Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks

[NYG]

How many teams have 2 players better than Kemba Walker and Kristaps Porzingis currently?

Golden State - Curry & Durant
Houston - Harden & Paul
New Orleans - Davis & Cousins
Boston - Irving & Hortford
Minnesota - KAT & Butler

OKC - Westbrook & Paul George

Simmons and Embiid there?

[HornetJail]

nah not yet

[316Hornets]

How many teams have 2 players better than Kemba Walker and Kristaps Porzingis currently?

Golden State - Curry & Durant
Houston - Harden & Paul
New Orleans - Davis & Cousins
Boston - Irving & Hortford
Minnesota - KAT & Butler

LeBron and Love, Westbrook and George, Leonard and Aldridge, DeRozan and Lowry, Beal and Wall

Those would each have a case too. I think the Knicks would be more likely to give a fair offer for Kemba Walker than Knicks fans would like or Hornets fans seem to expect.

Well, yeah I agree. Kemba is in his prime and is probably one of the best options for the Knicks to improve their roster. Porzingis seems like a guy that isn't going to be able to handle being the only guy on that team for long as he's already showing wear. If I'm the Knicks GM, I'm offering a pretty good package for Kemba. Problem is, Hornets GM probably wants to send them some junk contract that's going to ruin any chance they have at competing at a high level. They already have Noah killing their cap for the next 2 years so they are already handcuffed and to sacrifice their youth to compete against the likes of GSW probably isn't in their best interest, although the East is probably the weakest it's ever going to be for awhile. So, if just getting to the 2nd round is something the Knicks would be satisfied with, then they can't go wrong with getting Kemba while sacrificing their youth/draft picks.

[NYG]

Golden State - Curry & Durant
Houston - Harden & Paul
New Orleans - Davis & Cousins
Boston - Irving & Hortford
Minnesota - KAT & Butler

LeBron and Love, Westbrook and George, Leonard and Aldridge, DeRozan and Lowry, Beal and Wall

Those would each have a case too. I think the Knicks would be more likely to give a fair offer for Kemba Walker than Knicks fans would like or Hornets fans seem to expect.

Well, yeah I agree. Kemba is in his prime and is probably one of the best options for the Knicks to improve their roster. Porzingis seems like a guy that isn't going to be able to handle being the only guy on that team for long as he's already showing wear. If I'm the Knicks GM, I'm offering a pretty good package for Kemba. Problem is, Hornets GM probably wants to send them some junk contract that's going to ruin any chance they have at competing at a high level. They already have Noah killing their cap for the next 2 years so they are already handcuffed and to sacrifice their youth to compete against the likes of GSW probably isn't in their best interest, although the East is probably the weakest it's ever going to be for awhile. So, if just getting to the 2nd round is something the Knicks would be satisfied with, then they can't go wrong with getting Kemba while sacrificing their youth/draft picks.

I think the compromise ends up being the Knicks don’t take any bad contracts, but give up their 1st (with a reasonable protection) and Ntilikina in the deal. A Knicks team getting to the second round every year with Walker and Porzingis on board is a solid destination once they have cap space.

[JMAC3]

If I’m the Knicks I’m taking that deal and running. The goal for a team with a superstar like KP in my mind is to get to 3 allstars. If you can get to 3 allstars then you have a chance to make a finals. You can’t get to 3 without first getting 2. May seem obvious, but teams seem to think you just magically wake up with multiple allstars overnight.

Once you have 2 stars it’s easier to find a 3rd. Guys want to come play for you in free agency, draft prospects have less pressure, and you feel safer making trades to find that last guy. If Toronto could of ever found another piece or Spurs find another guy to go with Leonard and Aldridge then I think they have something.

Getting three allstars is a process. Which is why I think it’s silly for a team like Denver to hodl all their young guys, it’s too difficult to try and develop all of them. If you don’t feel comfortable letting 1 or 2 go then you don’t have a good feel for your development or have little faith.

Phoenix for example if you have Booker and Kemba. You really only need one of Jackson, Warren, Bender, Chriss or their first this year to make that step. Giving up 2 of those swings for a guaranteed 45 ppg backcourt has a ton of merit. They should say these are 2 guys who we believe the most in and then look to move two of those pieces for Kemba. Chances of two of those guys becoming studs isn’t great so why not limit your floor and get a proven allstar.

Waiting to become the next sixers is really putting a lot of faith in prospect development. Look what Minnesota did in saying we have two good young players, let’s make sure we get a third with Butler.



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[HornetJail]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article196084984.html

Hopefully this was all a false alarm.

Charlotte Hornets majority owner Michael Jordan said Monday night he’s not looking to trade point guard Kemba Walker, and would do so only if the return included a major All-Star, such as the San Antonio Spurs’ Kawhi Leonard.

so he's going nowhere.

“I’m not looking to trade Kemba, but I would listen to opportunities.”

“Obviously, the season has been a disappointment so far, and there have been teams asking about players. Also, we’ve been asking about players,” Jordan said, with the NBA’s trade deadline looming Feb. 8. “We ask teams who they like on our roster and they always say Kemba.

“It’s not like we are shopping him. We would not just give him up. I love Kemba Walker. I would not trade him for anything but an All-Star player.”

Jordan said he explained to Walker Friday that while the NBA is a business where sometimes popular players get traded, it is not the Hornets’ agenda to make wholesale changes right now.

“I’m telling you I believe in my team,” Jordan concluded. “I’m disappointed in our record and I’m frustrated at times. But I’m telling you I like everything about Kemba’s work. I’m not just going to throw him away.”

[Bassman]

Damage control by Jordan. The plant of Kemba in the shopping list of players to Woj was intentional. The blowback was more than bargained for. I think Cho put out the info, but it made it look like a fire sale was on. IF MJ seriously means only getting another all-star back for Kemba is acceptable, then he is going nowhere. The whole purpose of this exercise is to shed horrible contracts. I fear there is no path forward to unload Batum, short of a swap that has a similar bad deal but maybe a better fit with our team.

[bravor]

It's above all a clear statement about how mediocre the roster is besides Kemba (well, except for Cody since he was not mentioned).

If there was some "big" trade before deadline, i guess it would involve MKG more than anyone else. Even Marvin does not seem to draw any interest.
If Batum's contract had a 5th year TO, i guess it would have been a whole other story..

No matter what, they need an elite two ways sg to pair with Kemba. And once it's done, they will need to replace Howard with a rim protector (through draft).

[316Hornets]

MJ is saving face. He's realized that trading away Kemba is going to hurt his wallet a lot. We just have to accept mediocrity until our players either improve or their contracts run out. Only guy I think we may trade is MKG. His skillset is better for a team that has more 3 point shooters so he can hit those midrange jumpers he likes so much and play lockdown D. Houston comes to mind.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Maybe - but I imagine that the conversation was more like this:

Cho: We've asked other teams what they are willing to offer for our guys. We are always looking to get better and we are constantly in talks with other teams.
Woj: Have you gotten any offers?
Cho: Of course. We haven't had one that we want to pull the trigger on yet though.
Woj: You're accepting offers on anyone?
Cho: Yes. We are open to any offer.
Woj: Including Kemba?
Cho: There isn't anyone on the team who can't be traded for the right offer, but they would really have to knock our socks off for us to take a Kemba trade seriously.
Woj: Got it.

Headlines:
"Hornets Have Tried To Trade Nicolas Batum, Dwight Howard, Marvin Williams, Kidd-Gilchrist"
"Kemba Walker Made Available In Trade Talks By Hornets"

[Liver_Pooty]

Jalen Rose just said on ESPN that Kawhi wants out of SA badly. Assuming thats the case (probably not) we need to go after him.

[catch20two]

Jalen Rose just said on ESPN that Kawhi wants out of SA badly. Assuming thats the case (probably not) we need to go after him.

Lol it’s funny to see the Spurs go damn near 20 years straight being a franchise of example that did everything right whereas you never heard a peep of controversy and now all of a sudden there’s all kinds of chaos.

Their two best players, Kawhi and Aldridge want to be traded. Possible HOF’er Tony Parker is getting demoted to the bench for a fringe rotation player.

[HornetJail]

Jalen Rose just said on ESPN that Kawhi wants out of SA badly. Assuming thats the case (probably not) we need to go after him.

how do you propose we do this? we tried to get Jimmy Butler before Chicago shipped him off and we apparently didn't/couldn't offer enough to make it happen.

[Liver_Pooty]

Jalen Rose just said on ESPN that Kawhi wants out of SA badly. Assuming thats the case (probably not) we need to go after him.

how do you propose we do this? we tried to get Jimmy Butler before Chicago shipped him off and we apparently didn't/couldn't offer enough to make it happen.

Im assuming we didn't offer Walker in those talks. Thats the only way we would get Leonard.

[SeanBobcats]

Us getting Kawhi is pretty much impossible.

[HornetJail]

Jalen Rose just said on ESPN that Kawhi wants out of SA badly. Assuming thats the case (probably not) we need to go after him.

how do you propose we do this? we tried to get Jimmy Butler before Chicago shipped him off and we apparently didn't/couldn't offer enough to make it happen.

Im assuming we didn't offer Walker in those talks. Thats the only way we would get Leonard.

It sounds totally crazy, but there's a couple reasons I wouldn't even do that.

1) What is going on with Kawhi's quad injury? They've held him out basically the entire season for something that was seemingly a minor injury. Till we know what's going on there, the fact that the Spurs would even entertain such a trade should be a red flag.

2) We have a star who wants to be here, and we definitely don't know that about Leonard. Even if he gets healthy and he's 100% normal next season, there's a real chance that we only get one year of him and he's gone.

3) This team without Kemba is a complete dumpster fire. If Kawhi's injury isn't setting off warning sirens, we would have to clean house in order to get him, probably a future pick too, meaning Kawhi would probably be playing with Dwight, scrubs, probably MCW at PG, a dysfunctional coach and FO, and that's it. After 6.5 years winning 55-65 games a year with the **** Spurs organization, think Kawhi is going to like being the only player worth a **** on a 30 win team? Nope, he's gone July 1st, 2019.

It just doesn't make any kind of sense to move Kemba for a better star that becomes a free agent in the next 3-4 years.

[catch20two]

Something tells me that Kawhi wouldn’t look as good as a player outside of Pop’s system. Don’t get me wrong, he’ll get numbers, but we’ll still be a losing team as long as Clifford is the coach and if Cho don’t know how to manage getting a half decent backup PG then imagine him trying to find a starter lol. I’d suspect everyone will get their hopes up about drafting Trae Young. I’m sure whatever bottom 3 team that need a PG will take him before we even get that chance.

[JDR720]

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[MPM]

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Hmmm...wonder what the thought was?

Kemba, Lamb for Brogdon, Middleton, pick works.

some combo of Bledsoe (expiring), Middleton for Kemba, Batum works as well.

[skones]

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Hmmm...wonder what the thought was?

Kemba, Lamb for Brogdon, Middleton, pick works.

some combo of Bledsoe (expiring), Middleton for Kemba, Batum works as well.

If Milwaukee called, it was likely under the guise of dealing some combination of Bledsoe/Parker/Brogdon, not Middleton. It would be an attempt to upgrade on Bledsoe.