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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1881 » by emunney » Fri Feb 2, 2018 12:03 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:newsflash

NOBODY wants DJ Wilson.
NOBODY wants Mirza Teletovic's contract (which is only valuable o the Bucks at this point)

adding either of these two in trades, unless it's for someone else's trash, is just not happening


You are new around these parts. We've seen things happen in trades that people had proclaimed couldn't happen. John Salmons getting dealt for positive value. Plumlee going for basically expiring contracts. RJ going to the Spurs for cap relief and slight positive value.

Find the right team. That's the key.


when Miles Plumlee gets traded

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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1882 » by LuessiT » Fri Feb 2, 2018 12:54 am

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Monk has about as much value as Wilson right now. He’s been pretty awful, and from reports it doesn’t seem like he has much work ethic/effort. He was out of their lineup completely for a while.


Nah he doesn't. He's still a 19y/o former 11th pick who has seen the NBA court vs. a 21y/o 17th pick who hasn't. And Monk's work ethic is just fine. I've got no idea where you picked that **** up.


Monk literally was pulled from the lineup for showing no effort on defense. When asked about it his excuse was the game is fast and veteran players know where to be. So yeah, not exactly a gym rat.

So far Monk has shown he is the exact player his detractors said he would be, and now half of his team’s front office thinks he is a bust. He is the Hornets Rashad Vaughn. Did Vaughn have more value than Wilson his rookie year as well? No. Nonsense to believe he’d fetch anything more.


And Larry Drew told Giannis he wasn't working hard enough. Monk is bad at defense. He's undersized @ 6'2/6'3, is under 200 lbs and was already a bad defender in college (not only due to his physical limitations). Him struggling to defend NBA wings isn't anything special. He probably will never be a plus defender, but the best way to hide him is playing him at a position where he isn't physically outmatched. Btw, what you are mentioning as his 'excuse' is actually a quote from him unrelated to the issue BEFORE the season started (10-05):

Monk says the biggest challenge so far has been the speed of the game, playing defense – as in split-second decisions.

“The speed of the game and everybody is smarter; they know where the open spots are because they’ve been playing a lot longer” than him, Monk said.

Monk has also been figuring out his best scoring opportunities against NBA defenses.


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article177315366.html

Monk is bad at defense and for that reason was pulled from the rotation. But it's not because he doesn't try. Yes, Monk is supposed to be a gym-rat. When coming out of HS, his jumper was one of his major weaknesses. He's worked on it relentlessly and made it his major calling card. That he's also an elite athlete both in terms of speed and verticallity is now just a side benefit.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1883 » by Wisky4life » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:15 am

Bucks: Favors
Jazz: Snell and Wilson

Bucks: Dedmon
Hawks: Maker and Vaughn

Or the classic

Bucks: Dedmon and Bellinelli
Hawks: Maker, Wilson and a crap salary
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1884 » by StickeeFingaz » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:17 am

So now Tyreke would look really nice if Brogdon is out for an extended period of time. I just don't think we make a reasonable deal with Memphis.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1885 » by Fotis St » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:18 am

Snell, Brogdon, Delly, Vaughn for George Hill, Frank Mason III, Koufos
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1886 » by DrWood » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:45 am

JUST SIGN MONROE!
He's been bought out by the suns, can't cost much to sign him. ECF here we come.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1887 » by BroncoBuck » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:49 am

LuessiT wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
Nah he doesn't. He's still a 19y/o former 11th pick who has seen the NBA court vs. a 21y/o 17th pick who hasn't. And Monk's work ethic is just fine. I've got no idea where you picked that **** up.


Monk literally was pulled from the lineup for showing no effort on defense. When asked about it his excuse was the game is fast and veteran players know where to be. So yeah, not exactly a gym rat.

So far Monk has shown he is the exact player his detractors said he would be, and now half of his team’s front office thinks he is a bust. He is the Hornets Rashad Vaughn. Did Vaughn have more value than Wilson his rookie year as well? No. Nonsense to believe he’d fetch anything more.


And Larry Drew told Giannis he wasn't working hard enough. Monk is bad at defense. He's undersized @ 6'2/6'3, is under 200 lbs and was already a bad defender in college (not only due to his physical limitations). Him struggling to defend NBA wings isn't anything special. He probably will never be a plus defender, but the best way to hide him is playing him at a position where he isn't physically outmatched. Btw, what you are mentioning as his 'excuse' is actually a quote from him unrelated to the issue BEFORE the season started (10-05):

Monk says the biggest challenge so far has been the speed of the game, playing defense – as in split-second decisions.

“The speed of the game and everybody is smarter; they know where the open spots are because they’ve been playing a lot longer” than him, Monk said.

Monk has also been figuring out his best scoring opportunities against NBA defenses.


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article177315366.html

Monk is bad at defense and for that reason was pulled from the rotation. But it's not because he doesn't try. Yes, Monk is supposed to be a gym-rat. When coming out of HS, his jumper was one of his major weaknesses. He's worked on it relentlessly and made it his major calling card. That he's also an elite athlete both in terms of speed and verticallity is now just a side benefit.


His jumper is the only thing he has in the nba. He will never be a point guard with his handles and lack of overall awareness. He has had zero ability to create his shot in the NBA. I really struggle to believe he will be anything more than Jodie Meeks 2.0 and even that is a stretch. He doesn’t have a future as a starter. The talk in Charlotte is the Hornets were set on Mitchell, but panicked and took Monk after he “slipped” to them. If that’s the case then it really adds up why so many in the organization are ready to ship him out of town. Draft position really doesn’t mean squat once games have been played. Nik Stauskas can attest to that.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1888 » by DrWood » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:50 am

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Krispy Kreme wrote:I'd argue that Wilson probably has some value.

and i'd argue that Rashad probably has more

Rashad has zero value. He's only on the team in case we need his contract to balance out a trade. Any team that wants him can sign him next year.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1889 » by LuessiT » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:55 am

BroncoBuck wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
Monk literally was pulled from the lineup for showing no effort on defense. When asked about it his excuse was the game is fast and veteran players know where to be. So yeah, not exactly a gym rat.

So far Monk has shown he is the exact player his detractors said he would be, and now half of his team’s front office thinks he is a bust. He is the Hornets Rashad Vaughn. Did Vaughn have more value than Wilson his rookie year as well? No. Nonsense to believe he’d fetch anything more.


And Larry Drew told Giannis he wasn't working hard enough. Monk is bad at defense. He's undersized @ 6'2/6'3, is under 200 lbs and was already a bad defender in college (not only due to his physical limitations). Him struggling to defend NBA wings isn't anything special. He probably will never be a plus defender, but the best way to hide him is playing him at a position where he isn't physically outmatched. Btw, what you are mentioning as his 'excuse' is actually a quote from him unrelated to the issue BEFORE the season started (10-05):

Monk says the biggest challenge so far has been the speed of the game, playing defense – as in split-second decisions.

“The speed of the game and everybody is smarter; they know where the open spots are because they’ve been playing a lot longer” than him, Monk said.

Monk has also been figuring out his best scoring opportunities against NBA defenses.


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article177315366.html

Monk is bad at defense and for that reason was pulled from the rotation. But it's not because he doesn't try. Yes, Monk is supposed to be a gym-rat. When coming out of HS, his jumper was one of his major weaknesses. He's worked on it relentlessly and made it his major calling card. That he's also an elite athlete both in terms of speed and verticallity is now just a side benefit.


His jumper is the only thing he has in the nba. He will never be a point guard with his handles and lack of overall awareness. He has had zero ability to create his shot in the NBA. I really struggle to believe he will be anything more than Jodie Meeks 2.0 and even that is a stretch. He doesn’t have a future as a starter. The talk in Charlotte is the Hornets were set on Mitchell, but panicked and took Monk after he “slipped” to them. If that’s the case then it really adds up why so many in the organization are ready to ship him out of town. Draft position really doesn’t mean squat once games have been played. Nik Stauskas can attest to that.


I'm not saying he will become a point guard. His best chance of making it in the NBA as a starter is to land on a team that doesn't play through a traditional PG and instead could field an off-ball shooter there (wow, like the Bucks do, what a coincidence!).
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1890 » by LuessiT » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:56 am

DrWood wrote:JUST SIGN MONROE!
He's been bought out by the suns, can't cost much to sign him. ECF here we come.


We can't.
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Post#1891 » by Matches Malone » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:59 am

LuessiT wrote:
DrWood wrote:JUST SIGN MONROE!
He's been bought out by the suns, can't cost much to sign him. ECF here we come.


We can't.


What LuessiT said.
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1892 » by DrWood » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:02 am

LuessiT wrote:
DrWood wrote:JUST SIGN MONROE!
He's been bought out by the suns, can't cost much to sign him. ECF here we come.


We can't.

Really? You can't sign a guy you traded who was later waived?
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1893 » by Frank Nova » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:24 am

DrWood wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
DrWood wrote:JUST SIGN MONROE!
He's been bought out by the suns, can't cost much to sign him. ECF here we come.


We can't.

Really? You can't sign a guy you traded who was later waived?


Nope, you can not.
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Post#1894 » by SirChurros » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:27 am

LuessiT wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
And Larry Drew told Giannis he wasn't working hard enough. Monk is bad at defense. He's undersized @ 6'2/6'3, is under 200 lbs and was already a bad defender in college (not only due to his physical limitations). Him struggling to defend NBA wings isn't anything special. He probably will never be a plus defender, but the best way to hide him is playing him at a position where he isn't physically outmatched. Btw, what you are mentioning as his 'excuse' is actually a quote from him unrelated to the issue BEFORE the season started (10-05):



http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article177315366.html

Monk is bad at defense and for that reason was pulled from the rotation. But it's not because he doesn't try. Yes, Monk is supposed to be a gym-rat. When coming out of HS, his jumper was one of his major weaknesses. He's worked on it relentlessly and made it his major calling card. That he's also an elite athlete both in terms of speed and verticallity is now just a side benefit.


His jumper is the only thing he has in the nba. He will never be a point guard with his handles and lack of overall awareness. He has had zero ability to create his shot in the NBA. I really struggle to believe he will be anything more than Jodie Meeks 2.0 and even that is a stretch. He doesn’t have a future as a starter. The talk in Charlotte is the Hornets were set on Mitchell, but panicked and took Monk after he “slipped” to them. If that’s the case then it really adds up why so many in the organization are ready to ship him out of town. Draft position really doesn’t mean squat once games have been played. Nik Stauskas can attest to that.


I'm not saying he will become a point guard. His best chance of making it in the NBA as a starter is to land on a team that doesn't play through a traditional PG and instead could field an off-ball shooter there (wow, like the Bucks do, what a coincidence!).
Except, you know, that he's not that good of a shooter.
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Post#1895 » by LuessiT » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:53 am

Krispy Kreme wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
His jumper is the only thing he has in the nba. He will never be a point guard with his handles and lack of overall awareness. He has had zero ability to create his shot in the NBA. I really struggle to believe he will be anything more than Jodie Meeks 2.0 and even that is a stretch. He doesn’t have a future as a starter. The talk in Charlotte is the Hornets were set on Mitchell, but panicked and took Monk after he “slipped” to them. If that’s the case then it really adds up why so many in the organization are ready to ship him out of town. Draft position really doesn’t mean squat once games have been played. Nik Stauskas can attest to that.


I'm not saying he will become a point guard. His best chance of making it in the NBA as a starter is to land on a team that doesn't play through a traditional PG and instead could field an off-ball shooter there (wow, like the Bucks do, what a coincidence!).
Except, you know, that he's not that good of a shooter.


Well, there is the difference. I think he could be an elite shooter. Obviously opinions differ.
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Post#1896 » by Thunder Muscle » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:25 am

BJ3 could fill this void of PG injuries. #55Forever
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1897 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Feb 2, 2018 8:01 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6ve8wuu

Bucks: Tyreke Evans, JaMychal Green
Grizzles: Tony Snell, DJ Wilson, 2nd. If they want Thon instead of Wilson, give in instantly.
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Post#1898 » by blazza18 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 8:57 am

Absolute no brainer if you could move our last two first round picks for rotational players.

How sad is that?
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Post#1899 » by Gianstoppable » Fri Feb 2, 2018 1:06 pm

blazza18 wrote:Absolute no brainer if you could move our last two first round picks for rotational players.

How sad is that?


It sucks, hard. But I would bet quite a few teams have struggled with the last few drafts, not just us. At least our 2nd rounders have been good lately :dontknow:
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Re: Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018 

Post#1900 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:03 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:
DrWood wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
We can't.

Really? You can't sign a guy you traded who was later waived?


Nope, you can not.


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