Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[shakendfries]

i loved what he did for that rebuild in boston... stevens sung his praises being instrumental in their turnaround

he replace caroll as a leader and really just has 1 more year on his deal. to get a first. id do it.

team or player option?

[SpeedyG]

i loved what he did for that rebuild in boston... stevens sung his praises being instrumental in their turnaround

he replace caroll as a leader and really just has 1 more year on his deal. to get a first. id do it.

team or player option?

spotrac has him signed through 2019/2020, fully guaranteed. he also makes about 3m more than demarre.

He'll be making nearly 19M the year Russell and Rondae extension kicks in.

[Prokorov]

i loved what he did for that rebuild in boston... stevens sung his praises being instrumental in their turnaround

he replace caroll as a leader and really just has 1 more year on his deal. to get a first. id do it.

team or player option?

spotrac has him signed through 2019/2020, fully guaranteed. he also makes about 3m more than demarre.

He'll be making nearly 19M the year Russell and Rondae extension kicks in.

right but that doesnt really matter since we would be over the cap at that point anyhow. id rather be over the cap with an extra first round pick on a rookie scale deal...

you can also look at it this way:

Justin Hamilton for Evan turner and 2 first rounders

[Claud]

ET does nothing for us and PDX pick will be mid to low 20s more than likely. I don't hate it but DMC>ET for our system although the extra pick could allow us to bundle that pick plus our TOR pick to move up in case Marks sees someone worth moving up for.

[vincecarter4pres]

team or player option?

spotrac has him signed through 2019/2020, fully guaranteed. he also makes about 3m more than demarre.

He'll be making nearly 19M the year Russell and Rondae extension kicks in.

right but that doesnt really matter since we would be over the cap at that point anyhow. id rather be over the cap with an extra first round pick on a rookie scale deal...

you can also look at it this way:

Justin Hamilton for Evan turner and 2 first rounders

Yeah, unless the plan is to throw a big offer sheet at a Rodney Hood, Cousins, Paul George, etc., or to go after a Khris Middleton or Kawhi or something in the summer of '19, it really doesn't matter if we take on bad salary as long as it doesn't extend past the '19-20 season.

I hate the idea of Turner specifically though. He's so ball dominant and a mediocre at best shooter with no range. His contract is so big and he's not so terrible a player where you can Mozgov him though, so he takes minutes and opportunity away from all our most important young guys.

[MrDollarBills]

Thoughts on Evan Turner and 2018 1st for Carroll? Just a random idea that popped into the noggin far to late at night

we'll take your 2018 1st and any mix of expiring contracts that can make salaries match. no long term salary. Evan Turner is not someone who fits into our scheme.

i actully love that trade.... yeah we know turner is an inefficient player who doesnt shoot threes but you will find fewer better teammates in the entire league and he does alot with a team offense. he really moves the ball well and provides a vet leadership

i loved what he did for that rebuild in boston... stevens sung his praises being instrumental in their turnaround

he replace caroll as a leader and really just has 1 more year on his deal. to get a first. id do it.

I thought he was locked in longer than that. if he expires next year I wouldn't balk at it if we can get a 1st rounder, no strings attached.

[MrDollarBills]

i loved what he did for that rebuild in boston... stevens sung his praises being instrumental in their turnaround

he replace caroll as a leader and really just has 1 more year on his deal. to get a first. id do it.

team or player option?

spotrac has him signed through 2019/2020, fully guaranteed. he also makes about 3m more than demarre.

He'll be making nearly 19M the year Russell and Rondae extension kicks in.

ugh, no thanks. we don't need that.

[vincecarter4pres]

team or player option?

spotrac has him signed through 2019/2020, fully guaranteed. he also makes about 3m more than demarre.

He'll be making nearly 19M the year Russell and Rondae extension kicks in.

ugh, no thanks. we don't need that.

Yeah, Prok was saying his contract runs one season longer than Carroll. Yuck.

[SpeedyG]

team or player option?

spotrac has him signed through 2019/2020, fully guaranteed. he also makes about 3m more than demarre.

He'll be making nearly 19M the year Russell and Rondae extension kicks in.

right but that doesnt really matter since we would be over the cap at that point anyhow. id rather be over the cap with an extra first round pick on a rookie scale deal...

you can also look at it this way:

Justin Hamilton for Evan turner and 2 first rounders

This goes against everything I've seen you discuss regarding cap flexibility.

If it was a better pick, I might consider it. But we're looking at another, at best 18 to 24 pick here. Not worth it for a guy who doesn't fit our scheme.

Many blasted the Blazers for bringing Turner back after they matched Crabbe. Now you are advocating the same thing for us here for a late pick? while effectively adding money to our cap? for a guy who doesn't fit?

as I said before, we shouldn't be as desperate now to acquire picks since we are at the end of the Boston trade that we take in a player/contract that makes no sense for this team.

We still have Joe and Spencer. I personally want both back, but if Sean feels that we are still so far apart that it makes no sense to keep either/or, those can be packaged for DMC and acquire similar pick as Portland without eating a bad contract/bad fit like Turner.

[DusterBuster]

ET does nothing for us and PDX pick will be mid to low 20s more than likely. I don't hate it but DMC>ET for our system although the extra pick could allow us to bundle that pick plus our TOR pick to move up in case Marks sees someone worth moving up for.

That's not true. That pick will be low-teens to early 20's at the lowest. I'm actually not very bullish on the idea that the Blazers will make the playoffs due to the fact that their final month of the season is BRUTAL and they can't seem to separate themselves from the mess of teams in the 5-9 seeds in the West (OKC, Denver, Clippers, New Orleans). Portland has been an absolutely Jekyll and Hyde team this year and here is there upcoming March schedule....

vs MIN
vs OKC
@ LAL
vs NYK
vs GSW
vs MIA
vs CLE
vs DET
@ LAC
vs HOU
vs BOS
@ OKC
@ NOP
@ MEM
vs LAC

It's home (where they've actually been more inconsistent this year) game heavy, but it's also LITTERED with 90% playoff teams. By my estimations, Portland has only 3-4 sure wins in there (LAL, NYK, MEM and maybe MIA). New Orleans has absolutely owned the Blazers this year, so I have no confidence in them getting that win and forget about Houston, Cleveland, GSW or Boston. So even if you generously give the Blazers 4 of those "sure" wins, they're likely already at a losing record with 5 "sure" losses. Then you got a bunch of tossups with MIN (which leans toward loss if Butler is healthy), OKC x2, DET and LAC x2.

That's a long winded (and probably way more depth that was needed on a Nets form lol) way to say that the Blazers playoff spot is FAR from guaranteed.

[treiz]

I wouldn't be upset at turning Crabbe/Mozgov into Kevin Love tbh. I wouldn't trade any of Dinwiddie/Russell/LeVert/RHJ/Allen (hey wouldn't it be great to run this line up on the floor at times?) for him.

I think however, you can't dismiss the fact that the Nets are looking to build a sustainable winning program. So that may mean they are going to invest more into their young assets than to bring in a win now player while guys are still below age 25, 26.

Agree fully, adding Love is good and all but it doesn't really solve any future problems, in fact it actually creates more problems for the future unless Crabbe/Mozgov are involved.

Given the choice to either trade for or not trade for Love, I'd rather pass and let this thing run its course.

[treiz]

Thoughts on Evan Turner and 2018 1st for Carroll? Just a random idea that popped into the noggin far to late at night

we'll take your 2018 1st and any mix of expiring contracts that can make salaries match. no long term salary. Evan Turner is not someone who fits into our scheme.

Why are the Nets opposed to taking on salary at the moment? Most national talking heads seem to believe the Nets would be open to taking on some salary for picks a la Hinkie-Sixers. Curious why Net fans think different.

Because if we take on any more we'd be over the cap, and with the extensions of Dlo and RHJ coming up, only getting a low first rounder to eat up more money that can be used elsewhere is just not worth it. Especially for Evan Turner, we already have a logjam at guard.

[DusterBuster]

we'll take your 2018 1st and any mix of expiring contracts that can make salaries match. no long term salary. Evan Turner is not someone who fits into our scheme.

Why are the Nets opposed to taking on salary at the moment? Most national talking heads seem to believe the Nets would be open to taking on some salary for picks a la Hinkie-Sixers. Curious why Net fans think different.

Because if we take on any more we'd be over the cap, and with the extensions of Dlo and RHJ coming up, only getting a low first rounder to eat up more money that can be used elsewhere is just not worth it. Especially for Evan Turner, we already have a logjam at guard.

Turner can play SF as well, but I get your point and didn't realize the Nets salary was as high as it was. Forgot they got Mozgov from the Lakers.

One word of caution to the Nets, be careful with those Russell and RHJ contracts. Those guys are good players, but if someone comes throwing huge huge huge money at them, they should really ask themselves if they're worth that kind of investment because a lot of teams (Miami as well as Portland) invest in "good" young talent at "great" talent prices and it's bit them in the butt every time.

[shakendfries]

One word of caution to the Nets, be careful with those Russell and RHJ contracts. Those guys are good players, but if someone comes throwing huge huge huge money at them, they should really ask themselves if they're worth that kind of investment because a lot of teams (Miami as well as Portland) invest in "good" young talent at "great" talent prices and it's bit them in the butt every time.

Ah yes, if money becomes an issue I believe our plan is to trade Allen Crabbe so Caris LeVert can cook

[MGrand15]

Evan Turner is the worst. Wouldn't take him on the team for free. Yuck.

[Mosdefinition]

Evan Turner?!?!

Did billy King hack someone's account suggesting that

[Ror1997]

The Kings are shopping Skal Labissiere.

Cheap.

To me, he looks like RHJ. Just hitting everything near the rim/mid range and not really going for 3's. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

[IceManBK1]

how about this trade...okafor+caroll for lavine and mirotic. it's a pretty fair trade. salary about the same. okafor gets to return home and chicago gets savy veteran in carroll. while we get more athletic at sg and more size at pf and stretch 4 in mirotic.
dlo
lavine
rhj
mirotic
allen

one can dream right:D

[rzzzzz]

if NO is looking to salvage their season, maybe the Nets can interest them in a young big?

[IceManBK1]

if NO is looking to salvage their season, maybe the Nets can interest them in a young big?

if they go on a losing streak and drop outta the playoff seeding maybe they'll finally want to move AD and rebuild. we have alot of nice young talent to offer them. Dlo and AD would help bring the Nets back to the playoffs.