Game 55: Suns (18-36) at Lakers (21-31), Tuesday, Feb 6th, 8:30PM MST

KobeBryant24 · Post #61 » by **KobeBryant24** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:47 am

jredsaz wrote:
KobeBryant24 wrote:Atleast this game will help your tank

It will be nice. Would be even better if we still had your pick. Doh!

Yeah that deal was confusing

hollywood6964 · Post #62 » by **hollywood6964** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:47 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
Define 'great'

Maybe not great but he's already trending towards being a better player than TJ.

TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

Yeah, his 20 a game is a bit of fools good. He wouldn't be more than a 6th man on a contending team, but he's still a solid player.

Post #63 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:48 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
Define 'great'

Maybe not great but he's already trending towards being a better player than TJ.

TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

I like TJ but I mostly agree.

Son of Ra · Post #64 » by **Son of Ra** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:48 am

jcsunsfan wrote:KP tore his ACL tonight.

Traded him for Simmons in fantasy just three games ago exactly because I was worried about an injury, whew

Son of Ra · Post #65 » by **Son of Ra** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:49 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Maybe not great but he's already trending towards being a better player than TJ.

TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

I like TJ but I mostly agree.

I'd say at 11/year it's hard to overrate him. At least value for money is fantastic.

jcsunsfan · Post #66 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:50 am

Did the Suns not score in like the last 4 minutes?

PackSuns · Post #67 » by **PackSuns** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:50 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
Define 'great'

Maybe not great but he's already trending towards being a better player than TJ.

TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

Define overrated. I guess all of us are wrong when we vote after the games? Imagine if we had a decent PG. didn't we have a few a couple years ago?

Post #68 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:53 am

PackSuns wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Maybe not great but he's already trending towards being a better player than TJ.

TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

Define overrated. I guess all of us are wrong when we vote after the games? Imagine if we had a decent PG. didn't we have a few a couple years ago?

Son of Ra wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

I like TJ but I mostly agree.

I'd say at 11/year it's hard to overrate him. At least value for money is fantastic.

He's not overrated from a contract value standpoint but from a how good is he really standpoint, I think he does get overrated. Again, he's one of my favourite players on this team to watch but his limitations as at today are fairly evident.

PackSuns · Post #69 » by **PackSuns** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:55 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
PackSuns wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

Define overrated. I guess all of us are wrong when we vote after the games? Imagine if we had a decent PG. didn't we have a few a couple years ago?

Son of Ra wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I like TJ but I mostly agree.

I'd say at 11/year it's hard to overrate him. At least value for money is fantastic.

He's not overrated from a contract value standpoint but from a how good is he really standpoint, I think he does get overrated. Again, he's one of my favourite players on this team to watch but his limitations as at today are fairly evident.

Exactly. His contract is a steal. Unless someone thinks he is the next Lebron or something then he is underrated IMO. I haven't heard those claims on this board.

PackSuns · Post #70 » by **PackSuns** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:59 am

Also, by our Nashty/Cactus standings he is our most consistent player this year and last. He doesn't kill us if he has an off game. For his usage he currently has -6 in the Cactus vote. Pretty amazing really. Unless none of us know how to assess talent in these games we watch.

Mr Puddles · Post #71 » by **Mr Puddles** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:00 am

KobeBryant24 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
KobeBryant24 wrote:Atleast this game will help your tank

It will be nice. Would be even better if we still had your pick. Doh!

Yeah that deal was confusing

Haha, "confusing" is probably the nicest way trading an unprotected pick for the privilege of signing Brandon knight to a big contract has been referred in this neck of the RealGM woods.

Some other words and phrases that have been used by Suns fans in evaluating this deal have been $%#$%$@#!!!, %^*@#^*@#^@&, ?!??!?!?!?, :banghead:

, and ********!

Post #72 » by **ATTL** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:05 am

KobeBryant24 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
KobeBryant24 wrote:Atleast this game will help your tank

It will be nice. Would be even better if we still had your pick. Doh!

Yeah that deal was confusing

The only thing preventing me from drinking myself out of a job is the fact that the Lakers aren't bottom 3 this year.

hollywood6964 · Post #73 » by **hollywood6964** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:13 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
PackSuns wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
TJ is overrated massively on here, so thats not saying much.

Define overrated. I guess all of us are wrong when we vote after the games? Imagine if we had a decent PG. didn't we have a few a couple years ago?

Son of Ra wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I like TJ but I mostly agree.

I'd say at 11/year it's hard to overrate him. At least value for money is fantastic.

He's not overrated from a contract value standpoint but from a how good is he really standpoint, I think he does get overrated. Again, he's one of my favourite players on this team to watch but his limitations as at today are fairly evident.

Yeah, just like any board, a lot of homers that overrate, don't want to hear a bad word about the team, n want to win in a clear tank job season. Can't expect anymore.

DaleyBlind · Post #74 » by **DaleyBlind** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:15 am

When people list TJ as a building block going forward, he is hugely overrated. All he does is score at average efficiency (please dont give FG%), terrible defender and has still not shown much improvement of being a playmaker. He is a 6th man.

DaleyBlind · Post #75 » by **DaleyBlind** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:16 am

PackSuns wrote:Also, by our Nashty/Cactus standings he is our most consistent player this year and last. He doesn't kill us if he has an off game. For his usage he currently has -6 in the Cactus vote. Pretty amazing really. Unless none of us know how to assess talent in these games we watch.

Thats more to do with out **** talent :lol:

TJ is still the 2nd best player on the team right now

Post #76 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:19 am

Also Nashty/Cactus is probably the most subjective 'stat', if you can even call it that. Booker might have more impact on the floor but putting up 25 is not as Nashty worth as say JJ/Bender putting up 15/7.

hollywood6964 · Post #77 » by **hollywood6964** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:24 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
PackSuns wrote:Also, by our Nashty/Cactus standings he is our most consistent player this year and last. He doesn't kill us if he has an off game. For his usage he currently has -6 in the Cactus vote. Pretty amazing really. Unless none of us know how to assess talent in these games we watch.

Thats more to do with out **** talent TJ is still the 2nd best player on the team right now

Exactly.

Trying to be sneaky implying that if we think he's overrated around here that EVERYONE doesn't know how to evaluate games. Also typical.

PackSuns · Post #78 » by **PackSuns** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:28 am

hollywood6964 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
PackSuns wrote:Also, by our Nashty/Cactus standings he is our most consistent player this year and last. He doesn't kill us if he has an off game. For his usage he currently has -6 in the Cactus vote. Pretty amazing really. Unless none of us know how to assess talent in these games we watch.

Thats more to do with out **** talent TJ is still the 2nd best player on the team right now

Exactly.

Trying to be sneaky implying that if we think he's overrated around here that EVERYONE doesn't know how to evaluate games. Also typical.

Just saying that maybe you don't know how to evaluate games. TJ is the last guy we should be worried about on this team. Great contract. We have some glaring holes in our roster.

hollywood6964 · Post #79 » by **hollywood6964** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:31 am

PackSuns wrote:
hollywood6964 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
Thats more to do with out **** talent TJ is still the 2nd best player on the team right now

Exactly.

Trying to be sneaky implying that if we think he's overrated around here that EVERYONE doesn't know how to evaluate games. Also typical.

Just saying that maybe you don't know how to evaluate games. TJ is the last guy we should be worried about on this team. Great contract. We have some glaring holes in our roster.

Logical fallacy. We're talking about overrating Warren, which I've seen all too often around here.

PackSuns · Post #80 » by **PackSuns** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:34 am

hollywood6964 wrote:
PackSuns wrote:
hollywood6964 wrote:Exactly.

Trying to be sneaky implying that if we think he's overrated around here that EVERYONE doesn't know how to evaluate games. Also typical.

Just saying that maybe you don't know how to evaluate games. TJ is the last guy we should be worried about on this team. Great contract. We have some glaring holes in our roster.

Logical fallacy. We're talking about overrating Warren, which I've seen all too often around here.

Logical fallacy? I took philosophy 101 as well. It's all good. I'm a homer for sure. I will leave it at that.