What is Devin Booker's Ceiling?

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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#21 » by Shock Defeat » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:30 am

His ceiling is nothing until he leaves the Suns organization.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#22 » by Revived » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:36 am

In a thread about this 2 years ago, most here said Klay Thompson:

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Interested to see if that opinion has changed.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#23 » by HoopsMalone » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:48 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:
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This could be the worst post in realgm 2018.



Or one of the most accurate and grounded in reality


Booker was voted #4 (guard) in the West by the players in this year all-star vote...but you're not sure he'll ever crack the top 100?



And i came in 3rd for school president by putting up posters of myself wearing nothing but a jockstrap and shoulder pads that said "HoopsMalone always uses protection" . Who cares about a popularity contest.

Im talking about actual substance. Booker doesnt have any yet. He's a neutral player. His defense completely negates his offense
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#24 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:11 pm

Ultimately it depends on his defense. If he can start putting in solid effort on that end of the floor like Towns began to this season, it is much higher as an overall player. He's shown glimpses of being a pretty capable defender.

As far as offense/shooting goes, with the way he's taken a jump this season, and his current age, younger than guys like Donovan Mitchell and Ben Simmons, I won't put a cap on what his ceiling can be. I wasn't sure after last year, but the jump in efficiency this year is extremely impressive.

He has shown to be a capable play maker, though his ast/to ratio isn't great. I do think it would be better if he had better teammates though. The Suns have been a very poor shooting team as of late and he often would/will set up guys well only for them to clank shots, which of course, happens with everyone, but I feel it probably is amplified a bit by playing with his current extremely young roster.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#25 » by Christine-In-AZ » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:23 am

HoopsMalone wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
HoopsMalone wrote:

Or one of the most accurate and grounded in reality


Booker was voted #4 (guard) in the West by the players in this year all-star vote...but you're not sure he'll ever crack the top 100?



And i came in 3rd for school president by putting up posters of myself wearing nothing but a jockstrap and shoulder pads that said "HoopsMalone always uses protection" . Who cares about a popularity contest.

Im talking about actual substance. Booker doesnt have any yet. He's a neutral player. His defense completely negates his offense


Never happen of course, but Suns FO calls the Hornets and says..."We'll trade you Devin Booker for Kemba Walker straight up". Charlotte FO calls HoopsMalone and says..."Can we trade Kemba Walker for Devin Booker? It's your call buddy"

Then you say to the Hornets FO- "_____ __________ ______"

We're waiting, for the record
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#26 » by TheHartBreakKid » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:53 am

His ceiling? Efficient upper 20 point game scorer with mediocre but acceptable defense if placed on a good defensive team, Who has the ability to average 5 assists a game simply due to the attention he gets as a scorer.


So basically, a slightly better scoring version of current Derozan with a better 3 point shot.


Kid is one of the most talented scoring prospects I've seen in a long time. I see Klay comparisons alot, but while he will never be the defender that Klay is, and being as good of a shooter as Klay is probably his shooting ceiling, he's definitely more fluid and versitle off the dribble than Klay is. Klay isn't someone who can't make plays off the dribble...he has a solid floater/pullup/midrange game, he can make shots off the dribble, and he can attack the basket, but I think Booker is already a step ahead of him in terms of attacking the basket and different ways of scoring rather than just shooting.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#27 » by Kool_Name_Right » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:56 am

Could be another Dame Lillard mold.

A 25+ 5 and 5 PG that can lead your team to the playoffs.

Time will tell..

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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#28 » by HoopsMalone » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:14 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:
HoopsMalone wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
Booker was voted #4 (guard) in the West by the players in this year all-star vote...but you're not sure he'll ever crack the top 100?



And i came in 3rd for school president by putting up posters of myself wearing nothing but a jockstrap and shoulder pads that said "HoopsMalone always uses protection" . Who cares about a popularity contest.

Im talking about actual substance. Booker doesnt have any yet. He's a neutral player. His defense completely negates his offense


Never happen of course, but Suns FO calls the Hornets and says..."We'll trade you Devin Booker for Kemba Walker straight up". Charlotte FO calls HoopsMalone and says..."Can we trade Kemba Walker for Devin Booker? It's your call buddy"

Then you say to the Hornets FO- "_____ __________ ______"

We're waiting, for the record



RIght now they are world's apart. Booker wouldn't be in the same hemisphere as Kemba Walker who is a top ~25 player in the league.

There's not a ton of context so I'll just say for the next 4 years since that's a decent estimate of contract length I'd take Kemba. His knees are deteriorating and Kemba is a player who depends a lot of athleticism so I'll concede it's possible that Booker could be the better player in 4-5 years. But Kemba has such a stranglehold over the next 2-3 that banking those Kemba years now just makes a lot more sense.

Kemba is easily the better offensive AND defensive player.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#29 » by Christine-In-AZ » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:33 am

HoopsMalone wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
HoopsMalone wrote:

And i came in 3rd for school president by putting up posters of myself wearing nothing but a jockstrap and shoulder pads that said "HoopsMalone always uses protection" . Who cares about a popularity contest.

Im talking about actual substance. Booker doesnt have any yet. He's a neutral player. His defense completely negates his offense


Never happen of course, but Suns FO calls the Hornets and says..."We'll trade you Devin Booker for Kemba Walker straight up". Charlotte FO calls HoopsMalone and says..."Can we trade Kemba Walker for Devin Booker? It's your call buddy"

Then you say to the Hornets FO- "_____ __________ ______"

We're waiting, for the record



RIght now they are world's apart. Booker wouldn't be in the same hemisphere as Kemba Walker who is a top ~25 player in the league.

There's not a ton of context so I'll just say for the next 4 years since that's a decent estimate of contract length I'd take Kemba. His knees are deteriorating and Kemba is a player who depends a lot of athleticism so I'll concede it's possible that Booker could be the better player in 4-5 years. But Kemba has such a stranglehold over the next 2-3 that banking those Kemba years now just makes a lot more sense.

Kemba is easily the better offensive AND defensive player.


So if I understand you correctly, you would tell the the Hornets to say "no we will pass" on a straight Walker for Booker trade tomorrow.

Correct?
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#30 » by Christine-In-AZ » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:35 am

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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#32 » by levon » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:48 am

Bigger Dame. Whatever Dame's ceiling is.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#33 » by Ugly0598 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:49 am

Needs to leave the bad culture that PHX has built since Nash left, but I imagine they'll resign him to a fat contract.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#34 » by LakersLegacy » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:31 am

He could turn into what Brandon Roy was going to become.
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Post#35 » by GiggitySmalls » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:28 am

HoopsMalone wrote:Not nearly as high as everyone thinks. He doesn't look likely to ever be an adequate defender. And I'm not sure he's skilled enough to be a kyrie/kemba/lillard type offensive player.

He needs to convert to PG to become less of a defensive liability.

Top 50-75 player for a few years is probably his ceiling but Im not sure he ever cracks top 100.

Hwhat???

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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#36 » by Winsome Gerbil » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:46 am

Ina traditional SG starved league, he's obviously going to be one of the top guys for a long time. But I'm not sure he has shown the all around stuff to be a true franchise player. Great scorer getting more dangerous all the time, but we have to see about the rest of the stuff.
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Post#37 » by Mbrahv0528 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:50 am

MugzZo wrote:
HoopsMalone wrote:Not nearly as high as everyone thinks. He doesn't look likely to ever be an adequate defender. And I'm not sure he's skilled enough to be a kyrie/kemba/lillard type offensive player.

He needs to convert to PG to become less of a defensive liability.

Top 50-75 player for a few years is probably his ceiling but Im not sure he ever cracks top 100.

Hwhat???

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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#38 » by Damkac » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:24 am

HoopsMalone wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
HoopsMalone wrote:

And i came in 3rd for school president by putting up posters of myself wearing nothing but a jockstrap and shoulder pads that said "HoopsMalone always uses protection" . Who cares about a popularity contest.

Im talking about actual substance. Booker doesnt have any yet. He's a neutral player. His defense completely negates his offense


Never happen of course, but Suns FO calls the Hornets and says..."We'll trade you Devin Booker for Kemba Walker straight up". Charlotte FO calls HoopsMalone and says..."Can we trade Kemba Walker for Devin Booker? It's your call buddy"

Then you say to the Hornets FO- "_____ __________ ______"

We're waiting, for the record



RIght now they are world's apart. Booker wouldn't be in the same hemisphere as Kemba Walker who is a top ~25 player in the league.

There's not a ton of context so I'll just say for the next 4 years since that's a decent estimate of contract length I'd take Kemba. His knees are deteriorating and Kemba is a player who depends a lot of athleticism so I'll concede it's possible that Booker could be the better player in 4-5 years. But Kemba has such a stranglehold over the next 2-3 that banking those Kemba years now just makes a lot more sense.

Kemba is easily the better offensive AND defensive player.

It's great to read totally unbiased, objective post like this one.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#39 » by SlowPaced » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:15 pm

-TheDocOfDenial wrote:
HoopsMalone wrote:Not nearly as high as everyone thinks. He doesn't look likely to ever be an adequate defender. And I'm not sure he's skilled enough to be a kyrie/kemba/lillard type offensive player.

He needs to convert to PG to become less of a defensive liability.

Top 50-75 player for a few years is probably his ceiling but Im not sure he ever cracks top 100.


This could be the worst post in realgm 2018.


He has plenty of candidates for that title.
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Re: What is Devin Booker's Ceiling? 

Post#40 » by Side beard » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:28 pm

2nd best SG of all time.

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