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Post #21 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:24 am

getrichordie wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Doesn’t matter. Donovan doesn’t know how to coach. /s

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Beautiful utilization of the bench.

Again.

Agreed. Donovan should know how to use these quality pieces Presti went out and got him.

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Maybe try Melo with the bench..like we've said for 2 months now.

Post #22 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:25 am

getrichordie wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Doesn’t matter. Donovan doesn’t know how to coach. /s

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Beautiful utilization of the bench.

Again.

Agreed. Donovan should know how to use these quality pieces Presti went out and got him.

P.S. You may want to take a look at the plus/minus numbers of tonight’s game.

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PS you may want to realize single game plus minus is the most meaningless stat you could use.

getrichordie · Post #23 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:26 am

bondom34 wrote:and lol at the Westbrook takes. That's sad. Missed that when they were winning.

I praise Westbrook when he plays well. I criticize when he plays bad.

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Post #24 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:30 am

getrichordie wrote:
bondom34 wrote:and lol at the Westbrook takes. That's sad. Missed that when they were winning.

I praise Westbrook when he plays well. I criticize when he plays bad.

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How many PGs would you rather have?

:lol:

Bruh last year it was Lillard, the list keeps expanding. You want people to hate him and I get it, you don't like him and think he's the problem when in reality when he plays poor you harp.

And no you really don't. You keep harping like it's something, when he's by far the best player on the team and it's not terribly close. You won't call out a garbage coach or half the crap players on the roster and think Donovan's actually done something when nothing ever changed and we all told you about it. It's the same crap from game 1 and he's in over his head. He can't figure out basic lineups and literally everyone can see it (hell the Blazers board even saw it in their game thread).

Edit: Oh and you even go to other threads and claim hes a bad leader compared to 35 when 35 was literally texting his opponents before leaving and Westbrook stood up for his teammates at every stand even last year. Yeah that's just a terrible take. Your dislike knows no bounds.

bbms · Post #25 » by **bbms** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:09 am

Come back bb

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Post #26 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:55 am

Also about not interviewing, Russ left without interviewing after the Lakers win too. Its nothing.

Pillendreher · Post #27 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:28 am

You have to defend against NBA teams. If you don't, you lose. It's that simple.

Our defense has been slipping and it's not just on Robes being out. Since 12/1 (21 games), our DRtG has been 106.1. Over the first 20 games of the season it was 100.2.
Over the last 15 games: 107.1
Over the last 10 games: 110.7

With Roberson out, it's up to the rest of the guys to make an extra effort. Do one more rotation. Keep your player in front of you and not let him blow by you. Box out properly and grab defensive rebounds.
We're not doing any of that.

Over the last 10 games, Russ-George-Anthony-Adams has a DRtG of 114.6. That's horrible and it needs to be called out. We have been giving up 18 wide open 3s per game - that's a league high and even worse than the defensively trash Cavs.

Have some pride. You're getting millions for running around with a ball. Don't expect one player to carry you defensively because you're too lazy to defend properly. It's not that hard.

Pillendreher · Post #28 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:32 am

And please for the love of God can we find somebody who doesn't have this insane disconnect between what is happening on the floor and what his brain makes of it? All night long we had trouble playing any kind of defense after the initial action by Portland. So in the 3rd quarter, where we went up 2 (62-60) and gave up a 21-8 run over the following 6 minutes, Donovan does not take out Anthony to shore up the interior defense with Patterson. No, instead he takes out George, our best wing defender after Roberson, and replaces him with Huestis, who can't guard wings. Why? What's the point? How do we suck on the floor doing anything about dribble penetration after our initial counter and Donovan goes "Oh, let's take out our best defender off the floor"?!

Our coaching staff has serious trouble identifying strengths and weaknesses of players, especially when it comes to role players.

sleestak33 · Post #29 » by **sleestak33** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:59 am

Oh crap they are back to playing like garbage again. Some of these posts on here are hilarious talking about how much they miss Roberson. It's as if some of you didn't watch all of the previous games where Roberson was out there and they lost a bunch of games in this exact same fashion, especially to some of the worst teams in the league. This team is a dumpster fire at the shooting guard position. They have by far the worst collection of 2s in the NBA with Roberson, Ferguson and Abrines who are all flawed and inconsistent. 30 minutes for Ferguson with 0 points. Rookie or not that's just not going to get it done. Just when we thought they had kind of turned the corner...

Pillendreher · Post #30 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:26 pm

sleestak33 wrote:Some of these posts on here are hilarious talking about how much they miss Roberson.

Difference in On/Off DRtG from Robes to our other wings sans George:

Huestis: 14.6 pp100p worse
Abrines: 17.9 pp100p worse
Ferguson: 18.7 pp100p worse

spearsy23 · Post #31 » by **spearsy23** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
sleestak33 wrote:Some of these posts on here are hilarious talking about how much they miss Roberson.

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Difference in On/Off DRtG from Robes to our other wings sans George:

Huestis: 14.6 pp100p worse
Abrines: 17.9 pp100p worse
Ferguson: 18.7 pp100p worse

It's not called defenseball.

Reign23 · Post #32 » by **Reign23** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:43 pm

presti needs to turn some combination of abrines, ferg, 2nd round picks, huestis, johnson and grant into ONE good bench player who can defend and shoot.

Post #33 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:57 pm

bondom34 wrote:and lol at the Westbrook takes. That's sad. Missed that when they were winning.

Win or loss, I’ve consistently called Russ out for letting his man blow by him or wandering towards the basket and leaving his man. Even if Dre CAN cover for him he shouldn’t have to. It’s pretty obvious Melo is close to washed up athletically. This isn’t the case with Russ. It’s also not like he’s using all of his energy carrying an anemic offense anymore. It’s obvious to me that russ hates losing. It’s why I can’t understand why he isn’t more fundamentally sound on defense.

Post #34 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:07 pm

getrichordie wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Not an excuse for the starters, but Presti has to add some help to this bench.

Doesn’t matter. Donovan doesn’t know how to coach. /s

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I think it’s easier to overcome questionable coaching decisions when you have more talent.

This bench is awful. They would need a phenomenal coach to get them to be productive.

The starting 5 together found a groove that worked. They just don’t have that 6th guy who can step in & start when one of the guys go down.

Post #35 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:28 pm

Knrstz wrote:
bondom34 wrote:and lol at the Westbrook takes. That's sad. Missed that when they were winning.

Win or loss, I’ve consistently called Russ out for letting his man blow by him or wandering towards the basket and leaving his man. Even if Dre CAN cover for him he shouldn’t have to. It’s pretty obvious Melo is close to washed up athletically. This isn’t the case with Russ. It’s also not like he’s using all of his energy carrying an anemic offense anymore. It’s obvious to me that russ hates losing. It’s why I can’t understand why he isn’t more fundamentally sound on defense.

Not you. You recognize his faults as others. You also dont think they'd be better off with any above average PG and call out others like Billy when he's still on that island. You have reasoning and he just has terrible takes. Say what you want bit he's not lacking in desire and leadership among other things.

Post #36 » by **slick_watts** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:06 pm

russ is a great player but a poor leader. his leadership abilities have been questioned for years and under the current circumstances it's a fair thing to talk about and not something that should just be dismissed out of hand.

Post #37 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:07 pm

An aside but Portland is 6-2 without Lillard. OKC can't withstand losing Robes for a few games. What does that say and how sad is it?

Post #38 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:08 pm

And J calling him a poor leader when he did everything to always stand by teammates while 35 was texting Draymond is.....well factually inaccurate. Hes been a great leader if nothing else. I'm not doing this with you again.

Post #39 » by **slick_watts** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:08 pm

bondom34 wrote:An aside but Portland is 6-2 without Lillard. OKC can't withstand losing Robes for a few games. What does that say and how sad is it?

portland is a top 3 defense and lillard has nothing to do with that, so their position of strength isn't affected much. losing dre hurts us more than losing lillard hurts portland.

Post #40 » by **slick_watts** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:13 pm

bondom34 wrote::banghead: And J calling him a poor leader when he did everything to always stand by teammates while 35 was texting Draymond is.....well factually inaccurate. Hes been a great leader if nothing else. I'm not doing this with you again.

he does not lead by example on the court. off the court? he's terrific. a model citizen. on the court, he's reckless and disparages teammates without appearing to be open to criticism himself. he doesn't know how to motivate them and his teammates often appear alienated by him when sharing the floor. steven adams is perhaps the lone exception here.

he loses his cool too easily. opponents get under his skin and manipulate him. they even admit to doing it, and it doesn't change his behavior. does this happen to lebron james? stephen curry? kevin durant? not really. they are rocks by comparison on the court, and it makes them superior leaders.

players text each other, bondom.

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