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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#41 » by gom » Sat Jan 6, 2018 10:37 pm

His season averages per game are better, but he still needs to improve to meet and surpass last season's numbers:

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These numbers overlook the hole he has climbed out of with his poor play in October and November. Take a look at his production since then:

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Often, especially when Dragic is poor, TJ has carried the team lately.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#42 » by contract » Mon Jan 8, 2018 2:07 pm

gom wrote:Tyler is on a 4/50 contract ...

He was on a 4/50 contract. Now it's 3/44. Next year it will be 2/38. Having been a bargain for years isn't going to make the next 2 years any more appetizing.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#43 » by gom » Mon Jan 8, 2018 4:36 pm

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gom wrote:Tyler is on a 4/50 contract ...

He was on a 4/50 contract. Now it's 3/44. Next year it will be 2/38. Having been a bargain for years isn't going to make the next 2 years any more appetizing.


The fourth-year can be restructured with a longer-term contract, as long as it's more than $19.2M.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#44 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon Jan 8, 2018 6:44 pm

I say whatever.

Yes he'll be overpaid. He's also a bonafide Heat player. He plays hurt, he fight, he bring the energy every time.

He scored 16 PPG on 62% TS in 31 minutes in December. he's our own project and he's a damn good scoring guard.

Should never "unload" TJ to save a few mil$.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#45 » by Rafly » Mon Jan 8, 2018 7:54 pm

Thing is long term I think there is only room for either TJ or Dion. I’d take TJ but I guess it’ll depend who is easier to move.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#46 » by contract » Tue Jan 9, 2018 5:30 am

gom wrote:
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gom wrote:Tyler is on a 4/50 contract ...

He was on a 4/50 contract. Now it's 3/44. Next year it will be 2/38. Having been a bargain for years isn't going to make the next 2 years any more appetizing.


The fourth-year can be restructured with a longer-term contract, as long as it's more than $19.2M.

And pay him what? What makes sense for us, doesn't make sense for him.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#47 » by gom » Tue Jan 9, 2018 5:46 am

contract wrote:
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contract wrote:He was on a 4/50 contract. Now it's 3/44. Next year it will be 2/38. Having been a bargain for years isn't going to make the next 2 years any more appetizing.


The fourth-year can be restructured with a longer-term contract, as long as it's more than $19.2M.

And pay him what? What makes sense for us, doesn't make sense for him.


We have until July of 2019 to decide what to do. In any case, Tyler has been playing well above his $6M this season (& last season) and we paid him the minimum for two years before that. Average it (6/53) and it really looks like a good deal.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#48 » by contract » Tue Jan 9, 2018 12:50 pm

gom wrote:
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The fourth-year can be restructured with a longer-term contract, as long as it's more than $19.2M.

And pay him what? What makes sense for us, doesn't make sense for him.


We have until July of 2019 to decide what to do. In any case, Tyler has been playing well above his $6M this season (& last season) and we paid him the minimum for two years before that. Average it (6/53) and it really looks like a good deal.

The best case scenario is for him to play well enough to convince him that someone will pay him >$20 million per season in free agency, and he opts out of the 2nd year. It would suck to lose him, but we can't afford to overpay role players.
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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#49 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:58 pm

he official word -- or at least what supposedly was the official word -- came 90 minutes before tip-off: Tyler Johnson would not play because of the strained left shoulder that had kept him out the previous night in Toronto.

All the while, Johnson, who has taken ample blows to his head over his four seasons with the Miami Heat, kept hearing voices -- actually one particular voice.


So as the minutes ticked down toward what would turn into Wednesday night's 114-106 victory over the Indiana Pacers at Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Johnson approached coach Erik Spoelstra.

"Tyler came into my office," Spoelstra said, "and said, 'Hey, I'm going to give it a shot. Five minutes, if I can help you at the end of the quarter.' I looked at him like he was crazy. So I called up Jay [Sabol, the team's trainer] and he said it's really up to him, just play it by ear."


That's our guy.

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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#50 » by DoItALL9 » Fri Feb 9, 2018 6:35 am

Thoughts on trading him to Brooklyn next season for (cheaper) Jeremy Lin, an expiring?

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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#51 » by gom » Fri Feb 9, 2018 8:01 am

DoItALL9 wrote:Thoughts on trading him to Brooklyn next season for (cheaper) Jeremy Lin, an expiring?

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Brooklyn won't do that without incentives. Tyler has $19.2M salary the 2019-2020 season.
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Post#52 » by DoItALL9 » Fri Feb 9, 2018 12:14 pm

gom wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:Thoughts on trading him to Brooklyn next season for (cheaper) Jeremy Lin, an expiring?

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Brooklyn won't do that without incentives. Tyler has $19.2M salary the 2019-2020 season.
I'm expecting Jeremy Lin to not play next season. If that's the case then a serviceable player instead of 12M completely wasted seems enough to me.


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Re: Bumpy Thread (Tyler Johnson) 

Post#53 » by DoItALL9 » Fri Feb 9, 2018 4:38 pm

We know they were willing to pay that price at one point before

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