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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#221 » by long range bomber » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:31 pm

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Again, not if it is done in conjunction with signing a legit third star with the space.


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Yeah I won't complain under that scenario. More just mentally preparing myself for it to happen.


All things considered, I think that Bayless was a good signing. It would be better if it was only a two year deal, but it is what it is.

If we need to bribe someone to take him off our hands then we could do it. Hinkie would have taken 2 second rounders for him most likely in his last year. Some other GM probably will too.

If it has to be a lottery protected first though then so be it, if getting rid of him enables us to sign a third star. I’m not saying that we should pull a Vlade and trade picks for space without using the space on a good player. If we can’t get someone worthy then we should just keep our powered dry until the following summer.


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All things considered, Bayless signing was a failure so far and if he is moved along with picks, it is definitely a failure.

To be considered a good signing for a combo guard, he would need to provide Seth Curry level which is above average production. Jeremy Lin is average value, Bayless is below value production. level production last year but he did not play. This year he would need to sustain his production of 40 % from 3 on atleast 5-6 attempts.
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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#222 » by Ericb5 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:32 pm

long range bomber wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Yeah I won't complain under that scenario. More just mentally preparing myself for it to happen.


All things considered, I think that Bayless was a good signing. It would be better if it was only a two year deal, but it is what it is.

If we need to bribe someone to take him off our hands then we could do it. Hinkie would have taken 2 second rounders for him most likely in his last year. Some other GM probably will too.

If it has to be a lottery protected first though then so be it, if getting rid of him enables us to sign a third star. I’m not saying that we should pull a Vlade and trade picks for space without using the space on a good player. If we can’t get someone worthy then we should just keep our powered dry until the following summer.


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All things considered, Bayless signing was a failure so far and if he is moved along with picks, it is definitely a failure.

To be considered a good signing for a combo guard, he would need to provide Seth Curry level which is above average production. Jeremy Lin is average value, Bayless is below value production. level production last year but he did not play. This year he would need to sustain his production of 40 % from 3 on atleast 5-6 attempts.


You could say that he was a failure so far based on the fact that he missed pretty much the entire year last year due to injuries, but given what the state of our team was when we made the signing, and the level of his play this year I think that he was a good signing. He would have provided stability last year had he been healthy, and this year he hasn't been that bad, even though he is playing too many minutes.

Lin is a better player, but he costs more money.
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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#223 » by long range bomber » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:37 pm

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long range bomber wrote:
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All things considered, I think that Bayless was a good signing. It would be better if it was only a two year deal, but it is what it is.

If we need to bribe someone to take him off our hands then we could do it. Hinkie would have taken 2 second rounders for him most likely in his last year. Some other GM probably will too.

If it has to be a lottery protected first though then so be it, if getting rid of him enables us to sign a third star. I’m not saying that we should pull a Vlade and trade picks for space without using the space on a good player. If we can’t get someone worthy then we should just keep our powered dry until the following summer.


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All things considered, Bayless signing was a failure so far and if he is moved along with picks, it is definitely a failure.

To be considered a good signing for a combo guard, he would need to provide Seth Curry level which is above average production. Jeremy Lin is average value, Bayless is below value production. level production last year but he did not play. This year he would need to sustain his production of 40 % from 3 on atleast 5-6 attempts.


You could say that he was a failure so far based on the fact that he missed pretty much the entire year last year due to injuries, but given what the state of our team was when we made the signing, and the level of his play this year I think that he was a good signing. He would have provided stability last year had he been healthy, and this year he hasn't been that bad, even though he is playing too many minutes.

Lin is a better player, but he costs more money.

The Bayless signing will look even worse if his contract stops PHI from signing a max FA or if he costs PHI a 1st rounder to get rid of his 2019 salary.
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Post#224 » by Unbreakable99 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:07 pm

JJ is going to have Embiid as his guest on Wednesday.

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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#225 » by XDevilBoiX » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:40 pm

long range bomber wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
long range bomber wrote:All things considered, Bayless signing was a failure so far and if he is moved along with picks, it is definitely a failure.

To be considered a good signing for a combo guard, he would need to provide Seth Curry level which is above average production. Jeremy Lin is average value, Bayless is below value production. level production last year but he did not play. This year he would need to sustain his production of 40 % from 3 on atleast 5-6 attempts.


You could say that he was a failure so far based on the fact that he missed pretty much the entire year last year due to injuries, but given what the state of our team was when we made the signing, and the level of his play this year I think that he was a good signing. He would have provided stability last year had he been healthy, and this year he hasn't been that bad, even though he is playing too many minutes.

Lin is a better player, but he costs more money.

The Bayless signing will look even worse if his contract stops PHI from signing a max FA or if he costs PHI a 1st rounder to get rid of his 2019 salary.

It is a failure to me already, probably the first dumb move of BC as a GM. We stunk then and shouldn’t have sign anyone to a long term contract then. I did not like it at all.
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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#226 » by long range bomber » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:43 pm

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long range bomber wrote:
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You could say that he was a failure so far based on the fact that he missed pretty much the entire year last year due to injuries, but given what the state of our team was when we made the signing, and the level of his play this year I think that he was a good signing. He would have provided stability last year had he been healthy, and this year he hasn't been that bad, even though he is playing too many minutes.

Lin is a better player, but he costs more money.

The Bayless signing will look even worse if his contract stops PHI from signing a max FA or if he costs PHI a 1st rounder to get rid of his 2019 salary.

It is a failure to me already, probably the first dumb move of BC as a GM. We stunk then and shouldn’t have sign anyone to a long term contract then. I did not like it at all.

best we can hope now is that the cost of dumping his salary will only be a 2018 2nd rounder, as we have 4 2nds (BKN/CLE, NY/LAC, HOU, our own).
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Post#227 » by XDevilBoiX » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:41 pm

Does he remind you of Hollis?? One great shooting game every 4-6 games lol. Is the minutes wearing him out? Sucks to see one of our best shooter only show up once in a while.
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Post#228 » by agiaco » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:50 pm

XDevilBoiX wrote:Does he remind you of Hollis?? One great shooting game every 4-6 games lol. Is the minutes wearing him out? Sucks to see one of our best shooter only show up once in a while.


He's definitely had some bad stretches shooting, particularly from three, but offers a lot more than Hollis lol. Also a few of his bad shooting games still came with a few clutch shots in crunch time. I like what we have in JJ and confident his shooting percentage will increase. Once Fultz comes back it should help too.
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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#229 » by MNSixerFan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:48 am

Overall a slight disappointment this year. If he can help us win a first round playoff match up it's all good.
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Post#231 » by gdog2004 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:10 am

JJ has stretches of greatness but I think he's really only god for 25 minutes a game tops. Really need Markelle back and in his college form asap.
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Post#232 » by Ericb5 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:24 pm

gdog2004 wrote:JJ has stretches of greatness but I think he's really only god for 25 minutes a game tops. Really need Markelle back and in his college form asap.


Agreed.

25 tight minutes from JJ is ideal.

We need Fultz to get healthy, and then get some experience.


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Post#233 » by Unbreakable99 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:37 pm

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Post#234 » by mithrandir17 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:39 pm

Does anyone have news on JJ's injury?
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Re: Welcome JJ Redick. One year 23 million 

Post#235 » by sixers hoops » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:17 pm

long range bomber wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:
long range bomber wrote:The Bayless signing will look even worse if his contract stops PHI from signing a max FA or if he costs PHI a 1st rounder to get rid of his 2019 salary.

It is a failure to me already, probably the first dumb move of BC as a GM. We stunk then and shouldn’t have sign anyone to a long term contract then. I did not like it at all.

best we can hope now is that the cost of dumping his salary will only be a 2018 2nd rounder, as we have 4 2nds (BKN/CLE, NY/LAC, HOU, our own).


If Bayless has one year at 9 million remaining, I believe the stretch would convert it to three years at 3 million for cap purposes. Reducing his cap hit by six million, therefore, trading him only clears an extra three million toward cap space. Not worth giving a first at all. Maybe a high second, but even that is debatable.

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