The ROTY/Rookie Discussion Thread, Part III

Post #881 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:30 am

Finished with 13,6,6,4,3

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LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #882 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:42 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:Finished with 13,6,6,4,3

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by skills and overall impact among rookies, Simmons is the greatest

Tigersrule · Post #883 » by **Tigersrule** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:33 am

Donovan Mitchell is the ROTY imo...

vossy_3 · Post #884 » by **vossy_3** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:39 am

Tigersrule wrote:Donovan Mitchell is the ROTY imo...

I’m guessing your joking....

Mitchell is a complete chucker.

His efficiency of late has been awful.

draftnightsuit · Post #885 » by **draftnightsuit** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:39 am

Donovan Mitchell 9/28

I mean he’s good and all, but I wonder what some other rookies would look like if they had that kind of green light.

babyjax13 · Post #886 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 am

vossy_3 wrote:
Tigersrule wrote:Donovan Mitchell is the ROTY imo...

I’m guessing your joking....

Mitchell is a complete chucker.

His efficiency of late has been awful.

He's also been playing with the flu and Favors-Gobert plug the middle. Really wouldn't call him a chucker and his percentages this season don't support that hypothesis, either.

Scatocephalus · Post #887 » by **Scatocephalus** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 am

put the ball in the rook's hand and say win the game, I take Spida every time.

sixerhp3 · Post #888 » by **sixerhp3** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:44 am

Do people not realize Ben Simmons is already an elite defender?? Mitchell is amazing but let's be real here

mtron929 · Post #889 » by **mtron929** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:46 am

Mitchell's number is strikingly similar to Monta Elli's career average numbers. Ben Simmons is putting up numbers comparable to some of Jason Kidd's best season. Not close.

Scatocephalus · Post #890 » by **Scatocephalus** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:47 am

sixerhp3 wrote:Do people not realize Ben Simmons is already an elite defender?? Mitchell is amazing but let's be real here

indeed

dautjazz · Post #891 » by **dautjazz** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:51 am

vossy_3 wrote:
Tigersrule wrote:Donovan Mitchell is the ROTY imo...

I’m guessing your joking....

Mitchell is a complete chucker.

His efficiency of late has been awful.

He played 37mins and 38mins on these back to backs vs Portland and the Spurs. I know the Spurs were depleated, but they were gritty. Anyways, he certainly struggled early, but he was clutch down the stretch. Watch the games..

babyjax13 · Post #892 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:53 am

mtron929 wrote:Mitchell's number is strikingly similar to Monta Elli's career average numbers. Ben Simmons is putting up numbers comparable to some of Jason Kidd's best season. Not close.

Ellis never had a season in his career shooting as well from 3 point range as Mitchell, and wasn't nearly as dynamic. He had some high scoring seasons where he shot high percentages, but really only his peak (2007-08) was about as efficient as Mitchell is now. Mitchell also gets his offense completely differently. Fine to say Simmons is a better rookie (he is) but pretty poor comp for Mitchell.

Spens1 · Post #893 » by **Spens1** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:55 am

Wait Payton has 22 points in 16 minutes and has only missed 1 shot.

Poor Orlando never saw that kind of production out of him....

Alex DeLarge · Post #894 » by **Alex DeLarge** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:58 am

The people dissing Mitchell must be looking at boxscores. He is the only shot creator on the Jazz and is consistency leading them to victories. You're not chucking if the offense depends on you creating opportunities. Favours and Gobert are getting baskets off of Mitchell misses after he attracts the defender and puts up the floater. That's as good as an assist.

Get out of here with your Monta Ellis comps. This kid is Dame Lillard with better defense. There's not many players in the L who you'd rather give the ball to in the clutch.

Post #895 » by **jazzfan1971** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:03 am

I was sure glad we won tonight. Would have been some finger pointing otherwise. Still, Mitchell was terrific to close the game. Gotta give him that.

Jazz_Man_86 · Post #896 » by **Jazz_Man_86** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:32 am

Mitch is 8-29 and he was awesome carring the teamince again for the victory.

michaelm · Post #897 » by **michaelm** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:36 am

If Mitchell and Utah are winning games, which they seem to be doing, to the tune of 10 in a row most recently, what does it matter how his shooting percentage looks on the box score?, and particularly in games without Rubio?.

mediocrityrules · Post #898 » by **mediocrityrules** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:41 am

Alex DeLarge wrote:The people dissing Mitchell must be looking at boxscores. He is the only shot creator on the Jazz and is consistency leading them to victories. You're not chucking if the offense depends on you creating opportunities. Favours and Gobert are getting baskets off of Mitchell misses after he attracts the defender and puts up the floater. That's as good as an assist.

Get out of here with your Monta Ellis comps. This kid is Dame Lillard with better defense. There's not many players in the L who you'd rather give the ball to in the clutch.

I take this as an insult against my man and one of the most underrated players going around, Joe Ingles!

stitches · Post #899 » by **stitches** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:42 am

Pharmcat wrote:ntlinika looking like a bust, failed pick at #8 over DSjR and Mitchell

Don't give up on him. Way too early.

Nate505 · Post #900 » by **Nate505** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:45 am

Mitchell played like crap and still got 25, including a critical basket at the end of the game.

Wish he could have sank both those FTs at the end though, as Ginobli's miracle heave almost went in.

Who wins? (May select 2 options.)