2018 Trade Deadline Thread

[stinger14]

With Batum's increased effectiveness these last few games, I think we have to stick to the plan. See what this team is capable of rest of season. Blowing it up seems good, but I just question what type of value we'd receive right now. If somebody would overpay for Kemba, then I think we should make the play, but if it's an offer along the same lines of Detroit's, then I'm happy with treadmilling and watching this team crash and burn.

The problem with this strategy is that this team will fail on the court, and the organization will miss on the opportunity at tanking for a high pick in a draft that looks to have 8 potentially special talents. Missing the playoffs and picking at the backend of the lottery is the worst possible scenario

[stinger14]

I can understand that Hornets want to be as greedy as they can in a Kemba Walker deal.

But by this point, it should be fairly obvious that Hornets aren't going to get as much as they'd like from a Kemba trade. Cavs aren't giving up that BKN 1st. Other teams aren't parting with their young stars for Kemba. Add in the fact that Hornets are also trying to dump some salary in a Kemba trade, it's just too big of an ask.

Hornets could either decide to just keep Kemba and try to rebuild around him, or they could try to roll the dice with some middling prospects (Ntilikina, Mudiay, etc) and dump some salary in the process. It sounds like a terrible deal trading Kemba for someone like Mudiay plus salary dump, but Pacers traded PG for a bad contract (Oladipo) and a draft bust (Sabonis) and look where they are now.

Instead of hanging on to Kemba and keep trying to fight for the 8th playoff spot, Hornets are better off just rolling dice. Even if the results do not pan out, at least they get to tank for their own pick and dump some salary, and get to start anew with a fresh slate

The Cavs probably should not trade the BKN.pick, but as the deadline gets closer and pressure mounts to improve the roster around LeBron, will they stay strong on their stance.

[316Hornets]

With Batum's increased effectiveness these last few games, I think we have to stick to the plan. See what this team is capable of rest of season. Blowing it up seems good, but I just question what type of value we'd receive right now. If somebody would overpay for Kemba, then I think we should make the play, but if it's an offer along the same lines of Detroit's, then I'm happy with treadmilling and watching this team crash and burn.

The problem with this strategy is that this team will fail on the court, and the organization will miss on the opportunity at tanking for a high pick in a draft that looks to have 8 potentially special talents. Missing the playoffs and picking at the backend of the lottery is the worst possible scenario

Asking me to agree to trade Kemba for scraps so we have an opportunity at drafting a young player with potential is ludicrous.

Kemba is the best player the Hornets have ever had and there's no way I'm trading him without good compensation. Doing the Cleveland deal where we take all their bad contracts and the BKN pick for Kemba would probably be the saddest day in the history of the Hornets. Brooklyn pick isn't even looking like it'll be top 5...and it's way too late now for us to catch up to the tanking teams.

[stinger14]

With Batum's increased effectiveness these last few games, I think we have to stick to the plan. See what this team is capable of rest of season. Blowing it up seems good, but I just question what type of value we'd receive right now. If somebody would overpay for Kemba, then I think we should make the play, but if it's an offer along the same lines of Detroit's, then I'm happy with treadmilling and watching this team crash and burn.

The problem with this strategy is that this team will fail on the court, and the organization will miss on the opportunity at tanking for a high pick in a draft that looks to have 8 potentially special talents. Missing the playoffs and picking at the backend of the lottery is the worst possible scenario

Asking me to agree to trade Kemba for scraps so we have an opportunity at drafting a young player with potential is ludicrous.

Kemba is the best player the Hornets have ever had and there's no way I'm trading him without good compensation. Doing the Cleveland deal where we take all their bad contracts and the BKN pick for Kemba would probably be the saddest day in the history of the Hornets. Brooklyn pick isn't even looking like it'll be top 5...and it's way too late now for us to catch up to the tanking teams.

It is not too late to fall into the top 5....
I am a huge fan of Kemba, and would love to be able to build around him, but the fact is we are in cap hell, and can't get out of cap hell because our players are not desired around the league because of their contracts. When we finally have financial flexibility, Kemba will be in his 30's and nearing the end of his prime years.

Kemba and Marvin For IT, Frye, Shumpert, and BKN pick.....

Send IT to amother team for another pick this year or future pick....Frye expires this year....Shumpert expires afterm next year, cutting a year from the length of Marvs contract...

Our pick top 5
BKN pick top 10
Pick from IT trade (2018 or 2019)
Our 2019 pick would be a top 5 pick after tank
Save 6 million from IT trade
Save 7 million from Frye expiring
Save 10 million next offseason from Shumpert
Dwight expires next offseason (23 million)
That is a total of 46 million by next offseason

46 million and 4 first round picks (2 in top 5) (1 in top 10) in the next 16 months. Nice way to start a rebuild.

[Diop]

This is usually one of my favourite times of the year as I love trades and rumours etc but I just can’t into it this year, I just want it to be over.

[Diop]

What team is giving us 6 million and a pick for a rental of IT?

Some guys over simplify trades involving millions of dollars worth of assets

[316Hornets]

The problem with this strategy is that this team will fail on the court, and the organization will miss on the opportunity at tanking for a high pick in a draft that looks to have 8 potentially special talents. Missing the playoffs and picking at the backend of the lottery is the worst possible scenario

Asking me to agree to trade Kemba for scraps so we have an opportunity at drafting a young player with potential is ludicrous.

Kemba is the best player the Hornets have ever had and there's no way I'm trading him without good compensation. Doing the Cleveland deal where we take all their bad contracts and the BKN pick for Kemba would probably be the saddest day in the history of the Hornets. Brooklyn pick isn't even looking like it'll be top 5...and it's way too late now for us to catch up to the tanking teams.

It is not too late to fall into the top 5....

We are 5 games above the teams slotted to pick #5. That team(Phoenix) is winning at a .340 rate. With 29 games remaining for the Suns at #5, if they continue at their winning rate(doubtful), they would win 10 games more rounded up. That would mean we'd have to finish the season 5-26 to get a top 5 pick. Our schedule is easy and there's no way we'd deliberately tank games. So, yes it is too late to get a top 5 pick.

[stinger14]

Asking me to agree to trade Kemba for scraps so we have an opportunity at drafting a young player with potential is ludicrous.

Kemba is the best player the Hornets have ever had and there's no way I'm trading him without good compensation. Doing the Cleveland deal where we take all their bad contracts and the BKN pick for Kemba would probably be the saddest day in the history of the Hornets. Brooklyn pick isn't even looking like it'll be top 5...and it's way too late now for us to catch up to the tanking teams.

It is not too late to fall into the top 5....

We are 5 games above the teams slotted to pick #5. That team(Phoenix) is winning at a .340 rate. With 29 games remaining for the Suns at #5, if they continue at their winning rate(doubtful), they would win 10 games more rounded up. That would mean we'd have to finish the season 5-26 to get a top 5 pick. Our schedule is easy and there's no way we'd deliberately tank games. So, yes it is too late to get a top 5 pick.

Without Kemba on the floor, MCW starting, Monk and Bacon playing big minutes, it is possible

[stinger14]

What team is giving us 6 million and a pick for a rental of IT?

Some guys over simplify trades involving millions of dollars worth of assets

If not, him expiring would be part of the 46 million, we just wouldn't have that pick. However if a team trades for him, they also have his bird rights. Have to at least try though.


Phoenix as their PG going forward? (Miami pick)
Minnesota? (Aldrich expiring and pick)
Golden State? (Nick Youngs expiring and pick)
Knicks? (McDermott and lotto protted pick)
Utah? (Exum? Are they signing him longterm)

[Bassman]

I am not confident we will be able to make any significant trades.

[Diop]

You would think that exum would be available

[countryboi]

At these point I would be working the phones to try to find a back up point that doesn't suck nuts. If we going all in on the playoffs then we need someone other than MCW


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[catch20two]

At these point I would be working the phones to try to find a back up point that doesn't suck nuts. If we going all in on the playoffs then we need someone other than MCW


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Clifford is starting to like MCW more than MKG so I wouldn’t get my hopes up about us bringing in another backup PG. The coaching staff seem content with what we have.

[countryboi]

At these point I would be working the phones to try to find a back up point that doesn't suck nuts. If we going all in on the playoffs then we need someone other than MCW


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Clifford is starting to like MCW more than MKG so I wouldn’t get my hopes up about us bringing in another backup PG. The coaching staff seem content with what we have.

How is this even possible, i know he can see us go to **** any time MCW is anywhere near the court. MCW has single handedly cost us most than a few games.


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[catch20two]

At these point I would be working the phones to try to find a back up point that doesn't suck nuts. If we going all in on the playoffs then we need someone other than MCW


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Clifford is starting to like MCW more than MKG so I wouldn’t get my hopes up about us bringing in another backup PG. The coaching staff seem content with what we have.

How is this even possible, i know he can see us go to **** any time MCW is anywhere near the court. MCW has single handedly cost us most than a few games.


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Our coach has been diagnosed as being mentally ill. Your guess is as good as mines.

[euphorbus]

At this point I would be working the phones to try to find a backup point...If we are going all in on the playoffs then we need someone other than MCW.

Ty Lawson has played great in China. The regular season ends on February 11. Sign him up and bring him home.

Currently, Carter-Williams is shooting 33% from the field, and .225 from three. It's true that his defensive rating is better than most other regular players, but at 106, that is not saying much.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

What was Cliff's quote? Something like "Gotta have a defensive guy on the floor." Apparently that's either MKG or MCW. I think that Cliff is underestimating MKG's scoring this year and overestimating the impact of MCW being a driving ballhandler.

At this point I'm just depressed about the team, the coach, our FO, & MJ. It just seems like such a huge hopeless mess outside of Kemba ... and to a lesser extent both Lamb & MKG.

[amcoolio]

I feel an Isaiah Thomas to Charlotte trade coming

[VCfor3]

Any chance you guys throw up a Hail Mary this deadline? Some combination of Evans/Wright/Ennis/Chalmers/Green for bad money and a pick or something. Try to clear the books a little to build around Kemba and get the tools for a late playoff push.

[HornetJail]

I feel an Isaiah Thomas to Charlotte trade coming

can you imagine going from MCW to IT as our backup PG? Clifford would lose his mind at the sudden 9 inch height difference in his backup PG.

For the record, I'm not interested in trading any more than Jeremy Lamb or Frank and a couple 2nd rounders for half a year of IT. And I'm certainly not interested in paying him what he's commanding this summer.