Mohamed Bamba

[thr3ep01nte4]

I disagree, his potential offensively hasn't really came into fruition, he's clearly beyond Capela and Jordan offensively at the same age. Capela could barely score and Jordan was a terrible scorer at Texas A&M. Bamba isn't good offensively but the sky is the limit. He would be much better in space which is not available in the NCAA.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1/22/16917558/texas-mohamed-bamba-2018-nba-draft

[The-Power]

I disagree, his potential offensively hasn't really came into fruition, he's clearly beyond Capela and Jordan offensively at the same age. Capela could barely score and Jordan was a terrible scorer at Texas A&M. Bamba isn't good offensively but the sky is the limit. He would be much better in space which is not available in the NCAA.

Adjusted for minutes Jordan scored as much as Bamba with higher efficiency. If he was a ‘terrible scorer‘ then so is Bamba. I also can't really see how ‘sky is the limit‘ for someone who we both agree isn't good offensively. When did one player ever improve so dramatically on offense that this statement would even be remotely realistic?

[King Ken]

I disagree, his potential offensively hasn't really came into fruition, he's clearly beyond Capela and Jordan offensively at the same age. Capela could barely score and Jordan was a terrible scorer at Texas A&M. Bamba isn't good offensively but the sky is the limit. He would be much better in space which is not available in the NCAA.

Adjusted for minutes Jordan scored as much as Bamba with higher efficiency. If he was a ‘terrible scorer‘ then so is Bamba. I also can't really see how ‘sky is the limit‘ for someone who we both agree isn't good offensively. When did one player ever improve so dramatically on offense that this statement would even be remotely realistic?

DeAndre didn't play much for a reason. His BBIQ was terrible. All he could do was dunk. He had no range. No skill-set. Bamba has a skill-set. There is a lot he can do. He is simply raw. There is a difference between can't do and can develop into which is what Bamba is.

[clyde21]

Some of you guys are underratinf the heck out of Bamba.

[thr3ep01nte4]

Some of you guys are underratinf the heck out of Bamba.

Bamba for me is easily top 5. But him being the No.1 pick is a stretch. I do see why people like him. However, there are some people who are down on him, namely Sam Vecenie etc. He's quite divisive.

[doordoor123]

Some of you guys are underratinf the heck out of Bamba.

For sure. I think the big issue in this draft is that a lot of these top guys are good so we keep trying to find issues with them. I’ve come to accept them for their issues, but also acknowledge all the good things they do. This draft might also be one of the best big man draft ever.

[CP War Hawks]

Kinda bugged me I couldn't remember his perfect NBA comp and then I recounted Whiteside's combine #s.

Wgt: 227 Wing: 7-7 Stand: 9-5 Bodyfat: 5.5

Whiteside has gained tremendous weight during his time in Miami...........
If Bamba avoids Miami, I see his physique progressing like KG did during his career.

[King Ken]

Kinda bugged me I couldn't remember his perfect NBA comp and then I recounted Whiteside's combine #s.

Wgt: 227 Wing: 7-7 Stand: 9-5 Bodyfat: 5.5

Whiteside has gained tremendous weight during his time in Miami...........
If Bamba avoids Miami, I see his physique progressing like KG did during his career.

He has more broad shoulders than KG. But Whiteside has that NFL gene pool. Bamba has wide shoulders but Idk if he can put on the muscle Whiteside has put on.

[thr3ep01nte4]

Have to say that Bamba has really made progress during the past two weeks. He basically plays like a poor man’s Anthony Davis now.

[FNQ]

Dropped out of a couple of top 5s lately #asexpected

Teams are going to prioritize #1 scoring options over defense-based Cs with raw offensive ability. He'll do himself a lot of favors if he continues improving that 3-ball going into the tournament, though. Caught the Tech game and comapred to the KU game (last one I saw of him), he looked much better offensively despite the vast numerical difference. He didnt seem lost nearly as much.

I think he'll ultimately, conclusively pass JJ Jr. and be locked in as top 6, but I cant see him breaking into the top 3 of Doncic/Bagley/Ayton, unless he has some massive breakout. Have him staunchly in tier 2 with team need being the deciding factor in where he goes 4-6

[doordoor123]

Dropped out of a couple of top 5s lately #asexpected

Teams are going to prioritize #1 scoring options over defense-based Cs with raw offensive ability. He'll do himself a lot of favors if he continues improving that 3-ball going into the tournament, though. Caught the Tech game and comapred to the KU game (last one I saw of him), he looked much better offensively despite the vast numerical difference. He didnt seem lost nearly as much.

I think he'll ultimately, conclusively pass JJ Jr. and be locked in as top 6, but I cant see him breaking into the top 3 of Doncic/Bagley/Ayton, unless he has some massive breakout. Have him staunchly in tier 2 with team need being the deciding factor in where he goes 4-6

I dropped them both. I like to take risks. Jaren Jackson I don’t have till 10. I love him and think he can be really good, but he fouls a lot and doesn’t have much of an offensive game. He needs to learn the game and gain weight. He’s a project for me. Bamba has little more because of his length, but he has the same issues. I have him 8.
Between them I have Collin Sexton. I just think his creation ability and his physical attributes as a point guard sets him apart and makes him a threat to become an all-star type player.
Before Bamba I have Miles Bridges and Wendell Carter. I just think their ability on offense and their upside on offense is more valuable than the interior defense of the other two.

[The-Power]

I dropped them both. I like to take risks. Jaren Jackson I don’t have till 10. I love him and think he can be really good, but he fouls a lot and doesn’t have much of an offensive game. He needs to learn the game and gain weight.

I don't think that claim can be substantiated by either the numbers nor the footage of him. For his age Jackson is actually pretty advanced offensively for a big man – certainly for one who projects to be an elite defensive prospect. He's also already pretty strong physically for his age, just doesn't always know how and when to use his body properly.

[doordoor123]

I dropped them both. I like to take risks. Jaren Jackson I don’t have till 10. I love him and think he can be really good, but he fouls a lot and doesn’t have much of an offensive game. He needs to learn the game and gain weight.

I don't think that claim can be substantiated by either the numbers nor the footage of him. For his age Jackson is actually pretty advanced offensively for a big man – certainly for one who projects to be an elite defensive prospect. He's also already pretty strong physically for his age, just doesn't always know how and when to use his body properly.

In the ability to create his own shot? I don’t think so. Yes, he’s a good three point shooter, can dribble on the fast break, and has solid timing in the P&R, but he’s not a good screen setter yet, it’s going to be hard for him to finish the same way in the NBA (example: Willie Cauley-Stein), he doesn’t have a diverse post game and can’t overpower guys in the same way in the NBA, etc. Hes a good shooter, but he needs to develop the rest of his game. He needs diversity. Dayonta Davis was also had similar issues coming out of college and as of now had a similar profile (except Davis is shorter and is shooting less threes).
Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s going to be really good in time, but I don’t have faith in his offense translating as much as I do other players. Players who are better passers and can create for themselves/more advanced at that age are better prospects. I would rather have a player that can get a last second bucket or pass and make the team better by getting other players buckets.

[Ruzious]

Bomba's last 3 games: 19 of 23 from the field, 19 of 21 from the line, 37 rebounds, 14 blocks, 2 turnovers. I can't see him going later than 7th in the draft.

[Ruzious]

Dropped out of a couple of top 5s lately #asexpected

Teams are going to prioritize #1 scoring options over defense-based Cs with raw offensive ability. He'll do himself a lot of favors if he continues improving that 3-ball going into the tournament, though. Caught the Tech game and comapred to the KU game (last one I saw of him), he looked much better offensively despite the vast numerical difference. He didnt seem lost nearly as much.

I think he'll ultimately, conclusively pass JJ Jr. and be locked in as top 6, but I cant see him breaking into the top 3 of Doncic/Bagley/Ayton, unless he has some massive breakout. Have him staunchly in tier 2 with team need being the deciding factor in where he goes 4-6

I dropped them both. I like to take risks. Jaren Jackson I don’t have till 10. I love him and think he can be really good, but he fouls a lot and doesn’t have much of an offensive game. He needs to learn the game and gain weight. He’s a project for me. Bamba has little more because of his length, but he has the same issues. I have him 8.
Between them I have Collin Sexton. I just think his creation ability and his physical attributes as a point guard sets him apart and makes him a threat to become an all-star type player.
Before Bamba I have Miles Bridges and Wendell Carter. I just think their ability on offense and their upside on offense is more valuable than the interior defense of the other two.

I give you credit for thinking different, but I think it would be a huge mistake to pick Sexton over JJJ. I do like Miles Bridges a lot - just not as highly as you have him. He's in a lower tier, imo. Carter's a bit of a wild card - ahead of Bridges but a little below Bamba's tier, but if Carter shows defensive improvements over what I expect, I might move him up.

[doordoor123]

Bomba's last 3 games: 19 of 23 from the field, 19 of 21 from the line, 37 rebounds, 14 blocks, 2 turnovers. I can't see him going later than 7th in the draft.

In the actual draft I agree, but long term I’m not sure. Where does he fit in the NBA? He gets fatigued, doesn’t have great timing, doesn’t finish well in traffic (no soft touch) and he doesn’t have a diverse game. I think he can be an effective player in the NBA, but worth a top 7 pick? That I’m not sure about. He certainly has the physical profile for it, but so did Hasheem Thabeet (not saying he will bust or anything like that though).

[doordoor123]

Dropped out of a couple of top 5s lately #asexpected

Teams are going to prioritize #1 scoring options over defense-based Cs with raw offensive ability. He'll do himself a lot of favors if he continues improving that 3-ball going into the tournament, though. Caught the Tech game and comapred to the KU game (last one I saw of him), he looked much better offensively despite the vast numerical difference. He didnt seem lost nearly as much.

I think he'll ultimately, conclusively pass JJ Jr. and be locked in as top 6, but I cant see him breaking into the top 3 of Doncic/Bagley/Ayton, unless he has some massive breakout. Have him staunchly in tier 2 with team need being the deciding factor in where he goes 4-6

I dropped them both. I like to take risks. Jaren Jackson I don’t have till 10. I love him and think he can be really good, but he fouls a lot and doesn’t have much of an offensive game. He needs to learn the game and gain weight. He’s a project for me. Bamba has little more because of his length, but he has the same issues. I have him 8.
Between them I have Collin Sexton. I just think his creation ability and his physical attributes as a point guard sets him apart and makes him a threat to become an all-star type player.
Before Bamba I have Miles Bridges and Wendell Carter. I just think their ability on offense and their upside on offense is more valuable than the interior defense of the other two.

I give you credit for thinking different, but I think it would be a huge mistake to pick Sexton over JJJ. I do like Miles Bridges a lot - just not as highly as you have him. He's in a lower tier, imo. Carter's a bit of a wild card - ahead of Bridges but a little below Bamba's tier, but if Carter shows defensive improvements over what I expect, I might move him up.

A lot of great players thrive in the Mid-range game and for a point guard it’s especially important to be able to shoot from there. He can make that shot consistently and when he gets to the basket he can finish with contact. While physically he might not have the profile of a De’Aaron Fox, but in terms of skills that translate, he has them. I also think more space is going to help him a lot. If he was a back up I think he would feast on his opponents, I just don’t see many back ups in the league that can handle him, even now as a 19 year old. Miles Bridges has advanced vision for his size, elite athleticism and he’s learning to shoot off the dribble. That stuff translates really well. I also think with him more space is going to help a lot. Offensively these guys are up there IMO.

I don’t think I’m underrating Bamba and Jackson, I think you guys are underrating players like Sexton and Bridges.

[sikma42]

Look at his length as a defender and then factor in he has the mobility to guard out on the perimeter. Defensive versatility is one of the most important things today and he provides that together with elite shot blocking. Add in his jumpshot and the ability to finish well above the rim and that is a top 5 pick and an all star for many years


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[doordoor123]

Look at his length as a defender and then factor in he has the mobility to guard out on the perimeter. Defensive versatility is one of the most important things today and he provides that together with elite shot blocking. Add in his jumpshot and the ability to finish well above the rim and that is a top 5 pick and an all star for many years


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In terms of value, yes it’s very valuable. Want to know what else is really valuable? The ability to make your teammates better, ability to get to the line, ability to finish with contact, the ability to force a basket when you need one and a perennial all-star.

[Ruzious]

Bomba's last 3 games: 19 of 23 from the field, 19 of 21 from the line, 37 rebounds, 14 blocks, 2 turnovers. I can't see him going later than 7th in the draft.

In the actual draft I agree, but long term I’m not sure. Where does he fit in the NBA? He gets fatigued, doesn’t have great timing, doesn’t finish well in traffic (no soft touch) and he doesn’t have a diverse game. I think he can be an effective player in the NBA, but worth a top 7 pick? That I’m not sure about. He certainly has the physical profile for it, but so did Hasheem Thabeet (not saying he will bust or anything like that though).

Thabeet was enormous, but he looked like a dinosaur running in mud in the NBA - not a good comp to Bamba, imo. I could see comparing Bamba to a bigger and stronger version of Noel - though he's got a better shooting touch than Nerlens.