2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

[coolhandluke121]

I like Perez but him at 1B is a pretty big downgrade offensively, I do think Aguilar hits 800 OPS easy at 1b against lefties and maybe 850, Perez will struggle to reach 800 against lefties as I don't think he has done that thus far in his career and his low on base will always make it a struggle. The great thing about Perez is he enables the Brewers to keep a guy like Aguilar as Perez will give solid defense pretty much everywhere except SS and probably CF. if the Brewers find a better option at 1B, great but I don't think Perez is that guy.

I don't want him at 1b either. But I'd much rather give him and Broxton roster spots than Aguilar, and if that means having a terrible platoon rhb 1b for a while, fine. The point is not that Hernan can do it; the point is that Aguilar is hardly much better.

ETA: Aguilar's dWAR comes close to negating his offense. It's probably not a stretch to think Hernan's defense and baserunning would be borderline elite at 1b, making up for what would obviously be a negative WAR at the position.

[Kerb Hohl]

I'd much prefer Braun or Santana to want to play 1B and not be bad at it, of course. That's the most ideal roster makeup. Trade Aguilar off to someone for a low ceiling pitcher or something.

If none of that happens, I'll live with Aguilar. Bad defense and obviously LH-only, but it's not terrible to have him off the bench even against a power righty when you need some pop. You could do worse but I'd prefer they find better.

[mlloyd10]

Make a trade for Gordon, move Braun to 1st

Gordon
Santana
Braun
Shaw
Brinson
Phillips
Pina
Arcia

Done

[wichmae]

IF: C. Colabello, I. De Jesus Jr., N. Noonan, G. Noriega, Y. Rivera
OF: M. Reed
RHP: Y. Barrios, P. Berberet, H. Burgos, T. Cravy, T. Hissong, M. Ramsey, F. Snow, A. Ventura
LHP: A. Barbosa, S. Nolin, N. Ramirez

All have been released. Reed, Rivera, and Ramirez are mildly surprising. 35 players now on 40 man. Should have a mild flurry of moves here shortly before winter meetings start next month.

[Kerb Hohl]

Reed was always the prospect I never understood the hype for. No opinion on his release, because my opinion didn't mean he couldn't be a decent depth guy, but there always seemed to be some expectation that he may play into the future while he had subpar numbers all the way through the minors. I'm assuming there was some pedigree/tools that people liked.

[wichmae]

Reed was always the prospect I never understood the hype for. No opinion on his release, because my opinion didn't mean he couldn't be a decent depth guy, but there always seemed to be some expectation that he may play into the future while he had subpar numbers all the way through the minors. I'm assuming there was some pedigree/tools that people liked.

Had good speed. Good defender. Coulda play all OF spots and had some pop. Projected as a 4th OF always but never really could make contact enough and fell down the line. He'll get another shot somewhere because he has some tools. Probably a casualty of all the OF prospect we currently have.

[coolhandluke121]

I'm fine with releasing those scrubs. I know it is kind of a win-now thing, which isn't ideal, but it's not like they're trading their best prospects for immediate help. Just keep your fa signings under that give-up-a-pick threshold and you're golden.

[coolhandluke121]

Btw, you give up a pick for a $50m contract, right? I could make a case for giving Arrieta 1/$45m just for the hell of it.

[wichmae]

If the player got a QO and you sign them as a FA you surrender a pick.

[Outlander]

The Brewers would lose their third highest pick if they signed Arrieta so not as bad as previous seasons. That would have been Caden Lemons and his 1.493 million slot last year. However, the Brewers will get a CB-B pick instead of A in 2018 so the pick would be after the second round and approximately a $900,000 slot. The $50m amount you mentioned impacts what the team losing the player receives. The Brewers won't lose any player like that so not going to worry about it.

[wichmae]

Not a ton of options out there on the market for SF to find a CF. The only starting caliber FA in CF is Lorenzo Cain and I dont think theres a ton out there on the trade market as well. Could they be interested in someone like Broxton or maybe Perez? Broxton for Crick or Suarez works for me.

[mlloyd10]

Trade for Gordon
Move Braun to 1st

Sabathia - 2/$25
Hunter - 2/$10
Swarzak - 2/$15

Gordon - 2b
Santana - RF
Shaw - 3B
Braun - 1B
Brinson - LF
Phillips- CF
Pina - C
Arcia - SS

Anderson
Davis
Sabathia
Hader
Woodruff
(Nelson)

Suter
Hughes
Barnes
Wang
Hunter
Swarzak
Knebel

[Kerb Hohl]

Broxton would be a solid, cheap acquisition for SF.

His problem for the Brewers getting a haul is that he's on the wrong side of the platoon. I'm not sure if we'd be able to get a great relief prospect like Crick for him. Might be a bit cheaper of an asking price.

I'd imagine if they got Broxton he'd be in a 50/50 or 67/33 platoon with Span. Span gets the tough RH pitchers, Broxton gets all lefties and a handful of bad RHP.

[Kerb Hohl]

Trade for Gordon
Move Braun to 1st

Sabathia - 2/$25
Hunter - 2/$10
Swarzak - 2/$15

Gordon - 2b
Santana - RF
Shaw - 3B
Braun - 1B
Brinson - LF
Phillips- CF
Pina - C
Arcia - SS

Anderson
Davis
Sabathia
Hader
Woodruff
(Nelson)

Suter
Hughes
Barnes
Wang
Hunter
Swarzak
Knebel

I don't think CC comes that cheap anymore and I wouldn't target Gordon given that I don't want to give up prospects for someone we probably could get in free agency (shorter deal for Neil Walker or something to that tune). Otherwise I'm OK with this. I'm also assuming that Thames gets a lot of 1B play against RHP and Braun sees a few OF starts against RHP.

[wichmae]

Broxton would be a solid, cheap acquisition for SF.

His problem for the Brewers getting a haul is that he's on the wrong side of the platoon. I'm not sure if we'd be able to get a great relief prospect like Crick for him. Might be a bit cheaper of an asking price.

I'd imagine if they got Broxton he'd be in a 50/50 or 67/33 platoon with Span. Span gets the tough RH pitchers, Broxton gets all lefties and a handful of bad RHP.

Yeah maybe Crick is too high of an ask. Though I do think he would be my starting point.

[Gianstoppable]

Reed was always the prospect I never understood the hype for. No opinion on his release, because my opinion didn't mean he couldn't be a decent depth guy, but there always seemed to be some expectation that he may play into the future while he had subpar numbers all the way through the minors. I'm assuming there was some pedigree/tools that people liked.

He drew a bunch of walks...but also K'd a bunch. Guys who walk a bunch typically can translate that to the majors. Good defense and great arm but the rest blah

[Wisky4life]

Giants lookin for CF and 3rd Base. Sell high on Shaw and one of our CF players?

[trwi7]

The problem is the Giants farm system is complete ****.

[coolhandluke121]

Giants lookin for CF and 3rd Base. Sell high on Shaw and one of our CF players?

Broxton and Perez for good bullpen prospects. I'll take wichmae's word for it on Crick. Throw in Aguilar to get Suarez too. I think SF could use some rhb bench power.

[wichmae]

Giants lookin for CF and 3rd Base. Sell high on Shaw and one of our CF players?

Broxton and Perez for good bullpen prospects. I'll take wichmae's word for it on Crick. Throw in Aguilar to get Suarez too. I think SF could use some rhb bench power.

Crick is intriguing because they finally moved him to the pen full time and he got an uptick. Personally I dont think they could swing a deal for Shaw as well. The system is way too thin. I doubt they'd deal Ramos and we really dont need another toolsy OF for the system. It would take a ton from them to get that deal done. Broxton makes sense but not much more. Maybe Perez.