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Re: KIDD FIRED 

Post#1301 » by Licensed to Il » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:15 pm

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JustinCredible wrote:Noted that Wes Edens was the only owner present at the Bradley Center yesterday and was also the owner who most vocally backed Horst for the GM job over the summer“


This might explain the reasoning for their caution in announcing Prunty as interim for the rest of the season. They needed to get confirmation from Lasry and Dinan that they were on board with that, and it is possible that they hadn't by the time the pregame presser took place.


With this small group of hands on owners, and the governorship effectively being "first among equals"; I can imagine there's a lot of decision by committee - one person at a time process. Kinda clunky.


I thought about this as well. I imagine there was some negotiating going on between the FO and Prunty's agent. To take on the added responsibility of head coach for over half a season surely brings additional compensation. My guess is they were planning on going with Prunty the whole time, but could not announce it until they did because contractual stuff was still being negotiated.

There is some "football influenced" thinking going on here when it comes to new coaches. Since NFL staffs get fired on "Black Monday" and new hires put together new staffs and hit the senior bowl and start installing playbooks adnd all of that has been in the news cycle lately.. I think a lot of guys around here think that you can make a similar full staff change in the NBA this time of year. Its just not possible to bring in a complete outsider. At least not for a team that legitimately wants to make the playoffs. For goodness sake, Tom Thibbedeau plays a defensive scheme where players are given a binder as to how to defend a pick and roll AGAINST EVERY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. You can't compete against that type of nuance with an outsider coming in and abandoning an entire offseason and first half of the season of plays, terminology, etc.

It was always going to be Prunty or someone on staff.
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Re: KIDD FIRED 

Post#1302 » by SupremeHustle » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:16 pm

The studio hired me to do a tiny rewrite.

HKPackFan wrote:So maybe it went down like this.


During late morning practice...

Kidd: nononono! Run it again!

Brogdon: "ummm..... Coach Kidd sir..... I know we've been practicing the down by 3 with 2 seconds left, force a pass to Kris, let him take a contested off balance 3ptr, play for the past 3+ years, but I've been talking to the analytics guys and they said tracking it, the play has a 19.7% chance of success, and honestly, the whole league knows its coming, can't we practice something else besides this?"

Kidd: wtf are you talking to those God damn nerds for! They've never played bball, have they? I'm sure **** hall of famer, they can shove those pencils up their ass! Just because u went to school and got a bachelor's degree you think you know everything Poindexter?!"

Brogdon: "actually it's a masters degree."

Kidd: "**** YOU MAN! YOU PIECE OF ****! GO **** YOURSELF!"

Vaughn: "Jabari man, I'm going to FaceTime you in, Kidd's **** lost his ****."

Kidd: mother ****! Who do you think you are? The president!? You **** athletically limited little bitch!

Jabari: "woah. That's why I never talk to him, he's such a goddamn a hole."

Vaughn chuckles.

Kidd: wtf are you smiling at, Vaughn! You are the biggest mistake I ever made convincing them to draft you! Good luck ever seeing the court again! You will not be leaving that bench anytime soon!"

Kilpatrick: damn coach, chill he's just a kid.

Kidd: WHAT THE **** YOU SAY!? YOU MOTHER ****! GET OUT, YOU ARE DONE! YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM! I'M DONE WITH YOU! IN FACT, GOOD LUCK EVER SEEING THE FLOOR EVER AGAIN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE! I WILL CALL EVERY TEAM, EVERY COACH, EVERY GM, EVERY OWNER AND MAKE SURE NO ONE EVER PICKS YOU UP! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!?

Snell: Come on, fellows. Let's all take a breather. I know things are tough right now but golly-gee, together we can lift each other off the floor and reach new heights!

Kidd: **** you too, Tony. How many chances have I given you? I even give you backup minutes at the five.

Snell: For the last time that's not me, coach. That's Thon.

Kidd: Well you **** look alike to me. Stop lookin alike.

Thon: That is preposterous! Anyone willing to take the time to offer even a cursory passing glance at our physiques could discern-

Kidd: Hey, black Frasier Crane. Shut the **** up and go to high school again-again. Bitch ass ****.

Vaughn chuckles.


Horst: feign! This is urgent. Kidd's gone ****. He's lost it, we can't wait any longer.

Feign: alright, just lets just meet him for lunch, we will calm him down, we cant fire him a few hours before a game, call me back, set up a lunch the 3 of us will go.

Later at lunch......

Kidd: you need to understand, that if you say pizza you're not understanding that to really understand pizza it's new York style thin crust is actually pizza, it's important to understand that pizza is not understanding pizza unless it's new York, understand?

Horst: listen, Kidd that kind of outburst at practice, can't be tolerated, you can't blow up like that.

Kidd: **** you gumby! Pass me a garlic bread roll biiiyaatch!

Feign: Kidd, wtf!

Kidd: this place is bull. Look at our server, she's too young, doesn't get what she needs to do, there's no effort or energy there, this place sucks! Don't you tell me ****, do you know who I am!?

Later after lunch.

Horst: guys, kidd gone bat **** crazy. We need to fire him now. This can't wait.
Feign : Ya, he's out of his **** mind.
Lasry/Edens: ok do it, but tell Giannis now.

After Giannis gets the news:

Giannis: coach Kidd! Noooooooooo! You were supposed to take me to the mountain top. You were my Mr. Miyagi!
Kidd: yes my little grasshopper, everything you learned, is because of me. Tell the truth to the world and let them know I created you, I made you who you are today. Because I am the trainer of trainers, the master of masters, the great all knowing Jason Kidd. Maybe one day little grasshopper, may we meet again, but hopefully I have blessed you with enough of my knowledge and my training that you may become something more one day. Good luck grasshopper I knew this was coming, I had forseen it, because I see all and I know all. Goodbye.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1303 » by averageposter » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:17 pm

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averageposter wrote:You fire a guy mid-afternoon on gameday, with 3 days rest following that's a chemistry issue if I have ever seen one anyway.


Huh? How so?


That's difficult timing, Players got to play after the news. Operationally etc, media for gameday and all that stuff. It just a bunch of headaches that aren't there Tuesday morning. I just assumed some blow up happened and made it the right time.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1304 » by DingleJerry » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:20 pm

Great stuff, I actually did laugh out loud on that which is pretty rare for me
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1305 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:25 pm

I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1306 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:28 pm

crkone wrote:
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xTitan wrote:Middleton referred to Kidd as the head of the snake.....no way that can be spun as a positive.


when was this?



https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2018/01/23/bucks-players-know-they-must-pull-together-wake-jason-kidds-firing/1057082001/?from=new-cookie

Khris Middleton added: “We’ve got to (come together). When the head man goes, the head of the snake, we have to all buy in together and come together and do it for one another.”

Eh I wonder if he misspoke. NBA players aren’t wordsmiths and just wanted to say he was the leader and main guy. Would like to watch the tape of it.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1307 » by econniption » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:28 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?


That'd be my guess as why he's still there.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1308 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:28 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?

assume so
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1309 » by SirChurros » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:29 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?


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Re: KIDD FIRED 

Post#1310 » by kid idioteque » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:30 pm

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Watch this boys, you won't be disappointed.


KG and Rasheed talking about professionalism

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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1311 » by Sauce Boss » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:30 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?

I'd think so. You need to keep your star happy, and I think firing his guy unceremoniously in the middle of the season would be a good way to piss him off. I wonder if he stays on staff in a new role, or if we part with him in the summer.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1312 » by crkone » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:31 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?


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Depends if Kidd was the one to decide how Sweeney ran the defense. Sweeney could have hated it from the get-go but had to listen to boss. Grasping at straws here. :D

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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1313 » by JEIS » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:41 pm

So, Giannis resting his knee for two games could be just disciplinary actions?

Maybe Giannis doesn't like Kidd?, just regrets being the reason he got fired... feels guilty.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1314 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:45 pm

JEIS wrote:So, Giannis resting his knee for two games could be just disciplinary actions?

Maybe Giannis doesn't like Kidd?, just regrets being the reason he got fired... feels guilty.

perhaps
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1315 » by 3Diamantidis » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:48 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?



That will be a problem.
If this guy is responsible for the D he should be fired before kidd.

The bucks are unlucky because giannis lost his father at summer. The only guy who could help giannis see things differently now.
Advise him, calm him down.
Giannis lost hammond, his father and now kidd in a few months.
For a guy that creates strong bonds, this ain't easy. Aside of his family, hammond and kidd were important for him.
If this guy is the last guy giannis trusts, the team needs a good plan in making giannis feel secure again.
Sweeney must go at summer but the handling on that one must be very different.
Careful now, we don't want to create armageddon when we should be aiming for the top.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1316 » by skones » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:50 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?


If anyone deserves some credit for Giannis's development, it's probably Sweeney. He's the guy following him around during the summers.

The defense? yeahhhhhhhh
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Re: KIDD FIRED 

Post#1317 » by sidney lanier » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:52 pm

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Doesn't seem helpful to chemistry, but then I don't rock skinny jeans on national TV and think I'm Rick Mahorn because I once stepped to Anthony Peeler.


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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1318 » by emunney » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:57 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?


He pre-dated Kidd with the Nets. Kidd and Hughes on the other hand go waaaaay back. Hughes was an assistant at Cal when Kidd was there.
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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1319 » by Sauce Boss » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:58 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:I'm mildly surprised Sweeney isn't gone. Kidd guy his whole career, director of a terrible defense. He's only here now because he's Giannis's guy, right?


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Re: KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired 

Post#1320 » by smauss » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:58 pm

I am truly concerned about Sweeney still being here........ truly unsettling. I only hope is that when a final decision is made on the HC, that he will do some serious house-cleaning......... spring is right around the corner........
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