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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#201 » by Roy Tarpley » Thu Feb 1, 2018 2:56 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Not to rain on the positivity but man, we easily have the worst crowd in the league. Trevor Booker can't even get some applause when he checks in? Idk maybe I missed something.

It was nice to see how much love Philly showed Okafor after the game. It wasn't like a courtesy dap. It was hugs and smiles all around. They were really chopping it up. Okafor seems strangely popular around the league with players :lol:


The lack of Booker respect was one thing. the fact that a Ben Simmons reverse dunk got the loudest pop of the night once again
shows why I really never want to go to Barclays center again. The Nets don't have a homecourt. none.

I hate to say it but I don't ever really see Brooklyn becoming a basketball hub, unless they draft a true superstar player. Casual fans don't care much for the Nets and just want to see which stars show up to town. Just a sucky reality.


It's not just Brooklyn. Many big cities are like this. The masses want a star, and they want a winner. When the Nets are a perennial playoff team in 3 years, we can say that we were present at the creation.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#202 » by steady » Thu Feb 1, 2018 3:03 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Not to rain on the positivity but man, we easily have the worst crowd in the league. Trevor Booker can't even get some applause when he checks in? Idk maybe I missed something.

It was nice to see how much love Philly showed Okafor after the game. It wasn't like a courtesy dap. It was hugs and smiles all around. They were really chopping it up. Okafor seems strangely popular around the league with players :lol:


The lack of Booker respect was one thing. the fact that a Ben Simmons reverse dunk got the loudest pop of the night once again
shows why I really never want to go to Barclays center again. The Nets don't have a homecourt. none.

I hate to say it but I don't ever really see Brooklyn becoming a basketball hub, unless they draft a true superstar player. Casual fans don't care much for the Nets and just want to see which stars show up to town. Just a sucky reality.


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Good FAs will come. The question really is how will Marks make the difficult decisions to treat some of players as assets (as he has to do) without changing team culture

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GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#203 » by Paradise » Thu Feb 1, 2018 3:40 pm

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Keith Van Horn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The lack of Booker respect was one thing. the fact that a Ben Simmons reverse dunk got the loudest pop of the night once again
shows why I really never want to go to Barclays center again. The Nets don't have a homecourt. none.

I hate to say it but I don't ever really see Brooklyn becoming a basketball hub, unless they draft a true superstar player. Casual fans don't care much for the Nets and just want to see which stars show up to town. Just a sucky reality.


It's not just Brooklyn. Many big cities are like this. The masses want a star, and they want a winner. When the Nets are a perennial playoff team in 3 years, we can say that we were present at the creation.

Every radio station talks about our pick more than our team. How does anyone expect to build a stable fan base in the midst of a rebuild? The problems were having is the same exact reason why the Knicks wanted Melo in 2011 over keeping Gallo, Moz, Chandler and Pistons went for Griffin this week over T. Harris. Real stars create buzz. Russell isn’t that good yet and his name comes up as a bust by the talking heads that make the buzz happen.

Y’all forgot those days when Nets fans were coming in droves to Philadelphia to cheer for that 2012 team that included Brook, Deron, JJ.

Let’s win 50 games first. Maybe let’s have a winning season without unlikeable “stars” like that 49 win team and then, let’s see where our fan base is within that period of time. Even 2K has us ranked 28th. Therefore, no kids or casual fans is going to use our team even in a video game unless they love Russell.

Some folks need to realize this is why it’s considered a long rebuild.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#204 » by JiggaMan06 » Thu Feb 1, 2018 4:13 pm

Allen Crabbe missing those wide open jumpers last night almost hurt us. Luckily Embiid went cold from 3 late in the game. Hopefully some GM saw that Acy block and called Marks up that moment to make a solid offer.I love the game of Jarrett "Soul Glo" Allen. Also Big game for Jahlil.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#205 » by kamaze » Thu Feb 1, 2018 4:20 pm

I like the way this team is going they remind me of Boston last year that had a deep team and went to the ECF. Brooklyn has 10 players that scored 20 points this season, 10!

A so called "star" is a 20 point scorer no? Brooklyn has a bunch of players capable of going off on any night that's what makes them special. Even 3 years down the line expect them to keep the team philosophy where everybody plays hard.

All they need is for the owner (and fans) to remain patient and open his wallet to keep this regime and this will be a great team.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#206 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Feb 1, 2018 4:58 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:
Keith Van Horn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The lack of Booker respect was one thing. the fact that a Ben Simmons reverse dunk got the loudest pop of the night once again
shows why I really never want to go to Barclays center again. The Nets don't have a homecourt. none.

I hate to say it but I don't ever really see Brooklyn becoming a basketball hub, unless they draft a true superstar player. Casual fans don't care much for the Nets and just want to see which stars show up to town. Just a sucky reality.


It's not just Brooklyn. Many big cities are like this. The masses want a star, and they want a winner. When the Nets are a perennial playoff team in 3 years, we can say that we were present at the creation.


THIS. I feel like guys on this board don't watch games across the league. I see all the time the away team getting loud cheers at arenas where the home team has a losing record.

For example, look at when Curry was crazy hot in the 4th vs the Mavs. He was getting louder cheers than anyone else. This is in Dallas, a solid franchise with Dirk still playing.

When we start winning again, more casuals will come out to games and stop away fans from buying up all the tix. Only the Lakers and the Celtics are really immune from this.(not even the Knicks)
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#207 » by 13th Man » Thu Feb 1, 2018 5:12 pm

kamaze wrote:I like the way this team is going they remind me of Boston last year that had a deep team and went to the ECF. Brooklyn has 10 players that scored 20 points this season, 10!

A so called "star" is a 20 point scorer no? Brooklyn has a bunch of players capable of going off on any night that's what makes them special. Even 3 years down the line expect them to keep the team philosophy where everybody plays hard.

All they need is for the owner (and fans) to remain patient and open his wallet to keep this regime and this will be a great team.


Have to disagree, Boston have several star players and are capable of going very far, the Nets have none. The Nets strength come from the fact that the depth is is evenly distributed across the rotation and when everybody is healthy, our bench usually outperforms the other bench. The ceiling for the Nets isn't very high, possibly squeaking into the playoff next year.

The Nets are getting respect from around the league as a scrappy team that can hang on and give other good teams fits, but nobody sees the Nets as a legitmate threat to go far. The 2019 pick will be important imo, the Nets will need to pick up a good young prospect. Offloading bad contracts as well so that they can afford big name players, that's if they even want to come here.
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Post#208 » by LKIRNets » Thu Feb 1, 2018 6:40 pm

Watching the contrast of how we played the Knicks and this team. A few things stands out.

- Jarrett Allen was more prepared.

- James Webb III is becoming someone that players are noticing disrupts offensive sets, refs picked on him a few times.

- DLo and Dinwiddie were better than any guard on the floor.

- There wasn't off the handoff wide open 3's and lay ups like that Knicks game.

- Nik Stauskus and Jahlil Okafor gave a full effort on defense. Stauskus is starting to become a good defender, maybe Joe Harris' influence?

The undoing of the Sixers came when they had no legs keeping up wit 2nd chance opportunities and finishing defensive possessions.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#209 » by Keith Van Horn » Thu Feb 1, 2018 7:00 pm

LKIRNets wrote:Watching the contrast of how we played the Knicks and this team. A few things stands out.

- Jarrett Allen was more prepared.

- James Webb III is becoming someone that players are noticing disrupts offensive sets, refs picked on him a few times.

- DLo and Dinwiddie were better than any guard on the floor.

- There wasn't off the handoff wide open 3's and lay ups like that Knicks game.

- Nik Stauskus and Jahlil Okafor gave a full effort on defense. Stauskus is starting to become a good defender, maybe Joe Harris' influence?

The undoing of the Sixers came when they had no legs keeping up wit 2nd chance opportunities and finishing defensive possessions.

I think Simmons was feasting on Dinwiddie when he was guarding him though. Not to say that Din had a bad game by any stretch, but just that Simmons was having a fantastic game too.

And it was night and day between the Knicks game and this one. Way more prepared it seemed. Maybe just being back in their home arena... but glad we got the win and broke the streak of losing to Atlantic teams.
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Post#210 » by LKIRNets » Thu Feb 1, 2018 7:18 pm

Keith Van Horn wrote:
LKIRNets wrote:Watching the contrast of how we played the Knicks and this team. A few things stands out.

- Jarrett Allen was more prepared.

- James Webb III is becoming someone that players are noticing disrupts offensive sets, refs picked on him a few times.

- DLo and Dinwiddie were better than any guard on the floor.

- There wasn't off the handoff wide open 3's and lay ups like that Knicks game.

- Nik Stauskus and Jahlil Okafor gave a full effort on defense. Stauskus is starting to become a good defender, maybe Joe Harris' influence?

The undoing of the Sixers came when they had no legs keeping up wit 2nd chance opportunities and finishing defensive possessions.

I think Simmons was feasting on Dinwiddie when he was guarding him though. Not to say that Din had a bad game by any stretch, but just that Simmons was having a fantastic game too.

And it was night and day between the Knicks game and this one. Way more prepared it seemed. Maybe just being back in their home arena... but glad we got the win and broke the streak of losing to Atlantic teams.

Simmons is a physical mismatch in the post. But Dinwiddie did a good job on him. He kept Simmons in one area, the post. And later on in the game when the Sixers went 4 mins and 05 secs+ of scoreless 4th quarter ball. Simmons was nowhere to be found. B/c those post options now become tougher % shots and one play Allen Crabbe made sure Simmons thought twice about driving recklessly to the rim.

We just were better prepared. They got up for this one.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#211 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:08 pm

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Roy Tarpley wrote:
Keith Van Horn wrote:I hate to say it but I don't ever really see Brooklyn becoming a basketball hub, unless they draft a true superstar player. Casual fans don't care much for the Nets and just want to see which stars show up to town. Just a sucky reality.


It's not just Brooklyn. Many big cities are like this. The masses want a star, and they want a winner. When the Nets are a perennial playoff team in 3 years, we can say that we were present at the creation.

Every radio station talks about our pick more than our team. How does anyone expect to build a stable fan base in the midst of a rebuild? The problems were having is the same exact reason why the Knicks wanted Melo in 2011 over keeping Gallo, Moz, Chandler and Pistons went for Griffin this week over T. Harris. Real stars create buzz. Russell isn’t that good yet and his name comes up as a bust by the talking heads that make the buzz happen.

Y’all forgot those days when Nets fans were coming in droves to Philadelphia to cheer for that 2012 team that included Brook, Deron, JJ.

Let’s win 50 games first. Maybe let’s have a winning season without unlikeable “stars” like that 49 win team and then, let’s see where our fan base is within that period of time. Even 2K has us ranked 28th. Therefore, no kids or casual fans is going to use our team even in a video game unless they love Russell.

Some folks need to realize this is why it’s considered a long rebuild.



Yep. Patience. when this team starts rattling off 46+ win season a few years in a row things will change real quick.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#212 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:11 pm

LKIRNets wrote:Watching the contrast of how we played the Knicks and this team. A few things stands out.

- Jarrett Allen was more prepared.

- James Webb III is becoming someone that players are noticing disrupts offensive sets, refs picked on him a few times.

- DLo and Dinwiddie were better than any guard on the floor.

- There wasn't off the handoff wide open 3's and lay ups like that Knicks game.

- Nik Stauskus and Jahlil Okafor gave a full effort on defense. Stauskus is starting to become a good defender, maybe Joe Harris' influence?

The undoing of the Sixers came when they had no legs keeping up wit 2nd chance opportunities and finishing defensive possessions.


Webb is an intriguing player. I want to see him knock down some bombs but he is real pesky on D and looks like he can switch between the wing and stretch 4. maybe RHJ being out for a bit is a blessing in disguise if this guy can get it going and become another d league steal.
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#213 » by LKIRNets » Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:16 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
LKIRNets wrote:Watching the contrast of how we played the Knicks and this team. A few things stands out.

- Jarrett Allen was more prepared.

- James Webb III is becoming someone that players are noticing disrupts offensive sets, refs picked on him a few times.

- DLo and Dinwiddie were better than any guard on the floor.

- There wasn't off the handoff wide open 3's and lay ups like that Knicks game.

- Nik Stauskus and Jahlil Okafor gave a full effort on defense. Stauskus is starting to become a good defender, maybe Joe Harris' influence?

The undoing of the Sixers came when they had no legs keeping up wit 2nd chance opportunities and finishing defensive possessions.


Webb is an intriguing player. I want to see him knock down some bombs but he is real pesky on D and looks like he can switch between the wing and stretch 4. maybe RHJ being out for a bit is a blessing in disguise if this guy can get it going and become another d league steal.


I want to see what he does against Ingram and Kuzma. I want his 3's to fall b/c I'm telling you when he gets going. I've compared him to a poor man's Draymond, but he has a better stroke.
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Post#214 » by Revived » Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:42 pm

Is RHJ out till after the AS break?
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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#215 » by MGrand15 » Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:48 pm

Keith Van Horn wrote:I think Simmons was feasting on Dinwiddie when he was guarding him though. Not to say that Din had a bad game by any stretch, but just that Simmons was having a fantastic game too.

And it was night and day between the Knicks game and this one. Way more prepared it seemed. Maybe just being back in their home arena... but glad we got the win and broke the streak of losing to Atlantic teams.


Dinwiddie getting roasted was really on Atkinson. I kinda get not wanting to make huge adjustments from the jump but no PG is guarding Ben in the post. Especially surrounded by 4 shooters. Philly has Redick and Covington that make it easy to switch that matchup. Poor strategy.

He still played really well with Carroll on him but at least he had to work for it.
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Post#216 » by Paradise » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:40 am

Revived wrote:Is RHJ out till after the AS break?

He’s likely out two more games. It’s not really serious but groin injuries can be tricky.
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Post#217 » by kamaze » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:14 am

LKIRNets wrote:
Keith Van Horn wrote:
LKIRNets wrote:Watching the contrast of how we played the Knicks and this team. A few things stands out.

- Jarrett Allen was more prepared.

- James Webb III is becoming someone that players are noticing disrupts offensive sets, refs picked on him a few times.

- DLo and Dinwiddie were better than any guard on the floor.

- There wasn't off the handoff wide open 3's and lay ups like that Knicks game.

- Nik Stauskus and Jahlil Okafor gave a full effort on defense. Stauskus is starting to become a good defender, maybe Joe Harris' influence?

The undoing of the Sixers came when they had no legs keeping up wit 2nd chance opportunities and finishing defensive possessions.

I think Simmons was feasting on Dinwiddie when he was guarding him though. Not to say that Din had a bad game by any stretch, but just that Simmons was having a fantastic game too.

And it was night and day between the Knicks game and this one. Way more prepared it seemed. Maybe just being back in their home arena... but glad we got the win and broke the streak of losing to Atlantic teams.

Simmons is a physical mismatch in the post. But Dinwiddie did a good job on him. He kept Simmons in one area, the post. And later on in the game when the Sixers went 4 mins and 05 secs+ of scoreless 4th quarter ball. Simmons was nowhere to be found. B/c those post options now become tougher % shots and one play Allen Crabbe made sure Simmons thought twice about driving recklessly to the rim.

We just were better prepared. They got up for this one.


Brooklyn kept switching defenders on him one trip it was Acy, the next Dinwiddie, I believe Webb got to guard him too. Midway through the 3rd he looked a little tired, still a tremendous player our boys were focused after the night before's performance I'm sure watching game tape was a good time lol remember Crabbe saying he was tired of being pointed out in film and stepped up his defense.
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Post#218 » by kamaze » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:18 am

MGrand15 wrote:
Keith Van Horn wrote:I think Simmons was feasting on Dinwiddie when he was guarding him though. Not to say that Din had a bad game by any stretch, but just that Simmons was having a fantastic game too.

And it was night and day between the Knicks game and this one. Way more prepared it seemed. Maybe just being back in their home arena... but glad we got the win and broke the streak of losing to Atlantic teams.


Dinwiddie getting roasted was really on Atkinson. I kinda get not wanting to make huge adjustments from the jump but no PG is guarding Ben in the post. Especially surrounded by 4 shooters. Philly has Redick and Covington that make it easy to switch that matchup. Poor strategy.

He still played really well with Carroll on him but at least he had to work for it.


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Re: GT: 76ers (24-23) vs Brooklyn Nets (18-33) - Wednesday, 01/31/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#219 » by Yit » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:13 pm

Tracking Players performance vs 76ers 31 Jan 2018

DAR - 45 (+++)
Allen - 41 (++)
Dinwiddie - 34 (+)
DMC - 23 (=)
Crabbe - 21 (=)
Okafor - 18 (=)
Stauskas - 12 (=)
Acy - 11 (-)
Harris - 11 (=)
Zeller 5 (-)
Webb - 2 (-)

Nice win after that string of losses, good to see Allen maintaining it, hopefully DAR is getting back to his normal self.
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