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Post#281 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:26 am

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This is why its an exaggeration. Your exaggerating how much we should factor size into the decision. Isaiah Thomas is 5'9 and was the best player on a 50 win team last year.

And "widely agreed" that Yogi was cut because he was small? Nobody here ever said it was height that led to Yogi being cut. Yogi got cut because he played like trash and Dinwiddie was better (not taller. Better)

And calling giving a second for Barea is a Billy King overpay? Honestly I think youre trolling now.


JJ Barea isnt Isaiah Thomas and has never come close to his production. Isaiah Thomas is an exception and its ridiculous to compare the two. You act like Boston didnt have to devise special defensive schemes to compensate for his height. Well imagine having to do the same except the guy is 33, less athletic, average offensively and isnt gonna be on the team next year. They would have to waste time in practice figuring out how to hide him for 4 months and then never run those schemes again.

Marks has talked about the benefits of size in the back court and the ability to switch on defense. Its not a coincidence that the guy he replaced Yogi with is 6'6. Also Dinwiddie wasnt better or more skilled, his previous stints on teams were pure garbage and he was terrible when he first got here.

Im not trolling trust me. Barea isnt worth a high-middle 2nd rounder like ours are going to be now that Orlando came back to earth. Maybe a pick in the 50s but not for a rebuilding team. Its an overpay and a shortsighted move since hes 33, declining and would leave to chase a ring in the off season. It would be extremely out of character for Marks to trade even a middling asset for a 4 month rental who is going to retire before D'angelo reaches his prime..


Never said Barea is IT, don't twist my words. I'm saying size doesn't matter as much as you're trying to make it.

You also dont seem to understand that

A- Barea isn't a rental. This is the third time I've told you hes not a rental and that hes signed through next year

B- This move is to address an immediate need. Not a move for our future. Who **** cares if Barea is going to be 33? Its not like we want him to do anything except play backup PG to dinwiddie.

C- The Mavs would need a reason to make the deal too. The deal has to work for both sides. You dont seem to understand that both sides have to say yes.

D- Barea is a good player. You seem to be really struggling to understand that concept.


my bad I thought you were planning on using the DPE on him. But honestly this makes the trade even worse since we would only have 11ish mill in cap space in the summer and 5 PGs.

we don’t need to trade a 2nd rounder for an immediate need. We’re not making the playoffs with or without Barea. It’s not like we’re addressing our Center position or something.

Height IS a huge deal. Isaiah was really really terrible on defense last year and it was all because of his size. He’s so short he couldn’t even guard opposing PGs, they had to hide him on the most incompetent offensive player and they still switched him off whenever that player would touch the ball. My point is that Barea brings all of the issues of Isaiah and almost none of his skills.

There’s plenty of back up PGs to be had and soon we’re gonna start seeing teams shuffling around their veteran backups as we get to the trade deadline. A back up PG is going to be available without giving up a pick.
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Post#282 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:35 am

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Ror1997 wrote:A second round pick(especially a pick that's yet to be determined, unlike draft day deals) holds very little value to a team thats

A- towards the end of a rebuild or

B- a contending team.

If you can use a 2nd to address a need on your team, you do it. Stock piling 2nd is something a rebuilding team does.


Are you implying that we're towards the end of our rebuild? Because I dont really know how to respond to that.


This is the third year of our rebuild and we have our core in place. We have cap space to sign a F/A next year. Our rebuild either ends this year or next. There's no reason to stock pile second rounders with the intention of developing them because we'll be busy trying to win games.

1 first, 1 second round pick is all you need. Any extra second rounders are expandable, unless you're rebuilding.


... Sean Marks had his 1st full season last year. He spent the second half of 15-16 cleaning up Kings mess. He’s said it himself that this is going to be a long rebuild. We’re currently the 6th worst team in the league and if we did your Barea trade we wouldn’t have the space to sign a truly impactful player. The year after that we'll be damn close to the cap with DLos, Dinwiddies and Rondaes extensions. 2020 is the summer when we will have a lot of cap space, but so will most other teams with regrettable 2016 contracts.

IMO the rebuild started when Marks traded Thad for LeVert and hired Atkinson because before that we didn’t even have anything to build with (minus RHJ). Which means its been 2 off seasons, 1 season and 16 games of rebuilding.

We don’t even have extra seconds. For the next 3 years we only have 2. That’s not stockpiling at all.

I hope you’re right and we win some games but I’d also be fine with being terrible next year and finally getting a high pick of our own.
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#283 » by Ror1997 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:48 am

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JJ Barea isnt Isaiah Thomas and has never come close to his production. Isaiah Thomas is an exception and its ridiculous to compare the two. You act like Boston didnt have to devise special defensive schemes to compensate for his height. Well imagine having to do the same except the guy is 33, less athletic, average offensively and isnt gonna be on the team next year. They would have to waste time in practice figuring out how to hide him for 4 months and then never run those schemes again.

Marks has talked about the benefits of size in the back court and the ability to switch on defense. Its not a coincidence that the guy he replaced Yogi with is 6'6. Also Dinwiddie wasnt better or more skilled, his previous stints on teams were pure garbage and he was terrible when he first got here.

Im not trolling trust me. Barea isnt worth a high-middle 2nd rounder like ours are going to be now that Orlando came back to earth. Maybe a pick in the 50s but not for a rebuilding team. Its an overpay and a shortsighted move since hes 33, declining and would leave to chase a ring in the off season. It would be extremely out of character for Marks to trade even a middling asset for a 4 month rental who is going to retire before D'angelo reaches his prime..


Never said Barea is IT, don't twist my words. I'm saying size doesn't matter as much as you're trying to make it.

You also dont seem to understand that

A- Barea isn't a rental. This is the third time I've told you hes not a rental and that hes signed through next year

B- This move is to address an immediate need. Not a move for our future. Who **** cares if Barea is going to be 33? Its not like we want him to do anything except play backup PG to dinwiddie.

C- The Mavs would need a reason to make the deal too. The deal has to work for both sides. You dont seem to understand that both sides have to say yes.

D- Barea is a good player. You seem to be really struggling to understand that concept.


my bad I thought you were planning on using the DPE on him. But honestly this makes the trade even worse since we would only have 11ish mill in cap space in the summer and 5 PGs.

we don’t need to trade a 2nd rounder for an immediate need. We’re not making the playoffs with or without Barea. It’s not like we’re addressing our Center position or something.

Height IS a huge deal. Isaiah was really really terrible on defense last year and it was all because of his size. He’s so short he couldn’t even guard opposing PGs, they had to hide him on the most incompetent offensive player and they still switched him off whenever that player would touch the ball. My point is that Barea brings all of the issues of Isaiah and almost none of his skills.

There’s plenty of back up PGs to be had and soon we’re gonna start seeing teams shuffling around their veteran backups as we get to the trade deadline. A back up PG is going to be available without giving up a pick.


Bro what Skills has IW shown this year except the ability to turn the ball over? If they're both negatives on defense then I would 100% take the guy who will put up 11/5 over the young player who needs GLeague seasoning. Barea is LEGIT. He's never going to be anything more than a backup PG, but hes one of the best back up PGs in the game. You can't take that away from him because he made a career and won a finals while being a backup PG. He brings ALOT more to the table then IW. No debate.

There's plenty of backup PGs. However, there's not alot of backup Vet PGs who have as much experience as Barea does, or his skills. If we want to just fill the backup PG position with a body, then F it get the cheapest option. If you want to address issues we lack at the PG position (Leadership and Playmaking) then I can't find a better option than Barea. I've been thinking of one since we couldn't sign Jameer Nelson. I just can't find one.
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Post#284 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:06 am

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Never said Barea is IT, don't twist my words. I'm saying size doesn't matter as much as you're trying to make it.

You also dont seem to understand that

A- Barea isn't a rental. This is the third time I've told you hes not a rental and that hes signed through next year

B- This move is to address an immediate need. Not a move for our future. Who **** cares if Barea is going to be 33? Its not like we want him to do anything except play backup PG to dinwiddie.

C- The Mavs would need a reason to make the deal too. The deal has to work for both sides. You dont seem to understand that both sides have to say yes.

D- Barea is a good player. You seem to be really struggling to understand that concept.


my bad I thought you were planning on using the DPE on him. But honestly this makes the trade even worse since we would only have 11ish mill in cap space in the summer and 5 PGs.

we don’t need to trade a 2nd rounder for an immediate need. We’re not making the playoffs with or without Barea. It’s not like we’re addressing our Center position or something.

Height IS a huge deal. Isaiah was really really terrible on defense last year and it was all because of his size. He’s so short he couldn’t even guard opposing PGs, they had to hide him on the most incompetent offensive player and they still switched him off whenever that player would touch the ball. My point is that Barea brings all of the issues of Isaiah and almost none of his skills.

There’s plenty of back up PGs to be had and soon we’re gonna start seeing teams shuffling around their veteran backups as we get to the trade deadline. A back up PG is going to be available without giving up a pick.


Bro what Skills has IW shown this year except the ability to turn the ball over? If they're both negatives on defense then I would 100% take the guy who will put up 11/5 over the young player who needs GLeague seasoning. Barea is LEGIT. He's never going to be anything more than a backup PG, but hes one of the best back up PGs in the game. You can't take that away from him because he made a career and won a finals while being a backup PG. He brings ALOT more to the table then IW. No debate.

There's plenty of backup PGs. However, there's not alot of backup Vet PGs who have as much experience as Barea does, or his skills. If we want to just fill the backup PG position with a body, then F it get the cheapest option. If you want to address issues we lack at the PG position (Leadership and Playmaking) then I can't find a better option than Barea. I've been thinking of one since we couldn't sign Jameer Nelson. I just can't find one.


Youre right Whitehead has been hot garbage this season. But I dont see us giving up on him anytime soon, the team has invested a lot in him and we're definitely picking up his team option next year unless he really proves that hes not an NBA player.

Theres not a lot of back up vets like him, youre right. But I just dont see a reason to give up assets for him when theres other back up PG options and we currently have 3 players capable of playing the position until D'Lo comes back (well maybe not whitehead). Especially since I think our biggest need is still at the 5. Thats the position that we should be trading assets to upgrade IMO. I dont think Barea adds any wins to this team but if we turned those 2 seconds into a half way decent big, we could ruin Clevelands season.
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Post#285 » by Ror1997 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:35 am

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my bad I thought you were planning on using the DPE on him. But honestly this makes the trade even worse since we would only have 11ish mill in cap space in the summer and 5 PGs.

we don’t need to trade a 2nd rounder for an immediate need. We’re not making the playoffs with or without Barea. It’s not like we’re addressing our Center position or something.

Height IS a huge deal. Isaiah was really really terrible on defense last year and it was all because of his size. He’s so short he couldn’t even guard opposing PGs, they had to hide him on the most incompetent offensive player and they still switched him off whenever that player would touch the ball. My point is that Barea brings all of the issues of Isaiah and almost none of his skills.

There’s plenty of back up PGs to be had and soon we’re gonna start seeing teams shuffling around their veteran backups as we get to the trade deadline. A back up PG is going to be available without giving up a pick.


Bro what Skills has IW shown this year except the ability to turn the ball over? If they're both negatives on defense then I would 100% take the guy who will put up 11/5 over the young player who needs GLeague seasoning. Barea is LEGIT. He's never going to be anything more than a backup PG, but hes one of the best back up PGs in the game. You can't take that away from him because he made a career and won a finals while being a backup PG. He brings ALOT more to the table then IW. No debate.

There's plenty of backup PGs. However, there's not alot of backup Vet PGs who have as much experience as Barea does, or his skills. If we want to just fill the backup PG position with a body, then F it get the cheapest option. If you want to address issues we lack at the PG position (Leadership and Playmaking) then I can't find a better option than Barea. I've been thinking of one since we couldn't sign Jameer Nelson. I just can't find one.


Youre right Whitehead has been hot garbage this season. But I dont see us giving up on him anytime soon, the team has invested a lot in him and we're definitely picking up his team option next year unless he really proves that hes not an NBA player.

Theres not a lot of back up vets like him, youre right. But I just dont see a reason to give up assets for him when theres other back up PG options and we currently have 3 players capable of playing the position until D'Lo comes back (well maybe not whitehead). Especially since I think our biggest need is still at the 5. Thats the position that we should be trading assets to upgrade IMO. I dont think Barea adds any wins to this team but if we turned those 2 seconds into a half way decent big, we could ruin Clevelands season.



I think getting a competent and proven backup point guard to run the offense in stretches where Dinwiddie (and DLo for that matter) can't would be a big help for this team. Ever since Lin went down, this teams PG rotation became one of the youngest and most inexperienced back courts in the league. I think its best for all parties if IW spent more time in LI then he did with the nba team. Itll be best for his future to get some GLeague reps in and build confidence along the way. We wouldn't be giving up on him. We would just be taking him out of a situation he wasnt supposed to be in (he was 4th string PG entering the year)

I think IW is still a project and I agree that he has a future here. But how many guys like that can you have on a team at once? Remember, IW is the type of player you could draft with that pick, And his development can go either way. If your roster is filled with 4-6 guys like Whitehead (raw with upside) then you're going nowhere fast. Unless you get really lucky lol.

We already have 2 euro talents we can bring over too. Giving up a second wouldnt be the worst thing ever.

We do need to do something about a C. You could expand the Barea deal to include Noel :lol: but yeah I definitely think we need a C. But getting a legit backup PG is something thats just as high on the to-do list now that DLo is down.
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Post#286 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:49 am

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Bro what Skills has IW shown this year except the ability to turn the ball over? If they're both negatives on defense then I would 100% take the guy who will put up 11/5 over the young player who needs GLeague seasoning. Barea is LEGIT. He's never going to be anything more than a backup PG, but hes one of the best back up PGs in the game. You can't take that away from him because he made a career and won a finals while being a backup PG. He brings ALOT more to the table then IW. No debate.

There's plenty of backup PGs. However, there's not alot of backup Vet PGs who have as much experience as Barea does, or his skills. If we want to just fill the backup PG position with a body, then F it get the cheapest option. If you want to address issues we lack at the PG position (Leadership and Playmaking) then I can't find a better option than Barea. I've been thinking of one since we couldn't sign Jameer Nelson. I just can't find one.


Youre right Whitehead has been hot garbage this season. But I dont see us giving up on him anytime soon, the team has invested a lot in him and we're definitely picking up his team option next year unless he really proves that hes not an NBA player.

Theres not a lot of back up vets like him, youre right. But I just dont see a reason to give up assets for him when theres other back up PG options and we currently have 3 players capable of playing the position until D'Lo comes back (well maybe not whitehead). Especially since I think our biggest need is still at the 5. Thats the position that we should be trading assets to upgrade IMO. I dont think Barea adds any wins to this team but if we turned those 2 seconds into a half way decent big, we could ruin Clevelands season.



I think getting a competent and proven backup point guard to run the offense in stretches where Dinwiddie (and DLo for that matter) can't would be a big help for this team. I think its best for all parties if IW spent more time in LI then he did with the nba team. I think its best for his future to work get some GLeague reps in and build confidence along the way. We wouldn't be giving up on him. We would just be taking him out of a situation he wasnt supposed to be in (he was 4th string PG entering the year)

I think IW is still a project and I agree that he has a future here. But how many guys like that can you have on a team at once? Remember, IW is the type of player you could draft with that pick, And his development can go either way. If your roster is filled with 4-6 guys like Whitehead then you're going nowhere fast.

We already have 2 euro talents we can bring over too. Giving up a second wouldnt be the worst thing ever.

We do need to do something about a C. You could expand the Barea deal to include Noel :lol: but yeah I definitely think we need a C. But getting a legit backup PG is something thats just as high on the to-do list now that DLo is down.


You’re right it would help a bit this season especially if Dinwiddie went down (god forbid) but for next season we already have that guy and that’s Lin. A 2nd isn’t the worst thing in the world but I’d want to really make sure we’re making the best deal possible and not just for an immediate but temporary need.

Trevor Booker and 2 2nds for Barea and Noel? Damn that’s a hard one cause we’d have do some maneuvering to re-sign him. Probably would have to waive and stretch Mozgov, maybe even convince Lin to opt out and sign a more team friendly deal.

Unfortunately I think we really only have 1 Euro. Juan Pablo Vaulet doesn’t seem like an NBA player. Just the last remnant of King’s series of **** ups (jk we’ll never be completely free).
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Post#287 » by DeRoma » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:39 am

What do you guys think of Gorgui Dieng? Friendly multi year contract and we can get him for cheap I think. He might be a descent when given volume. I haven't seen him play a lot I just know he can do a little bit of everything.
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Post#288 » by brook » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:31 am

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If a guy plays on the worst bench in the NBA, and is a good player, then dont you think he would play more mins? If hes playing limited mins on an already bad bench, that would indicate He's a bad player.

Your response was literally "Just because He's bad and put up bad stats doesnt mean hes bad"


Satoransky isn't a bad player, I watch him several times when he plays for Barcellona and Czech National team...

Dinwiddie was third playmaker for the Pistons and was cut by the Bulls. There are infinite examples of player who changes in a different context... also he plays often to SF like I said without reasons.

I like him and I think fits our sistem because he's tall for a playmaker and he's a smart player... and also we can get him for cheap!


We aren't looking for a developmental project. Were looking for a veteran player who can help the team right now.

Players can be good in the euro league and be bad in the NBA. Remember how were excited for Mosgov after his great summer playing fiba?

Also, saying Sat would be cheap is irrelevant because so would Barea. 75% of players taken in the second round are garbage. Yes of course you can find a diamond in the rough but in general, second round picks are highly expandable.


I just think we as fans have been in rebuilding mode for so long, and we've been so F'd by the mishandling of draft picks that we forget it actually is ok to trade draft picks. Not every second we trade will become Draymond Green.


Satoransky is 26 year old and have great experience outside the NBA, so he's between developmental project and veteran player.

I know there's a lot of players who played well into the FIBA area and then are inadequate in the NBA. But we need a playmaker, this is a fact. If you don't want to trade picks or young players for a legit playmakers, and you obviously don't want to trade young player or picks, you have to looking in the undergrowth.

Like other users says, Barea is 33 years old, he's short and he's a rental. Satoransky also is cheaper, fits well our system and have a ridicolous contract for next year, only 3 million. In exchange for Kilpatrick I'll take this bet, we have nothing to lose.
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Post#289 » by Ror1997 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:07 pm

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Satoransky isn't a bad player, I watch him several times when he plays for Barcellona and Czech National team...

Dinwiddie was third playmaker for the Pistons and was cut by the Bulls. There are infinite examples of player who changes in a different context... also he plays often to SF like I said without reasons.

I like him and I think fits our sistem because he's tall for a playmaker and he's a smart player... and also we can get him for cheap!


We aren't looking for a developmental project. Were looking for a veteran player who can help the team right now.

Players can be good in the euro league and be bad in the NBA. Remember how were excited for Mosgov after his great summer playing fiba?

Also, saying Sat would be cheap is irrelevant because so would Barea. 75% of players taken in the second round are garbage. Yes of course you can find a diamond in the rough but in general, second round picks are highly expandable.


I just think we as fans have been in rebuilding mode for so long, and we've been so F'd by the mishandling of draft picks that we forget it actually is ok to trade draft picks. Not every second we trade will become Draymond Green.


Satoransky is 26 year old and have great experience outside the NBA, so he's between developmental project and veteran player.

I know there's a lot of players who played well into the FIBA area and then are inadequate in the NBA. But we need a playmaker, this is a fact. If you don't want to trade picks or young players for a legit playmakers, and you obviously don't want to trade young player or picks, you have to looking in the undergrowth.

Like other users says, Barea is 33 years old, he's short and he's a rental. Satoransky also is cheaper, fits well our system and have a ridicolous contract for next year, only 3 million. In exchange for Kilpatrick I'll take this bet, we have nothing to lose.



Barea isn't a rental, and his contract is almost the same at Sat's. He's signed next year at 4m. Plus, unlike Sat, He's actually proven himself to be a good nba player. So actually, Barea is the better value.

You can't make up the argument as you go along. Sat isn't a good NBA player and there's a reason he gets limited minutes on a bad bench. His contract is the same as Barea's. There's nothing that actually makes Sat a better option than Barea. Nothing at all.


One is an absolute scrub, and the other is putting up better numbers at 33 than the scrub in his prime is.
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Post#290 » by brook » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:18 pm

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We aren't looking for a developmental project. Were looking for a veteran player who can help the team right now.

Players can be good in the euro league and be bad in the NBA. Remember how were excited for Mosgov after his great summer playing fiba?

Also, saying Sat would be cheap is irrelevant because so would Barea. 75% of players taken in the second round are garbage. Yes of course you can find a diamond in the rough but in general, second round picks are highly expandable.


I just think we as fans have been in rebuilding mode for so long, and we've been so F'd by the mishandling of draft picks that we forget it actually is ok to trade draft picks. Not every second we trade will become Draymond Green.


Satoransky is 26 year old and have great experience outside the NBA, so he's between developmental project and veteran player.

I know there's a lot of players who played well into the FIBA area and then are inadequate in the NBA. But we need a playmaker, this is a fact. If you don't want to trade picks or young players for a legit playmakers, and you obviously don't want to trade young player or picks, you have to looking in the undergrowth.

Like other users says, Barea is 33 years old, he's short and he's a rental. Satoransky also is cheaper, fits well our system and have a ridicolous contract for next year, only 3 million. In exchange for Kilpatrick I'll take this bet, we have nothing to lose.



Barea isn't a rental, and his contract is almost the same at Sat's. He's signed next year at 4m. Plus, unlike Sat, He's actually proven himself to be a good nba player. So actually, Barea is the better value.

You can't make up the argument as you go along. Sat isn't a good NBA player and there's a reason he gets limited minutes on a bad bench. His contract is the same as Barea's. There's nothing that actually makes Sat a better option than Barea. Nothing at all.


One is an absolute scrub, and the other is putting up better numbers at 33 than the scrub in his prime is.


Barea is a rental because is old. He don't fits our timeline and mostly don't fits our system. You want him because some injuries hits our playmakers depth and I understand this, but I don't see the reason to give away good secound round like Orlando's or Indiana's.

We don't know if Satoransky is a scrub, because like I said, he plays very limited minutes (often DNP) and often plays outside his natural role.

You can take this guy for free! He is a bet. And like I said, we must know better than others fans what means play in a different context, system and under a coach like Kenny. Dinwiddie is the best example.
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Post#291 » by Ror1997 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:44 pm

He doesn't play because he isn't good. It isn't rocket science.
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Post#292 » by shakendfries » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:16 pm

I'm convinced that Sean Marks will find a way to land Nerleans Noel
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Post#293 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:23 pm

shakendfries wrote:I'm convinced that Sean Marks will find a way to land Nerleans Noel


I think Dallas is defly trading Noel..the question is to which team. They're doing everything to keep Noel healthy, giving him limited mins and DNPs. I just hope that we're the team to land Noel. Noel would be in the perfect spot here. He'll get to start and he'll have a role. He'll be playing in a bigger market. Hope guys like Sean Kilpatrick gets to showcase their skills more to the Mavs FO.
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Post#294 » by LKIRNets » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:15 pm

Not having a scoring big is killing us. I'd call Philly on Okafor to be honest. Won't have to pay much and less negatives.

We also have to upgrade the SF off the bench.
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Post#295 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:15 am

LKIRNets wrote:Not having a scoring big is killing us. I'd call Philly on Okafor to be honest. Won't have to pay much and less negatives.

We also have to upgrade the SF off the bench.


I wouldn’t at this point unless they’re willing to give him up for nothing. No point in trading for him when teams don’t seem to be willing to even give a 2nd rounder and we’re 1st on the waiver order.
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Post#296 » by LKIRNets » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:32 am

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LKIRNets wrote:Not having a scoring big is killing us. I'd call Philly on Okafor to be honest. Won't have to pay much and less negatives.

We also have to upgrade the SF off the bench.


I wouldn’t at this point unless they’re willing to give him up for nothing. No point in trading for him when teams don’t seem to be willing to even give a 2nd rounder and we’re 1st on the waiver order.

bruh who do we have to trade that's going to kill us? Kilpatrick? Acy? Booker? Whitehead? I'd even trade Doyle. These are 24 yr. olds that Sean Marks can find next year. Find me a big that scores like Jahlil do?
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Post#297 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:10 am

LKIRNets wrote:
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LKIRNets wrote:Not having a scoring big is killing us. I'd call Philly on Okafor to be honest. Won't have to pay much and less negatives.

We also have to upgrade the SF off the bench.


I wouldn’t at this point unless they’re willing to give him up for nothing. No point in trading for him when teams don’t seem to be willing to even give a 2nd rounder and we’re 1st on the waiver order.

bruh who do we have to trade that's going to kill us? Kilpatrick? Acy? Booker? Whitehead? I'd even trade Doyle. These are 24 yr. olds that Sean Marks can find next year. Find me a big that scores like Jahlil do?


Doyle doesnt play for the Brooklyn Nets and we're not trading Whitehead for a guy on a one year deal with no trade interest around the league. Trading Booker for him would be pointless and I doubt Philly would want him or Kilpatrick/Acy who have no trade value. Kilpatrick/Acy is actually what I meant when I said "give him up for nothing" :lol:

Its not that I dont want him on the team, I'd be ecstatic, its that I'm not willing to give up any value for him that Philly would actually want (Harris/2nd Rounders). He's gonna be a FA in the summer and probably before then honestly. When Philly cuts him, we can get him off waivers for free or if Philly doesnt cut him we can just sign him in the off season. He's 21 theres no rush.

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Post#298 » by LKIRNets » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:14 am

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Its not that I dont want him on the team, I'd be ecstatic, its that I'm not willing to give up any value for him that Philly would actually want (Harris/2nd Rounders). He's gonna be a FA in the summer and probably before then honestly. When Philly cuts him, we can get him off waivers for free or if Philly doesnt cut him we can just sign him in the off season. He's 21 theres no rush.

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Bruh I don't want to trade Harris. I mean I'd think about it but I want to keep him. He's Kyle Korver, footwork is unbelievable. We got him from the D LEAGUE. I'd extend him.

Philly wants to make Okafor suffer. It's personal wit them. While I get how we can get him off waivers. I'm assuming they won't put him on waivers. But that's who we need. Not to mention it'd draw more fans since Duke fans travel. But that's a whole other discussion.

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Post#299 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:55 am

LKIRNets wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Its not that I dont want him on the team, I'd be ecstatic, its that I'm not willing to give up any value for him that Philly would actually want (Harris/2nd Rounders). He's gonna be a FA in the summer and probably before then honestly. When Philly cuts him, we can get him off waivers for free or if Philly doesnt cut him we can just sign him in the off season. He's 21 theres no rush.

Also welcome to the board. The more Nets fans the merrier.


Bruh I don't want to trade Harris. I mean I'd think about it but I want to keep him. He's Kyle Korver, footwork is unbelievable. We got him from the D LEAGUE. I'd extend him.

Philly wants to make Okafor suffer. It's personal wit them. While I get how we can get him off waivers. I'm assuming they won't put him on waivers. But that's who we need. Not to mention it'd draw more fans since Duke fans travel. But that's a whole other discussion.

Thanks bruh. I'm the first of many. The Nets are on the right track. :D


Agreed I dont want to trade Harris unless its really worth it, I doubt we'd get fair value.

The one trade I thought of for Okafor that I would do is something like:
Acy, 2021 2nd Rounder for Okafor and Houstons 2018 2nd Rounder

Houstons 2nd will most likely be in the late 50s and you could almost guarantee that our 2nd in 2021 wont be that low so they hypothetically get some value here. I wouldnt give a 2nd rounder straight up for him in our position.
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Post#300 » by LKIRNets » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:17 am

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
LKIRNets wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Its not that I dont want him on the team, I'd be ecstatic, its that I'm not willing to give up any value for him that Philly would actually want (Harris/2nd Rounders). He's gonna be a FA in the summer and probably before then honestly. When Philly cuts him, we can get him off waivers for free or if Philly doesnt cut him we can just sign him in the off season. He's 21 theres no rush.

Also welcome to the board. The more Nets fans the merrier.


Bruh I don't want to trade Harris. I mean I'd think about it but I want to keep him. He's Kyle Korver, footwork is unbelievable. We got him from the D LEAGUE. I'd extend him.

Philly wants to make Okafor suffer. It's personal wit them. While I get how we can get him off waivers. I'm assuming they won't put him on waivers. But that's who we need. Not to mention it'd draw more fans since Duke fans travel. But that's a whole other discussion.

Thanks bruh. I'm the first of many. The Nets are on the right track. :D


Agreed I dont want to trade Harris unless its really worth it, I doubt we'd get fair value.

The one trade I thought of for Okafor that I would do is something like:
Acy, 2021 2nd Rounder for Okafor and Houstons 2018 2nd Rounder

Houstons 2nd will most likely be in the late 50s and you could almost guarantee that our 2nd in 2021 wont be that low so they hypothetically get some value here. I wouldnt give a 2nd rounder straight up for him in our position.

I think we would get fair value. But it's just hard to find those type of guys.

I would too. I don't think they want to.

Let me ask you a question. I've been watching a lot of G Leaguers. What do you think about James Young? would he make it ok to trade a Joe Harris?





Keep in mind, this is how we got DinWiddie and Harris. By scouting that developmental league. Ideally I'd want to trade Skillz.

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