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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#741 » by BroncoBuck » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:19 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:MKG's a very good basketball player who can't shoot. If the Hornets are giving him away the Bucks should nab him.


He’s owed 40 million these next 3 seasons…Not what you want to pay for a complimentary player who doesn’t mesh with your best player.
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Post#742 » by fan230 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:19 pm

I think that the Bucks need a regular shooting offensive player more than a star center. KM is v good although he does have his poor shooting days not infrequently. Then we have no good shooters at all. Telly was playing well offensively but he is out. Bledsoe is not a natural shooter so he has v poor shooting days. Snell refuses to shoot more and I am beginning to believe he will never be a player who can be a good backup shooter behind Khris. Jabari also is primarily a slasher. With Giannis as the focal point, we badly need another consistent shooter who can shoot well in volume.

For a center, we should try to get a decent big body player like Bogut. We cannot decimate our already weak bench to get a daj or howard.
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Post#743 » by SupremeHustle » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:20 pm

What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?
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Post#744 » by Douggystyle29 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:22 pm

Douggystyle29 wrote:Outgoing Players
Khris Middleton
26 year old, 6-8, 234 lb SF from Texas A&M
19.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 37.0 minutes in 2017-2018
Thon Maker
20 year old, 7-0, 221 lb C from
4.6 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 18.4 minutes in 2017-2018
Incoming Players
Kelly Olynyk
26 year old, 7-0, 238 lb C from Gonzaga
10.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 23.7 minutes in 2017-2018
Justise Winslow
21 year old, 6-7, 225 lb SF from Duke
6.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 22.3 minutes in 2017-2018
Bam Adebayo
20 year old, 6-10, 245 lb C from Kentucky
6.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.3 apg in 20.1 minutes in 2017-2018
I just checked this trade in the trade checker and it works. We do it to get a couple good young talented players and gain some size and physical presence down low. Miami does it to shed Olynk's long contract and get Middleton for a playoff run, or an expiring next year to help them sign a big name free agent.


Nobody said a word about this trade I proposed. Not even a Miami laughs and hangs up the phone response. I still think it is a good trade I'm just not sure how realistic it is. I think it might be a little light for Miami but I also think a third team could be brought in to make it work. If Winslow doesn't work out, let him go and maybe sign someone like McCaw to replace Middleton. Miami wants to sign a big name free agent and it sounds like they don't want to resign Winslow. I don't think they want to let go of Adebayo but may do so to shed Olynk's long contract. The problem is that Miami becomes pretty thin upfront losing Olynk and Adebayo.
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Post#745 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:23 pm

fan230 wrote:I think that the Bucks need a regular shooting offensive player more than a star center. KM is v good although he does have his poor shooting days not infrequently. Then we have no good shooters at all. Telly was playing well offensively but he is out. Bledsoe is not a natural shooter so he has v poor shooting days. Snell refuses to shoot more and I am beginning to believe he will never be a player who can be a good backup shooter behind Khris. Jabari also is primarily a slasher. With Giannis as the focal point, we badly need another consistent shooter who can shoot well in volume.

For a center, we should try to get a decent big body player like Bogut. We cannot decimate our already weak bench to get a daj or howard.


i believe he plans to change his game a bit due to these injuries. i could see Jabari morphing into more of a shooter going forward...and less of a slasher....though hi'm sure he'll attack an open route to the hoop.
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Post#746 » by BroncoBuck » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:28 pm

Douggystyle29 wrote:
Douggystyle29 wrote:Outgoing Players
Khris Middleton
26 year old, 6-8, 234 lb SF from Texas A&M
19.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 37.0 minutes in 2017-2018
Thon Maker
20 year old, 7-0, 221 lb C from
4.6 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 18.4 minutes in 2017-2018
Incoming Players
Kelly Olynyk
26 year old, 7-0, 238 lb C from Gonzaga
10.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 23.7 minutes in 2017-2018
Justise Winslow
21 year old, 6-7, 225 lb SF from Duke
6.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 22.3 minutes in 2017-2018
Bam Adebayo
20 year old, 6-10, 245 lb C from Kentucky
6.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.3 apg in 20.1 minutes in 2017-2018
I just checked this trade in the trade checker and it works. We do it to get a couple good young talented players and gain some size and physical presence down low. Miami does it to shed Olynk's long contract and get Middleton for a playoff run, or an expiring next year to help them sign a big name free agent.


Nobody said a word about this trade I proposed. Not even a Miami laughs and hangs up the phone response. I still think it is a good trade I'm just not sure how realistic it is. I think it might be a little light for Miami but I also think a third team could be brought in to make it work. If Winslow doesn't work out, let him go and maybe sign someone like McCaw to replace Middleton. Miami wants to sign a big name free agent and it sounds like they don't want to resign Winslow. I don't think they want to let go of Adebayo but may do so to shed Olynk's long contract. The problem is that Miami becomes pretty thin upfront losing Olynk and Adebayo.


Winslow is bad, Olynyk is overpaid. Swapping Middleton for Bam is terrible value for the Bucks and I’m saying that as someone who likes Bam.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#747 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:29 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?


He's a terrific on the ball defender at four positions, excellent in transition, good as a cutter, and the shots he does take go in at a great percentage. Despite not having outside range the Hornets have consistently been better when he's on the court.
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Post#748 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:29 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?


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Post#749 » by emunney » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:30 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?


He's a great rebounder for a small and can defend just about anybody, covers a ton of ground on rotations as well. Give him Thon's minutes and some of Delly's and we would take off as a team.
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Post#750 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:32 pm

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Post#751 » by fan230 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:32 pm

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fan230 wrote:I think that the Bucks need a regular shooting offensive player more than a star center. KM is v good although he does have his poor shooting days not infrequently. Then we have no good shooters at all. Telly was playing well offensively but he is out. Bledsoe is not a natural shooter so he has v poor shooting days. Snell refuses to shoot more and I am beginning to believe he will never be a player who can be a good backup shooter behind Khris. Jabari also is primarily a slasher. With Giannis as the focal point, we badly need another consistent shooter who can shoot well in volume.

For a center, we should try to get a decent big body player like Bogut. We cannot decimate our already weak bench to get a daj or howard.


i believe he plans to change his game a bit due to these injuries. i could see Jabari morphing into more of a shooter going forward...and less of a slasher....though hi'm sure he'll attack an open route to the hoop.


Yes I agree that Jabari could morph in that direction. That would be really welcome.
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Post#752 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:33 pm

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SupremeHustle wrote:What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?


He's a great rebounder for a small and can defend just about anybody, covers a ton of ground on rotations as well. Give him Thon's minutes and some of Delly's and we would take off as a team.


small ball center?
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Post#753 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:35 pm

fan230 wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
fan230 wrote:I think that the Bucks need a regular shooting offensive player more than a star center. KM is v good although he does have his poor shooting days not infrequently. Then we have no good shooters at all. Telly was playing well offensively but he is out. Bledsoe is not a natural shooter so he has v poor shooting days. Snell refuses to shoot more and I am beginning to believe he will never be a player who can be a good backup shooter behind Khris. Jabari also is primarily a slasher. With Giannis as the focal point, we badly need another consistent shooter who can shoot well in volume.

For a center, we should try to get a decent big body player like Bogut. We cannot decimate our already weak bench to get a daj or howard.


i believe he plans to change his game a bit due to these injuries. i could see Jabari morphing into more of a shooter going forward...and less of a slasher....though hi'm sure he'll attack an open route to the hoop.


Yes I agree that Jabari could morph in that direction. That would be really welcome.

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Post#754 » by DingleJerry » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:37 pm

So like Luc Mbah Moute type but at 13 mil for 3 years. Yea any team would take guys like that on their team for cheap, but I don't want to pay them if they can't shoot when our best player can't shoot. I mean look how much we all just lambasted similar type Liggins, of course I know he's better than that, but just the general same type of player. Sadly I'd probably guess Liggins is a better 3 pt shooter than MKG
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Post#755 » by KidA24 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:37 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?


motoring


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Post#756 » by emunney » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:45 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
emunney wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:What is MKG good at? I remember being amazed by his motor, but is he actually good at anything?


He's a great rebounder for a small and can defend just about anybody, covers a ton of ground on rotations as well. Give him Thon's minutes and some of Delly's and we would take off as a team.


small ball center?


Yeah, but weird to think of it that way since he plays so much bigger than Thon. It definitely would be small ball, but we'd be getting functionally bigger.
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Post#757 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:47 pm

emunney wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
emunney wrote:
He's a great rebounder for a small and can defend just about anybody, covers a ton of ground on rotations as well. Give him Thon's minutes and some of Delly's and we would take off as a team.


small ball center?


Yeah, but weird to think of it that way since he plays so much bigger than Thon. It definitely would be small ball, but we'd be getting functionally bigger.


I could be convinced actually
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Post#758 » by DingleJerry » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:50 pm

Yea I'm pretty sure MKG could play the 5 better than Thon. I bet Bledsoe could too.
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Post#759 » by Prez » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:55 pm

All this team needs is to stop playing Thon and Delly, imo these trades involving Bledsoe or Middleton (unless it's in a package for a legit star) are unnecessary. Just need a backup C, get Jabari back, and stop playing Delly entirely.
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Post#760 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:02 pm

Prez wrote:All this team needs is to stop playing Thon and Delly, imo these trades involving Bledsoe or Middleton (unless it's in a package for a legit star) are unnecessary. Just need a backup C, get Jabari back, and stop playing Delly entirely.

agree with this take.

i'd definitely trade Midds if we could get a great piece in return, but I don't see that happening.

backup center that will come cheap are few and far between....which is why I'm leaning towards going hard at the Mavs to get Noel. Maybe they'd take a DJ Wilson and Vaughn/Terry package. I have to imagine they'd prefer the few years of control and hope on Wilson, rather than wasting a bench spot on Noel who they don't even like.

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