Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIV

[JWizmentality]

I would secretly offer Wall, Oubre, and a first to New Orleans but I suspect they'd decline.

For Anthony Davis? Sure. For Cousins? No.

Who's our PG? We'd be NO East. Plus Davis seems to be oft injured.

[pcbothwel]

Is Beal or Porter available as a trade option for the right price? And what is your opinion of the right price?

I think Favors deserves to be on a good team as he is a great player but unfortunately for him Gobert is a defensive beast and is the center of our team so Favors is too good to be a backup. We have tried to use Favors as a PF but he is so much more dominant at the C position; both offensively and defensively.

I'm thinking a trade centered around Favors and Burks/Hood for Beal or Porter. Favors would have to agree to an extension as part of the trade.

Thoughts?

Not interested. The Wizards already have too many big men who can't find playing time. We don't need another. I think Favors has some potential to break out if he got to play full time center, but I wouldn't pay a price as if he has already done so.

Agreed. If you want Beal or Otto, then Mitchell is the main piece.
Mitchell and Favors for Beal would be the core of the trade.. with players like JJ and Smith/Kieff as the filler.

[nate33]

I would secretly offer Wall, Oubre, and a first to New Orleans but I suspect they'd decline.

For Anthony Davis? Sure. For Cousins? No.

Who's our PG? We'd be NO East. Plus Davis seems to be oft injured.

Dude, Anthony Davis is perhaps the highest valued asset in the league right now. Factoring current and future production who would you rather have? Maybe Giannis. Maybe Durant, but he's already 29. Maybe Embiid if you thought he'd stay healthy. Who else? He also has a great contract for a superstar. He is being paid roughly as much as Beal through the summer 2020.

Put Davis, Porter and Beal together and worry about the rest later. Yes, we'd have to do some rebalancing of the roster because there are too many bigs and not enough guards and wings, but it can be done. Ideally, Morris and Gortat are unloaded in favor of a PG and a 3&D wing.

[dr0welf]

Is Beal or Porter available as a trade option for the right price? And what is your opinion of the right price?

I think Favors deserves to be on a good team as he is a great player but unfortunately for him Gobert is a defensive beast and is the center of our team so Favors is too good to be a backup. We have tried to use Favors as a PF but he is so much more dominant at the C position; both offensively and defensively.

I'm thinking a trade centered around Favors and Burks/Hood for Beal or Porter. Favors would have to agree to an extension as part of the trade.

Thoughts?

Not interested. The Wizards already have too many big men who can't find playing time. We don't need another. I think Favors has some potential to break out if he got to play full time center, but I wouldn't pay a price as if he has already done so.

Agreed. If you want Beal or Otto, then Mitchell is the main piece.
Mitchell and Favors for Beal would be the core of the trade.. with players like JJ and Smith/Kieff as the filler.

Thanks for the feedback. Beal is a great player so I can understand. Sounds like Beal or Otto are both basically untouchable which I can appreciate. Hope he makes the all star team this year. Good Luck to you guys.

[WallToWall]

Board- would there be any interest in trading for Domantas Sabonis? I suppose if the price is right, the Pacers would trade him. What would you trade for him?
I think he will develop into a very good NBA center. He can move far better than most other centers, and once he figures out where to be, he will be able to get easy shots and put-backs, not to mention rebounds. He is 21 yo and has a lot of upside, IMO. Given that we have two centers on the other side of 30 yo, it would be good if we could get a center with some promise.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Board- would there be any interest in trading for Domantas Sabonis? I suppose if the price is right, the Pacers would trade him. What would you trade for him?
I think he will develop into a very good NBA center. He can move far better than most other centers, and once he figures out where to be, he will be able to get easy shots and put-backs, not to mention rebounds. He is 21 yo and has a lot of upside, IMO. Given that we have two centers on the other side of 30 yo, it would be good if we could get a center with some promise.

I’d like to have him. But who would we trade to get him?

[TGW]

Board- would there be any interest in trading for Domantas Sabonis? I suppose if the price is right, the Pacers would trade him. What would you trade for him?
I think he will develop into a very good NBA center. He can move far better than most other centers, and once he figures out where to be, he will be able to get easy shots and put-backs, not to mention rebounds. He is 21 yo and has a lot of upside, IMO. Given that we have two centers on the other side of 30 yo, it would be good if we could get a center with some promise.

I’d like to have him. But who would we trade to get him?

It wouldn't be less than Oubre or Porter for sure.

[Ruzious]

How about the Lakers as a trading partner - especially if they're unhappy about Ball's family issues and current scoring problems? Personally, I think he's going to be very good - rookie PG's almost always have problems - look at the other rookie PG's picked high in the last draft. How's this sound: Ball, Nance Jr and Brewer (expiring) for Wall? Nance is a reserve for the Lakers and has looked somewhat disinterested the last few times I've seen him. I get the feeling they don't consider him a major part of their future. And Wall going to LA would add a ton of excitement there. I think they'd still have cap room this offseason to go after George. Is it a win/win?

Be greedy and ask for a draft pick.

It's not a bad idea.

I prefer Julius Randle to Larry Nance Jr. Randle is only 23 years old, a couple of years younger. Randall has shown that he is a little bit more versatile, has more range, and is a little bit better shot blocker.

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Or instead of a pick, how about Hart? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1656155

LAL's already traded their 2018 1st rounder, so the best we could get would be their 2020 1st (The Stepien rule prevents them from trading their 2019 pick until after the 2018 draft.).

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Board- would there be any interest in trading for Domantas Sabonis? I suppose if the price is right, the Pacers would trade him. What would you trade for him?
I think he will develop into a very good NBA center. He can move far better than most other centers, and once he figures out where to be, he will be able to get easy shots and put-backs, not to mention rebounds. He is 21 yo and has a lot of upside, IMO. Given that we have two centers on the other side of 30 yo, it would be good if we could get a center with some promise.

I’d like to have him. But who would we trade to get him?

I like Sabonis. His pops was great and I'm sure the guy knows how to play based on what he did at Gonzaga.





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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Board- would there be any interest in trading for Domantas Sabonis? I suppose if the price is right, the Pacers would trade him. What would you trade for him?
I think he will develop into a very good NBA center. He can move far better than most other centers, and once he figures out where to be, he will be able to get easy shots and put-backs, not to mention rebounds. He is 21 yo and has a lot of upside, IMO. Given that we have two centers on the other side of 30 yo, it would be good if we could get a center with some promise.

I’d like to have him. But who would we trade to get him?

It wouldn't be less than Oubre or Porter for sure.

I might trade Oubre, but definitely not Porter. Probably not Kelly either

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How about the Lakers as a trading partner - especially if they're unhappy about Ball's family issues and current scoring problems? Personally, I think he's going to be very good - rookie PG's almost always have problems - look at the other rookie PG's picked high in the last draft. How's this sound: Ball, Nance Jr and Brewer (expiring) for Wall? Nance is a reserve for the Lakers and has looked somewhat disinterested the last few times I've seen him. I get the feeling they don't consider him a major part of their future. And Wall going to LA would add a ton of excitement there. I think they'd still have cap room this offseason to go after George. Is it a win/win?

Be greedy and ask for a draft pick.

It's not a bad idea.

I prefer Julius Randle to Larry Nance Jr. Randle is only 23 years old, a couple of years younger. Randall has shown that he is a little bit more versatile, has more range, and is a little bit better shot blocker.

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Or instead of a pick, how about Hart? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1656155

LAL's already traded their 2018 1st rounder, so the best we could get would be their 2020 1st (The Stepien rule prevents them from trading their 2019 pick until after the 2018 draft.).

I would be down for Lonzo, Nance, and Hart.

I would have to have the approval of John Wall to see if he would even want to play at a place like L.A.

It seems he and Paul George could conceivably both be Lakers next season. That might appeal to him. It could be a tremendously good career move for him as well. It would be great for basketball, perhaps.However, I would only make this kind of deal if trading Wall imminently was feasible.

This whole concept of trading Wall seems to me to be only feasible if Wall wants out, OR, if some team's GM makes an offer that is too good for the Wizards to refuse.

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[Dark Faze]

I would secretly offer Wall, Oubre, and a first to New Orleans but I suspect they'd decline.

I don't know, I guess that would depend on what you wanted in return.

What did you want in return?

Davis obviously. The problem is Wall + Oubre + First isn't fair value for a Davis on a long term deal. As he's close to expiring? Sure, things become a lot easier. But with him on 3 + years? Few if any teams have the assets.

[Ruzious]

Be greedy and ask for a draft pick.

It's not a bad idea.

I prefer Julius Randle to Larry Nance Jr. Randle is only 23 years old, a couple of years younger. Randall has shown that he is a little bit more versatile, has more range, and is a little bit better shot blocker.

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Or instead of a pick, how about Hart? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1656155

LAL's already traded their 2018 1st rounder, so the best we could get would be their 2020 1st (The Stepien rule prevents them from trading their 2019 pick until after the 2018 draft.).

I would be down for Lonzo, Nance, and Hart.

I would have to have the approval of John Wall to see if he would even want to play at a place like L.A.

It seems he and Paul George could conceivably both be Lakers next season. That might appeal to him. It could be a tremendously good career move for him as well. It would be great for basketball, perhaps.However, I would only make this kind of deal if trading Wall imminently was feasible.

This whole concept of trading Wall seems to me to be only feasible if Wall wants out, OR, if some team's GM makes an offer that is too good for the Wizards to refuse.

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And since Lopez comes off their books this offseason, why don't the Lakers shift from George as their target to Cousins. Wall and Cousins together in LA?

[Dark Faze]

Nance can start in this league but he would require a stretch 5. He's got not game outside of 3 feet, but he's a good defender and plays extremely hard. That's part of why they got Lopez there at the 5--that works alright.

Lonzo/Brad/Porter/Nance/Gortat might be able to keep up with our current mediocre win totals eventually, but they'd be easy to plan for in a playoff series

[Ruzious]

Nance can start in this league but he would require a stretch 5. He's got not game outside of 3 feet, but he's a good defender and plays extremely hard. That's part of why they got Lopez there at the 5--that works alright.

Lonzo/Brad/Porter/Nance/Gortat might be able to keep up with our current mediocre win totals eventually, but they'd be easy to plan for in a playoff series

I think eventually Nance plays a lot of small-ball center. He's played some there for LAL this season.

[Dark Faze]

I wonder if Kieff for Mirotic straight up might be a good deal. Mirotic is a little more flexible as far as where you can put him in the rotation and he's a little more engaged defensively.

[Ruzious]

Guys, read shrink's post here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1656155 3rd post from the bottom, and pat yourselves on the back.

[pcbothwel]

I wonder if Kieff for Mirotic straight up might be a good deal. Mirotic is a little more flexible as far as where you can put him in the rotation and he's a little more engaged defensively.

Why would the Bulls do that? Even if you view them as equal in terms of talent, its a lateral move with their age, contracts, etc.

The only trade im looking to make would be to send Smith, CMC and a 2nd to a team in a salary dump. Im also curious about a PG needy team sending us a 2nd for Frazier in case we need an additional asset to send along with Smith.
Thoughts / Ideas?

[Dark Faze]

I wonder if Kieff for Mirotic straight up might be a good deal. Mirotic is a little more flexible as far as where you can put him in the rotation and he's a little more engaged defensively.

Why would the Bulls do that? Even if you view them as equal in terms of talent, its a lateral move with their age, contracts, etc.

The only trade im looking to make would be to send Smith, CMC and a 2nd to a team in a salary dump. Im also curious about a PG needy team sending us a 2nd for Frazier in case we need an additional asset to send along with Smith.
Thoughts / Ideas?

*shrug*

It's *probably* one of the worst offers they'll get, but has some merit for them. Short contract length on a nice deal, tough guy presence, can play small ball 5 or the 4 alongside Markannen. Has versatility with their style of play. Remember they aren't the ones pushing this trade--its coming from Mirotic. And the guys contract is an expiring next year. So I don't see anyone offering anything that much better than Kieff. Certainly not a young piece with potential. So that leaves vets or picks. Wouldn't surprise me to see a second handed out for him, which would be superior to Kieff obviously.

[dangermouse]

What about

Mahinmi, Morris, CMC, 2020 1st

for Lopez, Mirotic, and some other throw-in of theirs?

Lopez is ~2 years younger and better than Mahinmi, less money per year for the same number of years. Mirotic replaces Morris but he costs a little more per year.

Bulls take on Mahinmi but end up only paying a little extra per year that they were spending on Lopez anyway. They can afford it and they get a future pick for the rebuild and a look at CMC. Probably helps them tank a bit better too.