11/29 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (108) - (121) Orlando Magic

[Andre Roberstan]

I'm wondering if and when any changes are made. Weird thing is I don't see it happening. Just ride it out.

I got you

You really don't want this.

[Pillendreher]

To understand Billy Donovan's coaching we can look at the players.

Is there a single player performs better than how he would play for another team?
PG-WB can play better with other coaches. Melo is coming from another dysfunctioning team(triangle).
Even Adams plays bad. Almost every player performs lower than how they would play under other coaches.

Its a good metric to see coachs contribution.
He makes every player worse.

I'm just so sick and tired of everybody turning to crap once they come here. We could have MJ at his peak and he would play like Wilson Chandler.

These things didn't happen under Brooks. They only started under Donovan.

[Pillendreher]

I'm wondering if and when any changes are made. Weird thing is I don't see it happening. Just ride it out.

I got you

You really don't want this.

I'm ready for anything.

[Andre Roberstan]

I got you

You really don't want this.

I'm ready for anything.

Hey FNQ, how does Mark Jackson as Thunder coach sound?

[spearsy23]

I'm wondering if and when any changes are made. Weird thing is I don't see it happening. Just ride it out.

I got you

You really don't want this.

I hate mark Jackson. But he isn't going to play terrance Ferguson 20 minutes and Patrick Patterson 7. However much you despise Jackson's coaching and off court bullcrap he's still better than Donovan. Not that I'd want him as a coach.

[bondom34]

Honestly, I think guys quit on him. I think they checked out.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I hate mark Jackson. But he isn't going to play terrance Ferguson 20 minutes and Patrick Patterson 7. However much you despise Jackson's coaching and off court bullcrap he's still better than Donovan. Not that I'd want him as a coach.

You could probably grab a random AAU coach and they would be better then Donovan. Send Billy back to college where he can make a final 4 every few years when he lands superior talent. Florida doesn't miss him. They are 5-1 and ranked in the top 10 with their 1 loss being by 3 points to Duke.

[FNQ]

You really don't want this.

I'm ready for anything.

Hey FNQ, how does Mark Jackson as Thunder coach sound?

As a Warrior fan, it sounds fantastic!

Here's a reference point for you guys though. I had the extreme displeasure of meeting Mr. Jackson and having to deal with some of his acolytes personally, and I think no one hit it on the head better than Andrew Bogut.

https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/will-mark-jackson-be-coaching-next-year-adrian-wojnarowski-says-not-if-people-make-calls-on-him
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1376995#start_here

Some of Jackson's best quotes were in there, like how the Warriors were a butterfly but he was the caterpillar, how playoff prepartion is overrated, how rim protection is overrated (was a thinly veiled shot at Andrew Bogut, as 5 minutes later he said DeAndre Jordan was an impact player)... just as petty and terrible as can be. There's a reason he hasn't been a serious candidate for anyone since the Warriors

My thoughts then, and to this day:

Jackson was a good coach for the team we had... he instilled confidence in players. That's important. But it's really all he did. If he were a player, he's the equivalent of a one-note specialist. Like the Reggie Evans of coaching.

That said, he sucks as a strategic coach, sucks as an employee, and sucks as an overall human being.

#teamBogut

[spearsy23]

I'm ready for anything.

Hey FNQ, how does Mark Jackson as Thunder coach sound?

As a Warrior fan, it sounds fantastic!

Here's a reference point for you guys though. I had the extreme displeasure of meeting Mr. Jackson and having to deal with some of his acolytes personally, and I think no one hit it on the head better than Andrew Bogut.

https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/will-mark-jackson-be-coaching-next-year-adrian-wojnarowski-says-not-if-people-make-calls-on-him
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1376995&start=140#start_here

Some of Jackson's best quotes were in there, like how the Warriors were a butterfly but he was the caterpillar, how playoff prepartion is overrated, how rim protection is overrated (was a thinly veiled shot at Andrew Bogut, as 5 minutes later he said DeAndre Jordan was an impact player)... just as petty and terrible as can be. There's a reason he hasn't been a serious candidate for anyone since the Warriors

My thoughts then, and to this day:

Jackson was a good coach for the team we had... he instilled confidence in players. That's important. But it's really all he did. If he were a player, he's the equivalent of a one-note specialist. Like the Reggie Evans of coaching.

That said, he sucks as a strategic coach, sucks as an employee, and sucks as an overall human being.

#teamBogut

All I'm hearing is "he's not Billy Donovan."

[FNQ]

All I'm hearing is "he's not Billy Donovan."

Understand the frustration of a bad coach, but this guy alienated one of our better players (Bogut), refused to prepare for playoff games, told the team that an injured player (Ezeli) was rooting against them - falsely, of course, banned one of the nicest guys - a face for the Warriors for many years - in Jim Barnett from having contact with the team..

He's someone that could really, really destroy team chemistry, and not just on court.

In terms of how he coaches on-court, he ran out hockey-style lineups. There was a 1st unit, there was a 2nd unit, and the two rarely mixed unless there was foul trouble. Kept Draymond on the bench in favor of David Lee. Sat Bogut for inexplicably long stretches to play Jermaine O'Neal, someone who was as vocal about religion as he was.. Donovan hasn't been great, but you guys can do so much better.

IMO - Jerry Stackhouse. Former player, still coaching in the D-league, someone who would be able to garner respect immediately.

[bondom34]

Yeah Jackson is a no. That said Bildo isn't going anywhere. This team is gonna be around .500 most likely the whole season at best and he's around through his contract unless Russ or PG say something big.

[Andre Roberstan]

IMO - Jerry Stackhouse. Former player, still coaching in the D-league, someone who would be able to garner respect immediately.

We are on a wavelength, man. Exact same guy I suggested if they were to move on.

[Dadouv47]

Mark Jackson is the last guy I would want to coach my team. The only fun part would be him wanting to get a revenge against GSW too.

But hell no. Still prefer to keep our freaky college coach.

[bondom34]

Stack would be solid. Someone mentioned Jon Barry too and liked that thought.

[spearsy23]

Stack would be solid. Someone mentioned Jon Barry too and liked that thought.

I'd be cool with stack, but that's the wrong Barry. And I definitely wouldn't hire someone with no coaching experience for this team, that's a rebuilding gamble. Realistically I'd be happy with any interim that sets a rotation and just avoids things altogether brain dead decisions.

[ThunderBolt]

IMO - Jerry Stackhouse. Former player, still coaching in the D-league, someone who would be able to garner respect immediately.

We are on a wavelength, man. Exact same guy I suggested if they were to move on.

As someone who doesn’t follow the d-league, what makes stackhouse a good candidate?

[spearsy23]

IMO - Jerry Stackhouse. Former player, still coaching in the D-league, someone who would be able to garner respect immediately.

We are on a wavelength, man. Exact same guy I suggested if they were to move on.

As someone who doesn’t follow the d-league, what makes stackhouse a good candidate?

He was d league coty last year, and I remember NBA people really singing his praises over the summer

[Andy123]

All I'm hearing is "he's not Billy Donovan."

Understand the frustration of a bad coach, but this guy alienated one of our better players (Bogut), refused to prepare for playoff games, told the team that an injured player (Ezeli) was rooting against them - falsely, of course, banned one of the nicest guys - a face for the Warriors for many years - in Jim Barnett from having contact with the team..

He's someone that could really, really destroy team chemistry, and not just on court.

In terms of how he coaches on-court, he ran out hockey-style lineups. There was a 1st unit, there was a 2nd unit, and the two rarely mixed unless there was foul trouble. Kept Draymond on the bench in favor of David Lee. Sat Bogut for inexplicably long stretches to play Jermaine O'Neal, someone who was as vocal about religion as he was.. Donovan hasn't been great, but you guys can do so much better.

IMO - Jerry Stackhouse. Former player, still coaching in the D-league, someone who would be able to garner respect immediately.

Agree with u on all points except David Lee was really good, and draymond was not quite the current draymond not yet anyway.
You bring in mark you might as well keep Billy .
At least Billy did run sets in college , when has mark run a good system ?

[Pillendreher]

Just to clear things up - in no way do I want Mark Jackson