Political Roundtable Part XVII

[nate33]

I’m sure you can provide primary documents that show Mccabes testimony and not just second hand information from Devin Nunes.

So you think Nunes put a blatantly false piece of information in the most scrutinized congressional memo of all time? And the entire Republican Congress, including plenty of Never Trumpers signed off on it even though the McCabe testimony will surely be released eventually? And you think I'm a conspiracy nut?

This is a critical piece of information, and because it doesn't fit your template, you're going to just ignore it? LOL

Nate, buddy, you're not good at this.

Nunes uses very specific wording. Here's what the memo actually said:

"no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information."

The Steele dossier information. Interesting, that appendage isn't it? I wonder why they wouldn't just say 'Steele dossier' there? Maybe it's because the information has been corroborated, and there are other additional sources dictating the FISA warrant application.

Nunes is being intentionally misleading here, and you're falling for it.

That's a heck of a leap to be making based on a questionable semantic interpretation. If the information was independent verified, then it would no longer be Steele dossier information. It would be "information".

[Ruzious]

Wait, so SD20 claims to be a former naval intelligence officer along with being a wildly successful dentist and realtor?

He also claims to be a former D1 two sport star, dates playboy models and is connected to the political elite in the Chicago area

thats all true too, asswhipe!!! except the "connected" part. I never claimed to be "connected." i claimed to be at Penny Pritzker's christmas party in 2008. Obama was there. as was rahm, Ernie, and many others. oh but wouldn't you love to be me!!! you lil whiny ass crybaby loser!!!!! lil biotch!!! thats right. we live in a world where if you were lucky enough to hang out, you'd be my lil biotch And, yes, my current girlfriend is a playboy model. I'm a dentist. Own multiple dental practice. develop real estate. own multiple income properties and its the 2nd. Rent checks are rolling in. deal with it biotch!!!

And... you even left out the part about being married to Morgan Fairchild... before you dumped her. And the 4.4 40 when you were 40.

[nate33]

I’m sure you can provide primary documents that show Mccabes testimony and not just second hand information from Devin Nunes.

So you think Nunes put a blatantly false piece of information in the most scrutinized congressional memo of all time? And the entire Republican Congress, including plenty of Never Trumpers signed off on it even though the McCabe testimony will surely be released eventually? And you think I'm a conspiracy nut?

This is a critical piece of information, and because it doesn't fit your template, you're going to just ignore it? LOL

Yes Nunes is not above lying. Many Republicans admitted that they haven’t even read the memo before it’s release and neither did Trump. Simple question that only requires a simple answer. Is the Steele dossier the only piece of information used to get the FISA warrant?

No. That's not the question. The question is, could a warrant have been obtained without relying on the Steele dossier as a source.

[stilldropin20]

This is insanely dumb. Just stop.

The dossier is not the only part of the FISA application for Carter Page. The rest of it wasn't released! That's why Nunes refers to it as 'an essential part' and not 'the only part' of the application.

And, again, the dossier has largely been corroborated, and very little of it has turned out to be incorrect.

You were tricked here because you're extremely biased and want things one way.

You have to believe that Nunes is blatantly lying about something that is sure to be verified sooner or later to believe that the FISA report didn't depend on the Dossier.

And please, illuminate me. What has been "largely corroborated" about the Dossier? Is there any corroboration of Trump's golden showers with Russian prostitutes? Is there any proof of multimillion dollar bribes? Do you really believe that Russia started a relationship with Trump in freaking 2011 because they predicted that he would one day run for President? Donald Trump, the reality show host, a President? LOL.

nate, as you know, these two posters are clowns. Post at the same time often with same agenda. You should do an IP check.

But I have been bringing this up for almost 10 months. They laughed at it then. And now continue to laugh at it eventhough, at this point, Congress has now put their name on it. This is significant. Congress' name is now on this memo/evidence. Our lawmakers, indeed the very body that writes our federal laws, put their name on this evidence.

Congress also has oversight of the entire executive branch has scolded the FBI in this particular memo/evidence. Congress is FORCED to act now. The american people will demand it. There will be severe consequences.

[montestewart]

wrap your tiny brain around this.

Like i said 4 months ago.

I've been telling you where it's headed for months. Like nine straight months.

I called it this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i wont about this over 8 months ago in these very pages

But I could have told you whats in it. In fact I did. 9 months ago. here. in these very pages.

Personally I'm predicting a dud but I've been all over this for almost a full year.

what Ive been telling all of you guys for 9 straight months almost 10.

I just solved all the problems in the United States right there in five sentences or less give me a goddamn Nobel Prize!!!

OK, you can't say with a straight face that this isn't hands. Maybe we need to get TGW and Sluggerface on this.

Will a smoking gun emerge?

We'll see

[montestewart]

yo fellas, stop with the moron and clown comments!

[Kanyewest]

- Since it is an extension, Page was already under surveillance prior to the items depicted in the memo since 2013
- It has been reported that Page was under FISA surveillance prior to Steele reporting his findings to the FBI and the dossier being written
- Page was already on radar of the law enforcement about being a Russian asset for a couple years
- Trump brought Page, a man that our government believed to be a Russian asset, into his campaign

[Pointgod]

So you think Nunes put a blatantly false piece of information in the most scrutinized congressional memo of all time? And the entire Republican Congress, including plenty of Never Trumpers signed off on it even though the McCabe testimony will surely be released eventually? And you think I'm a conspiracy nut?

This is a critical piece of information, and because it doesn't fit your template, you're going to just ignore it? LOL

Yes Nunes is not above lying. Many Republicans admitted that they haven’t even read the memo before it’s release and neither did Trump. Simple question that only requires a simple answer. Is the Steele dossier the only piece of information used to get the FISA warrant?

No. That's not the question. The question is, could a warrant have been obtained without relying on the Steele dossier as a source.

Even Nunes admits in the memo that the Steele dossier isn’t the only source or even the main source behind the memo. Your whole argument and that of Trump sychopants relies on the fact that the FISA application was built around the Steele dossier. The FBI has been tracking Carter Page since 2013, they have him on tape speaking to Russian spies who have since been arrested.

[gtn130]

This is insanely dumb. Just stop.

The dossier is not the only part of the FISA application for Carter Page. The rest of it wasn't released! That's why Nunes refers to it as 'an essential part' and not 'the only part' of the application.

And, again, the dossier has largely been corroborated, and very little of it has turned out to be incorrect.

You were tricked here because you're extremely biased and want things one way.

You have to believe that Nunes is blatantly lying about something that is sure to be verified sooner or later to believe that the FISA report didn't depend on the Dossier.

And please, illuminate me. What has been "largely corroborated" about the Dossier? Is there any corroboration of Trump's golden showers with Russian prostitutes? Is there any proof of multimillion dollar bribes? Do you really believe that Russia started a relationship with Trump in freaking 2011 because they predicted that he would one day run for President? Donald Trump, the reality show host, a President? LOL.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/09/a_lot_of_the_steele_dossier_has_since_been_corroborated.html

Pretty sure Slate was the source of one of your screeds about brain circumference of black people, so I assume you trust the veracity of Slate's reporting.

[stilldropin20]

yo fellas, stop with the moron and clown comments!

agree, but im only going to take so much personal attacks before i go back at 'em. And I dont mind playing dirty if that's what they want. This place is suppose to be fun and we should be entertaining each other. So long as they're insults are funny its all good in that regard. But like i said, i will go back at them from time to time.

But really they just want to distract from the contents of the memo. We know this.

[gtn130]

So you think Nunes put a blatantly false piece of information in the most scrutinized congressional memo of all time? And the entire Republican Congress, including plenty of Never Trumpers signed off on it even though the McCabe testimony will surely be released eventually? And you think I'm a conspiracy nut?

This is a critical piece of information, and because it doesn't fit your template, you're going to just ignore it? LOL

Nate, buddy, you're not good at this.

Nunes uses very specific wording. Here's what the memo actually said:

"no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information."

The Steele dossier information. Interesting, that appendage isn't it? I wonder why they wouldn't just say 'Steele dossier' there? Maybe it's because the information has been corroborated, and there are other additional sources dictating the FISA warrant application.

Nunes is being intentionally misleading here, and you're falling for it.

That's a heck of a leap to be making based on a questionable semantic interpretation. If the information was independent verified, then it would no longer be Steele dossier information. It would be "information".

News to Nate:

The entire memo is semantic sleight of hand

[DCZards]

nate, as you know, these two posters are clowns. Post at the same time often with same agenda. You should do an IP check.

But I have been bringing this up for almost 10 months. They laughed at it then. And now continue to laugh at it eventhough, at this point, Congress has now put their name on it. This is significant. Congress' name is now on this memo/evidence. Our lawmakers, indeed the very body that writes our federal laws, put their name on this evidence.

Congress also has oversight of the entire executive branch has scolded the FBI in this particular memo/evidence. Congress is FORCED to act now. The american people will demand it. There will be severe consequences.

Correction. "Congress" has not put it's name on the memo and the info in it. A handful of members of Congress, all of them Republicans, have "put their name" on this memo. So don't get it twisted.

There are even some Repubs who are opposed to the memo, it's release and the way it cherry picks information to discredit the FBI and the Russian investigation. In fairness, shouldn't we wait until the release of the Dems response to the Nunes' memo (assuming that is allowed to happen) before we take this partisan memo as the gospel?

[stilldropin20]

wrap your tiny brain around this.

Like i said 4 months ago.

I've been telling you where it's headed for months. Like nine straight months.

I called it this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i wont about this over 8 months ago in these very pages

But I could have told you whats in it. In fact I did. 9 months ago. here. in these very pages.

Personally I'm predicting a dud but I've been all over this for almost a full year.

what Ive been telling all of you guys for 9 straight months almost 10.

I just solved all the problems in the United States right there in five sentences or less give me a goddamn Nobel Prize!!!

OK, you can't say with a straight face that this isn't hands. Maybe we need to get TGW and Sluggerface on this.

Will a smoking gun emerge?

We'll see

well almost 11 straight months at this point.

[stilldropin20]

nate, as you know, these two posters are clowns. Post at the same time often with same agenda. You should do an IP check.

But I have been bringing this up for almost 10 months. They laughed at it then. And now continue to laugh at it eventhough, at this point, Congress has now put their name on it. This is significant. Congress' name is now on this memo/evidence. Our lawmakers, indeed the very body that writes our federal laws, put their name on this evidence.

Congress also has oversight of the entire executive branch has scolded the FBI in this particular memo/evidence. Congress is FORCED to act now. The american people will demand it. There will be severe consequences.

Correction. "Congress" has not put it's name on the memo and the info in it. A handful of members of Congress, all of them Republicans, have "put their name" on this memo. So don't get it twisted.

There are even some Repubs who are opposed to the memo, it's release and the way it cherry picks information to discredit the FBI and the Russian investigation. In fairness, shouldn't we wait until the release of the Dems response to the Nunes' memo (assuming that is allowed to happen) before we take this partisan memo as the gospel?

a handful?? really??

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[Kanyewest]

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[Wizardspride]

Ok. So in the interest of getting this on the record: The SOLE source of the FISA warrant was the Steele dossier?

[stilldropin20]

Read on Twitter

sounds like words from a future attorney general.

[closg00]

- Since it is an extension, Page was already under surveillance prior to the items depicted in the memo since 2013
- It has been reported that Page was under FISA surveillance prior to Steele reporting his findings to the FBI and the dossier being written
- Page was already on radar of the law enforcement about being a Russian asset for a couple years
- Trump brought Page, a man that our government believed to be a Russian asset, into his campaign

OMG, you have to listened to C-Span or conservative talk radio? The people who call/comment are brainwashed zombies who know very little about the underlying facts. Trump and his backers understand this very well, “the base” is lapping this up without knowing what they are eating.

[Kanyewest]

Ok. So in the interest of getting this on the record: The SOLE source of the FISA warrant was the Steele dossier?

I find it hard to believe since the investigation has been going since 2013 and require 90 day extensions. The Steele dossier only came in 2016.

[stilldropin20]

Ok. So in the interest of getting this on the record: The SOLE source of the FISA warrant was the Steele dossier?

it is looking more and more like this is the case. and quoting Mccabe, (under oath) "without the "dossier, there would be no FISA warrant"

also, nothing in this memo damages our national security. So why were Comey, Wren, All democrats, et al. pushing that false narrative for the past week???? Why prevent the release of the memo??? And hide behind national security???