Ror1997 wrote:TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Ror1997 wrote:
This is why its an exaggeration. Your exaggerating how much we should factor size into the decision. Isaiah Thomas is 5'9 and was the best player on a 50 win team last year.
And "widely agreed" that Yogi was cut because he was small? Nobody here ever said it was height that led to Yogi being cut. Yogi got cut because he played like trash and Dinwiddie was better (not taller. Better)
And calling giving a second for Barea is a Billy King overpay? Honestly I think youre trolling now.
JJ Barea isnt Isaiah Thomas and has never come close to his production. Isaiah Thomas is an exception and its ridiculous to compare the two. You act like Boston didnt have to devise special defensive schemes to compensate for his height. Well imagine having to do the same except the guy is 33, less athletic, average offensively and isnt gonna be on the team next year. They would have to waste time in practice figuring out how to hide him for 4 months and then never run those schemes again.
Marks has talked about the benefits of size in the back court and the ability to switch on defense. Its not a coincidence that the guy he replaced Yogi with is 6'6. Also Dinwiddie wasnt better or more skilled, his previous stints on teams were pure garbage and he was terrible when he first got here.
Im not trolling trust me. Barea isnt worth a high-middle 2nd rounder like ours are going to be now that Orlando came back to earth. Maybe a pick in the 50s but not for a rebuilding team. Its an overpay and a shortsighted move since hes 33, declining and would leave to chase a ring in the off season. It would be extremely out of character for Marks to trade even a middling asset for a 4 month rental who is going to retire before D'angelo reaches his prime..
Never said Barea is IT, don't twist my words. I'm saying size doesn't matter as much as you're trying to make it.
You also dont seem to understand that
A- Barea isn't a rental. This is the third time I've told you hes not a rental and that hes signed through next year
B- This move is to address an immediate need. Not a move for our future. Who **** cares if Barea is going to be 33? Its not like we want him to do anything except play backup PG to dinwiddie.
C- The Mavs would need a reason to make the deal too. The deal has to work for both sides. You dont seem to understand that both sides have to say yes.
D- Barea is a good player. You seem to be really struggling to understand that concept.
my bad I thought you were planning on using the DPE on him. But honestly this makes the trade even worse since we would only have 11ish mill in cap space in the summer and 5 PGs.
we don’t need to trade a 2nd rounder for an immediate need. We’re not making the playoffs with or without Barea. It’s not like we’re addressing our Center position or something.
Height IS a huge deal. Isaiah was really really terrible on defense last year and it was all because of his size. He’s so short he couldn’t even guard opposing PGs, they had to hide him on the most incompetent offensive player and they still switched him off whenever that player would touch the ball. My point is that Barea brings all of the issues of Isaiah and almost none of his skills.
There’s plenty of back up PGs to be had and soon we’re gonna start seeing teams shuffling around their veteran backups as we get to the trade deadline. A back up PG is going to be available without giving up a pick.













