne is a bust and Portis just assaulted and concussed a teammate lol. I'm looking at Jahlil Okafor and trying to unload Mahinmi on the sixers

Payne is better than Frazier.

Say what about Portis punching the hell out of Mirotic? Assaulted?! I'm sure he didn't do it for no reason. People make a federal offense out of a black player punching a white guy but if it had been the other way around nobody would say the same things about Mirotic.

I got to speak to Zach Randolph about 15 years ago. He had just punched the hell out of a teammate and broken a bone in the guy's face.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar punched the hell out of Kent Benson.

Michael Jordan punched the hell out of Steve Kerr.

In my opinion this deal is a steal if you can get it. I know Payne has put up really bad statistics and he does in fact look like a bust so far but I don't think he is one. ...

I'd do that trade in a minute!! I'd do it twice in a minute if I could!! As nate mentioned, essentially it's Portis for Sato.

But... I don't think Payne is better than Frazier. & I sure as H#ll don't think it'd be any different if Mirotic had done to Portis what Portis did to Mirotic! It's not just "punched," man -- a lot worse. Your examples don't mean anything either. For one thing, Kerr started the brouhaha w/ Jordan; for another all Jabbar managed to do was to put himself out of action for 2 months by breaking his hand!

Still -- I'm all over that trade!

Mirotic charged at Portis. Portis was the one who ended it. If you don't believe me visit the Chicago board.