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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#101 » by MGrand15 » Mon Dec 4, 2017 1:17 pm

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Or you could just focus on what the guards and bigs try to do on PNRs next game. I don't need videos or quotes for that.


That's not what we're doing.

Let me explain to you what you're watching.



#1
Schroder|Russell. Dennis is a terrible 3 pt. shooter. This is the start of the game. DLo pressuring Schro, the screen comes in, he feels for it, thought he could get over, didn't and Dennis took a high % shot for him. One that in his career he's made .575% this season. This is actually one of DLo's I'm trying to be a great defender but didn't scout my opponent defensive efforts.

#2
Shelvin Mack|Joey Buckets. This was was just terrible. Mack is a 30% 3pt shooter, so Joey running him off that line into a 40% was just ridiculous. But again that takes knowing Mack was going to have PT and I doubt we scouted to defend him, so that was the motions.

#3
Shabazz Napier|Levert. This was actually good defense. Nappier is a 47-50% 3 pt shooter, Levert runs him off the line into a shot he makes 40%, there's the trade off.

#4
Levert|Kyrie. Kyrie is too quick for Mozgov to hedge on he drops back and gives up the 3, Levert goes under the screen to make sure Kyrie doesn't have an easy assist to Horford. No chance to get Kyrie. That's just Kyrie.



Now video #2.

#1
Lin|Dragic, after stepping over the screen, Lin runs Dragic a 40% 3pt. shooter off the line, Mozgov stayed playing the passing lane and slept on a potential block.

#2
DLo vs Tyler Johnson, Russell and this is preseason, is overmatched by Tyler Johnson. Acy does a show and recover, Booker sleeps and doesn't defend the lay up. There's really nothing here. Booker didn't help at all.

#3
Lin|Jack, this is one that showcases how GOOD Lin got on his defense over the years. Lin ices Willy Hernangomez on the screen, but one problem. The slow footed Mozgov is there as the help, Lin actually did great here.

So no, it's not designed to allow the 16 foot jumper. No screen defense is allowed to do that, unless it's a poor shooting big.


Please don't insult my intelligence by pretending to know what you're talking about when it's clear you don't. Just watch the PNR defense the next couple games.

Your whole idea is based off Shroder shooting 57% from mid-range. When he's actually a career 39% shooter from that range. Your overreacting to a small, unsustainable sample size. And of course your ignoring that he's 36% from 16 to 23, which is the ideal range we'd keep him at.
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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#102 » by bws94 » Mon Dec 4, 2017 3:39 pm

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GTFO of here you POS baiting troll.... how manytimes do you need to be banned before you keep coming back?

observations? all you have done is praise russell for being an elite defeder and kill dinwiddie for not being able to defender vs screens

great observation? you said dinwiddie was much better vs. the grizz on screens we we went under every screen

you get your panties in a bunch for us having dinwiddie go over screens on shroeder yet schroeder was horrible as a result

Who do you think I am. What is wrong wit you?

Russell defended screen n' rolls better. It's statistically proven.

Dinwiddie was great that game. You ever saw Thib's strategy or Popovich when it comes to defending the screen w/ non shooters?


Again dude. Youre blaming Dinwiddie for the game plan... And you keep harping on a flawed stat without context.

We go over most screens and try to chase guards into contested pullups or floaters.

Dennis did not have a good game. He only hit 1 point per shot because he hit a few rough ones after the game was already out of hand.


I find a lot of coming down hard on Dinwiddie's defense from this poster. Too much of it. Seems like an agenda.
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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#103 » by LKIRNets » Mon Dec 4, 2017 5:27 pm

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LKIRNets wrote:Who do you think I am. What is wrong wit you?

Russell defended screen n' rolls better. It's statistically proven.

Dinwiddie was great that game. You ever saw Thib's strategy or Popovich when it comes to defending the screen w/ non shooters?


Again dude. Youre blaming Dinwiddie for the game plan... And you keep harping on a flawed stat without context.

We go over most screens and try to chase guards into contested pullups or floaters.

Dennis did not have a good game. He only hit 1 point per shot because he hit a few rough ones after the game was already out of hand.


I find a lot of coming down hard on Dinwiddie's defense from this poster. Too much of it. Seems like an agenda.

No agenda, just the truth. You don't like it b/c it's honest. I even criticized Russell's defense in that post. So what's the agenda?
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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#104 » by LKIRNets » Mon Dec 4, 2017 5:58 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Please don't insult my intelligence by pretending to know what you're talking about when it's clear you don't. Just watch the PNR defense the next couple games.

Your whole idea is based off Shroder shooting 57% from mid-range. When he's actually a career 39% shooter from that range. Your overreacting to a small, unsustainable sample size. And of course your ignoring that he's 36% from 16 to 23, which is the ideal range we'd keep him at.


I gave you a breakdown. You don't understand screen and roll defense. Not me.

Shro being 36% from 3 and 58% from else where tells you how bad it was defended. Shro finished w/ 24 pts. on 45% shooting. The majority of his good shots were 16 feet in. His strength. Going over a screen to defend a weaker shot is lunacy.

And no, the whole ideal is based on NBA defense as a whole and knowing that Kenny Atkinson runs the same defense he did in Atlanta. He runs the same shell drills for 1/2 court defense wit his players and SnR defense is based on his player's judgement.

Also there are 6-7 ways to play SnR defense. It is wide known w/ fast guards who have no jump shot, you go under the screen, that way you don't get exposed in the paint, shooters you get over. The Bulls and Hawks hedge or Ice on the SnR defense. The Hawks in 2014-15 had the habit of icing the screen and roll, you'd see Bazemore or Teague ice the screen and Horford would contest, especially w/ non shooters who's main strength was scoring near the paint area.

My thoughts on Dinwiddie he is a very good point guard. I have no issue wit him, but being honest his SnR defense is not good. And it needs to improve.
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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#105 » by bws94 » Mon Dec 4, 2017 9:54 pm

LKIRNets wrote:
bws94 wrote:
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Again dude. Youre blaming Dinwiddie for the game plan... And you keep harping on a flawed stat without context.

We go over most screens and try to chase guards into contested pullups or floaters.

Dennis did not have a good game. He only hit 1 point per shot because he hit a few rough ones after the game was already out of hand.


I find a lot of coming down hard on Dinwiddie's defense from this poster. Too much of it. Seems like an agenda.

No agenda, just the truth. You don't like it b/c it's honest. I even criticized Russell's defense in that post. So what's the agenda?



Meh, I don't like it because 4 out of 5 of your posts target Dinwiddie. It's obvious to most people reading posts here. You underplay the great things he does offensively and harp on PnR defense. Dinwiddie's overall defense is better than Russell's.
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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#106 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 4, 2017 10:54 pm

LKIRNets wrote:
bws94 wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:
Again dude. Youre blaming Dinwiddie for the game plan... And you keep harping on a flawed stat without context.

We go over most screens and try to chase guards into contested pullups or floaters.

Dennis did not have a good game. He only hit 1 point per shot because he hit a few rough ones after the game was already out of hand.


I find a lot of coming down hard on Dinwiddie's defense from this poster. Too much of it. Seems like an agenda.

No agenda, just the truth. You don't like it b/c it's honest. I even criticized Russell's defense in that post. So what's the agenda?


your agenda is the same as it was before you got banned the last 3 times. to troll this board
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Re: 12/2/17 Nets vs ATL protect home court 

Post#107 » by LKIRNets » Tue Dec 5, 2017 2:37 am

Prokorov wrote:
LKIRNets wrote:
bws94 wrote:
I find a lot of coming down hard on Dinwiddie's defense from this poster. Too much of it. Seems like an agenda.

No agenda, just the truth. You don't like it b/c it's honest. I even criticized Russell's defense in that post. So what's the agenda?


your agenda is the same as it was before you got banned the last 3 times. to troll this board


Listen you dense individual. This is the first time I got an account to this board.

You are talking to a new user like this on a board that doesn't have many users per day. Stop ruining the board.

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