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Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

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Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1241 » by macd-gm » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:18 pm

Bob8 wrote:http://insider2text.xyz/articles/ed0284740d8774cd


I don't understand the premise of the article. Ayton is pretty much the consensus #1
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Post#1242 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:22 pm

macd-gm wrote:I don't understand the premise of the article. Ayton is pretty much the consensus #1


Pretty sure he was just baiting us into talking about the Foreign Kid again.

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Post#1243 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:43 pm

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macd-gm wrote:I don't understand the premise of the article. Ayton is pretty much the consensus #1


Pretty sure he was just baiting us into talking about the Foreign Kid again.

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I pasted you the article about Ayton. Imho not the bad one. And I’m bad boy? Yesterday you pasted an article above Ayton and everything was fine? Am I missing something here?
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Post#1244 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:04 pm

macd-gm wrote:
Bob8 wrote:http://insider2text.xyz/articles/ed0284740d8774cd


I don't understand the premise of the article. Ayton is pretty much the consensus #1


I didn’t write the article, but seems like an article about Ayton.

Consensus #1 in group of 3 users in this thread? ;)
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Post#1245 » by thr3ep01nte4 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:06 pm

The Ayton article by ESPN basically says his problems mainly stem from between the ears. He wants to be a power forward alongside another big man, and doesn't want to give efforts on defense. Well, I hate to say this, but he seems to be a perfect fit for the Kings (on/off the court).
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Post#1246 » by Spud2nique » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:08 pm

thr3ep01nte4 wrote:The Ayton article by ESPN basically says his problems mainly stem from between the ears. He wants to be a power forward alongside another big man, and doesn't want to give efforts on defense. Well, I hate to say this, but he seems to be a perfect fit for the Kings (on/off the court).




They already have one of those..his name is WCS.
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Post#1247 » by macd-gm » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:08 pm

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macd-gm wrote:
Bob8 wrote:http://insider2text.xyz/articles/ed0284740d8774cd


I don't understand the premise of the article. Ayton is pretty much the consensus #1


I didn’t write the article, but seems like an article about Ayton.

Consensus #1 in group of 3 users in this thread? ;)


I went and checked about 6 mocks and 4 had Ayton as #1. Just making sure i'm not crazy. The title makes it sound like he's being overlooked but the article had good info in it. Good news for you, Luka was #1 in the other 2. Earlier in the season there was a lot of Bagley but hopefully people have wised up when they notice Duke is good without him.
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Post#1248 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:18 pm

macd-gm wrote:I went and checked about 6 mocks and 4 had Ayton as #1. Just making sure i'm not crazy. The title makes it sound like he's being overlooked but the article had good info in it. Good news for you, Luka was #1 in the other 2. Earlier in the season there was a lot of Bagley but hopefully people have wised up when they notice Duke is good without him.



I kinda feel like, at this point, we're over-analyzing these kids. (I know I am.)

But, I have heard myriad concerns regarding Ayton's defensive aptitude.

Any thoughts about trading down from #1 or #2 in this draft? If we were to be so lucky...
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Post#1249 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:31 pm

macd-gm wrote:
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macd-gm wrote:
I don't understand the premise of the article. Ayton is pretty much the consensus #1


I didn’t write the article, but seems like an article about Ayton.

Consensus #1 in group of 3 users in this thread? ;)


I went and checked about 6 mocks and 4 had Ayton as #1. Just making sure i'm not crazy. The title makes it sound like he's being overlooked but the article had good info in it. Good news for you, Luka was #1 in the other 2. Earlier in the season there was a lot of Bagley but hopefully people have wised up when they notice Duke is good without him.


If you ask me for Doncic would be better if he goes #4 in a team and coach, who will use him properly. Less pressure and better development.
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Post#1250 » by thr3ep01nte4 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:37 pm

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thr3ep01nte4 wrote:The Ayton article by ESPN basically says his problems mainly stem from between the ears. He wants to be a power forward alongside another big man, and doesn't want to give efforts on defense. Well, I hate to say this, but he seems to be a perfect fit for the Kings (on/off the court).




They already have one of those..his name is WCS.

Exactly, Vlade would love to pair those two together.
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Post#1251 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:49 pm

Bob8 wrote:If you ask me for Doncic would be better if he goes #4 in a team and coach, who will use him properly. Less pressure and better development.



On this...we actually agree.

The hype surrounding this kid is too much. The expectations are going to be obscenely high.
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Post#1252 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:06 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Bob8 wrote:If you ask me for Doncic would be better if he goes #4 in a team and coach, who will use him properly. Less pressure and better development.



On this...we actually agree.

The hype surrounding this kid is too much. The expectations are going to be obscenely high.


Expectations won’t be that much of a problem. Expectations in Real are something hard to understand. They played around 90 games and every game they don’t win, press is questioning why, how...Fans expecting to win it all. Real is the biggest sport institution in the world. Only wins counts. Spanish league, Copa del Rey and Euroleague. Some matches in Serbia, Greece, Israel and Turkey are like war zones. No prospects is even near experience that Doncic has. But of course is at beginning better to have relative peace than carrying burden of #1 pick. Much more important is to be drafted in right team. This can be a big difference.
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Post#1253 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:10 pm

Expectations won’t be a problem. Expectations in Real are something hard to understand.

Real is the biggest sport institution in the world. Only wins counts.


Can't believe I'm getting dragged back in on this kid...

One concern that's come up lately for Bagley and Doncic.

The team's they play on now are massively more talented (relative to the competition they face) than anything we offer.

Luka's the best player, thriving on the best team. What happens when he's the best player on the worst team?

We have a really good coach. That's kind of it.
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Post#1254 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:14 pm

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Expectations won’t be a problem. Expectations in Real are something hard to understand.

Real is the biggest sport institution in the world. Only wins counts.


Can't believe I'm getting dragged back in on this kid...

One concern that's come up lately for Bagley and Doncic.

The team's they play on now are massively more talented (relative to the competition they face) than anything we offer.

Luka's the best player, thriving on the best team. What happens when he's the best player on the worst team?

We have a really good coach. That's kind of it.


Luka has answered that already. 3 starters and backup C out long term. One of them last years Euroleague MVP, with torn Acl before season. And Real still very good. Luka is at the moment only star there. All defenses concentrate on him.

I agree is enough about Luka.
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Post#1255 » by Spud2nique » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:03 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
Expectations won’t be a problem. Expectations in Real are something hard to understand.

Real is the biggest sport institution in the world. Only wins counts.


Can't believe I'm getting dragged back in on this kid...

One concern that's come up lately for Bagley and Doncic.

The team's they play on now are massively more talented (relative to the competition they face) than anything we offer.

Luka's the best player, thriving on the best team. What happens when he's the best player on the worst team?

We have a really good coach. That's kind of it.


Luka has answered that already. 3 starters and backup C out long term. One of them last years Euroleague MVP, with torn Acl before season. And Real still very good. Luka is at the moment only star there. All defenses concentrate on him.

I agree is enough about Luka.



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Post#1256 » by Spud2nique » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:05 pm

That is if ur really done about Luka Bob? I am all in on the Luka train but dang ..
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Post#1257 » by kg01 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:37 pm

Spud2nique wrote:That is if ur really done about Luka Bob? I am all in on the Luka train but dang ..


If you believe that, I got some beachfront property in Kansas for sale. Since it's you, you can get it for cheap. Deal?
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Post#1258 » by Spud2nique » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:15 pm

kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:That is if ur really done about Luka Bob? I am all in on the Luka train but dang ..


If you believe that, I got some beachfront property in Kansas for sale. Since it's you, you can get it for cheap. Deal?



Well I am gullible so...sure! :P
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Post#1259 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:11 am

D Ayton is an elite inside scorer. Possibly, the most elite inside scorer from this draft:

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At 7'1" and 250 pounds with a 7'5 ½ wingspan, Ayton's mix of size, strength, length and athleticism is tough to match among NBA centers. The same holds true for his skill set once it's fully developed.

Ayton has already evolved into both an advanced post scorer and threatening shooter from every level. He's averaging 19.7 points and has hit 10 three-pointers, 44.4 percent of his medium jumpers and 52.4 percent of his short jumpers.

Atlanta ranks last in the league in points out of the post, per NBA.com, and Ayton averages 1.08 points per possession on post-ups, ranking in the 92nd percentile, per Synergy Sports.

Ayton is an athletic, physical presence inside, one who's capable of creating his own shot from the elbows and short corners and also stepping out and knocking down jumpers (42.9 percent on jump shots, 10 made threes). He has the chance to be a dominant offensive player for a team that doesn't have any.
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Post#1260 » by thr3ep01nte4 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 am

JZ Mazlish from the Stepien:

Tier One: Doncic
Tier Two: Young
Tier Three: JJJ, Porter, Ayton, Bagley
Tier Four: Mikal, Jontay, Wendell, Bamba, Miles

https://www.almightyballer.com/the-stepien-nba-draft-podcast-the-nba-talent-curve-2018-draft-prospects-with-jz-mazlish/

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