UcanUwill wrote:Evan Turner is easily better than Shved. And how is Shved more athletic, dont make me laugh, Turner is bigger, much stronger, way better explosiveness, and guy actually has high IQ and is NBA caliber playmaker. Shved is just a chucker who gets away with it because he is more talented than your Euroleague scrub. At NBA level hes got nothing. Turner would be Euroleague savant who would flat out dominate lesser athletes inside. I dont see the similarity at all.
I agree that his lack of shooting is a flaw, but he is better than McCalleb or Calathes. He would be much bigger Calathes in the Euroleague, that what he would be. Shved is a joke of the comparison.
And he would not look less athletic in Europe, Alan Anderson was a damn good athlete in Euroleague, and he is less athletic in the NBA than Turner.
See, these kinds of posts make me seriously doubt you actually watch EuroLeague. Evan Turner is probably a top 10 worst example you could ever come up with for a guy going from NBA to EuroLeague. He would be a very high bust risk for any EuroLeague team that signed him.
Doncic is way better than Joe Ingles. He's way better than Hedo, way, way better than Hedo. But at least I can see some reasoning in how you came to those comparisons. Evan Turner...no. Doncic is so much better it's an outright gigantic insult.
And Shved is definitely better than Turner.
Shved is a better passer, better court vision, better ball handler, much better shooter, better scorer, better one to one player, much more athletic....
What does Turner have on Shved? He's got better shot selection and he's a better team player. That's it. On an individual level, Shved is not only better at everything, he's actually a hell of a lot better at everything.
I know you say you watch EuroLeague, but I just have to doubt it.
Can we at least make fair and accurate comparisons here?
Hedo
Ingles
Turner
Why are we even discussing players like these? Doncic is so superior to all three of them. It just makes the thread seem outright ridiculous. Let's please make comparisons that are at least somewhat in the same ballpark, in terms of the level of the players.
About EuroLeague...McCalebb and Calathes are/were not even good EuroLeague players. You act like they are stars or something. McCalebb could never do anything but attack in the open court, and Calathes can do nothing but dominate a ball for 40 minutes.
At their peaks, we are talking top 15 EuroLeague point guards. Something people that closely watch EuroLeague would know. Something people that don't watch EuroLeague would just casually throw their names out as "stars". Just like back in the day no matter what people claimed Parker and Langdon were the best players Europe ever saw. It's just NBA only fans talking points, and nothing anyone that closely watch the league would actually believe.
Alan Anderson..he's one of the lowest IQ players that ever set foot on a EuroLeague court. He's a skilled one on one player, and has a natural scoring ability. Kudos to him for being a rotation player in NBA for years. But he's one of the biggest detriments of any player to whatever team he is on that there is. Every team is worse for having him. We don't even get examples of players that were even good in EuroLeague in this thread, being mentioned all these average kinds of players, in comparison to Doncic. It's gotten really tiresome.
If people talked about American players the same way, and only compared average players to the best American players, saying "LeBron in Europe would be Kostas Papanikoloau at best", the posters saying that would get banned I am sure. But doing the same here, "Doncic is like Turner or Ingles or Hedo" - and it's somehow objective posting? The double standards NBA fans put to any European that plays in Europe is truly unbelievable.
